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    Quote Originally Posted by RoguePlant View Post
    Does anybody know what P.I.G actually stands for....?
    We just say that in front of small kids so they don't understand what we're talking about. PIGS are pigs !!

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    Staff Report from the Straight Dope Science Advisory Board Why are the police called cops, pigs, or the fuzz?

    May 31, 2005
    Dear Straight Dope:
    Could you tell me more about the words fuzz, pigs, and cops and how they pertain to police?
    — Mike Paproski
    Etymology is rarely an exact science. Words or phrases spring up, become popular, and eventually may find their way into print. The process takes time, and it's usually difficult or impossible to track backwards to discover where a particular word or phrase arose.
    Let's start with cop. Cop the noun is almost certainly a shortening of copper, which in turn derives from cop the verb. The London police were called bobbies, after Sir Robert Peel who advocated the creation of the Metropolitan Police Force in 1828. Copper as slang for policeman is first found in print in 1846, according to the Oxford English Dictionary. The most likely explanation is that it comes from the verb "to cop" meaning to seize, capture, or snatch, dating from just over a century earlier (1704).
    The derivation of the verb is unclear. Most authorities trace it to the French caper and before that to the Latin capere, to seize, take. Other English words derived from capere include capture. Thus, a copper is one who seizes. An alternative theory is that to cop comes from the Dutch kapen, meaning to take or to steal.
    The word "cop" has other meanings as well, all connected to "catch" or "snatch":

    • To "cop out" meaning to withdraw or escape, or to evade responsibility
    • To "cop it" meaning to be punished or get caught
    • To "cop a plea" is to try to catch a lesser punishment by admitting to a lesser crime
    • "A fair cop" means to be caught in the act.

    As with many words, there are several stories floating around positing various origins, almost certainly false. The notion that cop is an acronym for "Constable On Patrol" is nonsense. Similarly, the word did not arise because police uniforms in New York (or London or wherever) had copper buttons, copper badges, or anything of the sort.
    The term cop has had derogatory implications. J. Edgar Hoover, the longtime head of the FBI, disliked being called "top cop."
    The origin of "fuzz" is uncertain. The expression arose in America in the late 1920s and early 1930s, probably in the criminal underworld. It never quite replaced cop.
    Evan Morris, The Word Detective, says:
    Where in the world are you hearing people refer to the police as "fuzz"? . . . I have never heard a real person use it, unless you want to count Jack Webb on the old "Dragnet." When I was growing up in the 1960s, we called police officers many things, but mostly we just called them "cops" and we never, ever, called them "the fuzz." As a matter of fact, anybody calling the cops "the fuzz" would have been instantly suspected of being a cop. It would have been a faux pas right up there with ironing your blue jeans.
    There are several theories about the origin of "fuzz":

    • American Tramp and Underworld Slang, published in 1931, suggests that "fuzz" was derived from "fuss," meaning that the cops were "fussy" over trifles.
    • A mispronunciation or mishearing of the warning "Feds!" (Federal agents). This seems unlikely.
    • Etymologist Eric Partridge wonders if "fuzz" might have come from the beards of early police officers. This also seems improbable.

    The term is not related to Fuzzy Wuzzy who wuz a bear. (You didn't ask, but the term "bear" for police refers to the Smokey the Bear hat commonly worn by state troopers.)
    Evan Morris suggests the word "arose as a term of contempt for police based on the use of 'fuzz' or 'fuzzy' in other items of derogatory criminal slang of the period. To be 'fuzzy' was to be unmanly, incompetent and soft. How better to insult the police, after all, than to mock them as ineffectual?" That explanation seems as good as any, and better than most.
    If you thought the term pig arose in the 1960s, you're in for a surprise. The OED cites an 1811 reference to a "pig" as a Bow Street Runner--the early police force, named after the location of their headquarters, before Sir Robert Peel and the Metropolitan Police Force (see above.) Before that, the term "pig" had been used as early as the mid-1500s to refer to a person who is heartily disliked.
    The usage was probably confined to the criminal classes until the 1960s, when it was taken up by protestors. False explanations for the term involve the gas masks worn by the riot police in that era, or the pigs in charge of George Orwell's Animal Farm.
    While police officers usually don't mind being called "cops," they aren't usually fond of the term "pig." A policeman's lot is not an 'appy one.
    By the way, the French call their police gendarmes, which came from gens d'arme (people with weaponry) which ranked just below knight in medieval armies--the English equivalent would be "esquire," perhaps. No, somehow I don't think calling the police "squires" will catch on here.
    — Dex

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    Quote Originally Posted by F A B View Post
    Staff Report from the Straight Dope Science Advisory Board Why are the police called cops, pigs, or the fuzz?

