The Ruiners' Hypothetical Questions to 19 Supporters

Since there is so much debate over the 5x5 and cultivation in general, and the (possible) overlap between that part of the bill and the CUA/MMP, if 19 passes, will people still be able to get doctors rec's and, by what everyone is saying, cultivate however much they want, without restrictions in regards to growing space? Therefore, in order to be part of the action in commerce, ordinary people will simply need to get a doctors rec to grow, and distribute as much as they possibly can to dispensaries and other patients, and quite possibly to the "black market" ? What would be the point of passing all new legislation that can be so easily cast aside? What good does 19 do the state, if all it takes to avoid what will more than likely be thousands of dollars in taxes annually is a $35 doctors rec? Wouldn't that just be, as supporters of the bill have put it "more of the same"? Also, how could the commercial interests backing 19 benefit from making it legal for the entire 21 and over population of the state to possess cannabis if they cant possibly compete with a market that has way more advantages in regards to abundant supply and more relaxed regulations? On the flip side of this coin, what will be the motivation for the "casual smoker" to patronize the commercial establishments, with their elevated overhead and strict regulatory scrutiny which will more than likely spell higher prices, versus just getting the doctors rec and going medical?

It just doesnt make sense to me that people with millions riding on the passage and eventual commercial sales of MJ to leave a less regulated and more than likely less expensive competitor. It doesnt make sense to make things harder on yourself, and to pay millions of dollars to do it. It just doesn't make sense for 19 to leave 215 intact if EVERYTHING that is being SAID about 215 being left intact is true.

I would really appreciate someone who fancies themselves as well-versed in 19 to respond.

Bumping for answers....

Im with you...I think this is an attempt to put more restrictions and penalties on marijuana in California to raise incarceration rates. they will eliminate compitition untill the whole industry in controlled by a couple big companies and they will tax you at unreasonable levels.

Originally Posted by beardo

Im with you...I think this is an attempt to put more restrictions and penalties on marijuana in California to raise incarceration rates. they will eliminate compitition untill the whole industry in controlled by a couple big companies and they will tax you at unreasonable levels.

yeah fuck 19

This should be interesting to watch....

Originally Posted by beardo

I think this is an attempt to put more restrictions and penalties on marijuana in California to raise incarceration rates.

That's just fucking stupid.

This shit is important.

Save your nutball horseshit for one of your own worthless threads. Please.

Originally Posted by d.s.m.

That's just fucking stupid.

This shit is important.

Save your nutball horseshit for one of your own worthless threads. Please.

personal attacks and insults will get this shut down.

you were first.

why would most people even bother with going through the medical process if they could just go to the 7/11 for a dime bag and doritos? but you got too many questions. most people want convenience. that might answer some of your questions.

Originally Posted by d.s.m.

That's just fucking stupid.

This shit is important.

Save your nutball horseshit for one of your own worthless threads. Please.

Did i mention prop 19 will also raise unemployment rates poverty rates homelessness and outsource more U.S. jobs

Originally Posted by blazin256

why would most people even bother with going through the medical process if they could just go to the 7/11 for a dime bag and doritos? but you got too many questions. most people want convenience. that might answer some of your questions.

This is being sold as the vote to "legalize marijuana' in california but that is not all it says. If it just stated " marijuana is not prohibited in california for those 18 and older' I would be very happy. even if it was for 21 and over even if they wanted to subject it to a standard 10% tax...if it were that simple I would be so happy. You or I could have written a great prop...but the people who wrote it and the people putting up the money behind this have other agendas. You should be able to buy marijuana at 7-11 I agree. I just think this is a trick