Sick forum! Fuzzy you got it right with how these guys are like setting up a nice grow! It is a lot of work to make things just right for them but totally worth the effort. I think my best purchase was the automatic mister, they drink sooo much! I always thought the same thing that they are like flowering 12/12. my whole bedroom lights up at 9 with the cham cages and HPS from my closet haha, its a nice alarm clock.