    May 31, 2005
    Dear Straight Dope:
    Could you tell me more about the words fuzz, pigs, and cops and how they pertain to police?
    — Mike Paproski
    Etymology is rarely an exact science. Words or phrases spring up, become popular, and eventually may find their way into print. The process takes time, and it's usually difficult or impossible to track backwards to discover where a particular word or phrase arose.
    Let's start with cop. Cop the noun is almost certainly a shortening of copper, which in turn derives from cop the verb. The London police were called bobbies, after Sir Robert Peel who advocated the creation of the Metropolitan Police Force in 1828. Copper as slang for policeman is first found in print in 1846, according to the Oxford English Dictionary. The most likely explanation is that it comes from the verb "to cop" meaning to seize, capture, or snatch, dating from just over a century earlier (1704).
    The derivation of the verb is unclear. Most authorities trace it to the French caper and before that to the Latin capere, to seize, take. Other English words derived from capere include capture. Thus, a copper is one who seizes. An alternative theory is that to cop comes from the Dutch kapen, meaning to take or to steal.
    The word "cop" has other meanings as well, all connected to "catch" or "snatch":

    • To "cop out" meaning to withdraw or escape, or to evade responsibility
    • To "cop it" meaning to be punished or get caught
    • To "cop a plea" is to try to catch a lesser punishment by admitting to a lesser crime
    • "A fair cop" means to be caught in the act.

    As with many words, there are several stories floating around positing various origins, almost certainly false. The notion that cop is an acronym for "Constable On Patrol" is nonsense. Similarly, the word did not arise because police uniforms in New York (or London or wherever) had copper buttons, copper badges, or anything of the sort.
    The term cop has had derogatory implications. J. Edgar Hoover, the longtime head of the FBI, disliked being called "top cop."
    The origin of "fuzz" is uncertain. The expression arose in America in the late 1920s and early 1930s, probably in the criminal underworld. It never quite replaced cop.
    Evan Morris, The Word Detective, says:
    Where in the world are you hearing people refer to the police as "fuzz"? . . . I have never heard a real person use it, unless you want to count Jack Webb on the old "Dragnet." When I was growing up in the 1960s, we called police officers many things, but mostly we just called them "cops" and we never, ever, called them "the fuzz." As a matter of fact, anybody calling the cops "the fuzz" would have been instantly suspected of being a cop. It would have been a faux pas right up there with ironing your blue jeans.
    There are several theories about the origin of "fuzz":

    • American Tramp and Underworld Slang, published in 1931, suggests that "fuzz" was derived from "fuss," meaning that the cops were "fussy" over trifles.
    • A mispronunciation or mishearing of the warning "Feds!" (Federal agents). This seems unlikely.
    • Etymologist Eric Partridge wonders if "fuzz" might have come from the beards of early police officers. This also seems improbable.

    The term is not related to Fuzzy Wuzzy who wuz a bear. (You didn't ask, but the term "bear" for police refers to the Smokey the Bear hat commonly worn by state troopers.)
    Evan Morris suggests the word "arose as a term of contempt for police based on the use of 'fuzz' or 'fuzzy' in other items of derogatory criminal slang of the period. To be 'fuzzy' was to be unmanly, incompetent and soft. How better to insult the police, after all, than to mock them as ineffectual?" That explanation seems as good as any, and better than most.
    If you thought the term pig arose in the 1960s, you're in for a surprise. The OED cites an 1811 reference to a "pig" as a Bow Street Runner--the early police force, named after the location of their headquarters, before Sir Robert Peel and the Metropolitan Police Force (see above.) Before that, the term "pig" had been used as early as the mid-1500s to refer to a person who is heartily disliked.
    The usage was probably confined to the criminal classes until the 1960s, when it was taken up by protestors. False explanations for the term involve the gas masks worn by the riot police in that era, or the pigs in charge of George Orwell's Animal Farm.
    While police officers usually don't mind being called "cops," they aren't usually fond of the term "pig." A policeman's lot is not an 'appy one.
    By the way, the French call their police gendarmes, which came from gens d'arme (people with weaponry) which ranked just below knight in medieval armies--the English equivalent would be "esquire," perhaps. No, somehow I don't think calling the police "squires" will catch on here.
    — Dex
    Damn, you pulled all that information up quick.......

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    Quote Originally Posted by RoguePlant View Post
    Damn, you pulled all that information up quick.......
    funny how in turkey they call cops asphalt cowboys cuz they are lawless cops
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    I actually talked to an old hippy who explained it perfectly in three simple words- Performing Injustices Globally

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    Quote Originally Posted by RoguePlant View Post
    I actually talked to an old hippy who explained it perfectly in three simple words- Performing Injustices Globally
    that would apply also
    sounds like he was a wise old hippy

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    Quote Originally Posted by Growman3001 View Post
    I haver to be honest, my auntie is a cop and well retired now, but she saved a lot of children's lives. Yes cops might not do a lot of "physical saving" of lives, but its the preventative measures that save more lives, you just dont hear about it in the news, its not appealing enough. Fuck the cops that get a jimmy off of busting pot farmers. There are blacks and there are niggers and on that same token there are cops and there are pigs...
    Wtf?? Did anybody see this? Why tf do they allow racist pigs on this site?

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    Hey now, don't go calling people pigs. lol
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    Im not a cop, but I am pursuing a future career with the LAPD.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaendar View Post
    Wtf?? Did anybody see this? Why tf do they allow racist pigs on this site?
    What do you expect from this site?

    I applaud you on your choice to be open about wanting to be a cop. Fuck the people who are too immature to understand we need the police. I guess some people here should hate the firefighters too. You may burn your shit down but don't call. You see they bust people too. Have a heart attack or have a fire and see if they won't narc you off for a grow. Jesus people are stupid.

    FYI, I was in law enforcement in the military. Not an MP but better.

    People who can't see the good thru the bad don't deserve the argument. I think, they take pride in their ignorance.

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