Thread: Legal Alternative gets LOTS of PUBLICITY

Originally Posted by worm5376

Lol I thought this might be a sensetive subject for you just for the simple fact of hpw he word it made me think he knew nothing about the chemicals he's speaking of,

That is my issue.

I mean I understand (and agree to an extent) with the synthetic untested shit doesn't need to be tested on people (after all we have no idea what the long term effects will be in reality).. but when you just talk our of your ass that is a whole nother story.

And I am not trying to start an argument, I respect your opinion. I think that many of these smoke blends are potentially dangerous as none that I have seen list exactly which chemical(s) are inside (which as I am sure people have seen, has caused anxiety problems in a number of people).

I meant to hit on that subject in one of the RC threads..

Originally Posted by shepj

Dude.. some people have jobs other than fast food that require random drug tests. Think of anyone in the military.

I totally understand that. And am directly impacted by that in more than one circumstance.

Originally Posted by shepj

A fake drug? I will bet you do not know jack shit about these "fake drugs" do you?

Did you know that the same aminoalkylindole that is in most of the common smoke blends, is being tested as a transdermal analgesic for future prescription use?

I know more about it than i care to discuss. I'm not here to talk chemistry and physiology. That has nothing to do with the fact that people are smoking a substance that is more unknown than the substance its trying to impersonate.

Originally Posted by shepj

You think the Chinese are the only chemists in the world? That is a little racist...

K2 is made in china. The reason why i mentioned them in the first place.

Originally Posted by shepj

It is not "fake pot"... nor is it a cannabinoid. The aminoalkylindole family are agonists at the CB1/CB2 (Cannabinoid) receptors.

Ok its not fake its a replication, happy?

Originally Posted by shepj

What is with you people and "Chinese chemicals"? China provides plently of intermediates and pharmaceuticals to our pharmaceutical companies in the United States. There is nothing wrong with a substance synthesized in China vs. United States or any other country.

You sure about that? Anyone remember the hazardous amounts of lead in toys? Or the chinese drywall that sent many people to the hospital? There's a pretty fat reason to at least question everything that comes here from china.

Originally Posted by shepj

Have you ever had any of the JWH-xxx's? Half of them are stronger (and in my opinion) better than most bud anyways... it has nothing to do with pot being illegal. Look at all the research chemicals.

Nope don't really fuck with any intoxacants that aren't 100% all natural except alcohol and an occasional Newport. What are all the other synthetic chemicals I need to reasearch by the way? I've only heard of JWH-018 and HU-210.

Originally Posted by shepj

That is my issue.

I mean I understand (and agree to an extent) with the synthetic untested shit doesn't need to be tested on people (after all we have no idea what the long term effects will be in reality).. but when you just talk our of your ass that is a whole nother story.

And I am not trying to start an argument, I respect your opinion. I think that many of these smoke blends are potentially dangerous as none that I have seen list exactly which chemical(s) are inside (which as I am sure people have seen, has caused anxiety problems in a number of people).

AGREED

Originally Posted by Tanman402

I know more about it than i care to discuss. I'm not here to talk chemistry and physiology. That has nothing to do with the fact that people are smoking a substance that is more unknown than the substance its trying to impersonate.

If that were the case you would know the same substances that are in the legal smoke blends have quite a bit of medical research... maybe you should get on pubmed?

Originally Posted by Tanman402

K2 is made in china. The reason why i mentioned them in the first place.

How did you find this out? It is not on their site nor do they answer emails that do not partain to anything accept for shipping.

Originally Posted by Tanman402

Ok its not fake its a replication, happy?

Like I initially said, you do not know what you're talking about. You're saying all substances on earth that hit your cannabinoid receptor are a 'replication' of marijuana? So is every substance that hits your 5-HT2A a 'replication' of LSD?

Originally Posted by Tanman402

You sure about that? Anyone remember the hazardous amounts of lead in toys? Or the chinese drywall that sent many people to the hospital? There's a pretty fat reason to at least question everything that comes here from china.

I do not speak when I am not sure.

China is one of the world's biggest suppliers for the solvents, catalysts, precursors, and pharmaceuticals that are used medicinally.

Last time I checked, toys are not synthesized... maybe I am incorrect? I didn't know chemists made drywall either! Let's stay on topic here, their chemists are amazing.

Originally Posted by Tanman402

Nope don't really fuck with any intoxacants that aren't 100% all natural except alcohol and an occasional Newport. What are all the other synthetic chemicals I need to reasearch by the way? I've only heard of JWH-018 and HU-210.

100% narural? There are over 4000 chemical compounds in a cigarette when burned! How is that natural?

Maybe you need to research EVERY substance.

I am not here to argue with you.. but if you are going to call me out like that, you should really know you are in WAY over your head dude.

Originally Posted by shepj

If that were the case you would know the same substances that are in the legal smoke blends have quite a bit of medical research... maybe you should get on pubmed?

I did know that. But K2 is not intended for medical use.

Originally Posted by shepj

How did you find this out? It is not on their site nor do they answer emails that do not partain to anything accept for shipping.

I've been following this stuff pretty closely in the news. I read that its made in china and korea in another article.

Originally Posted by shepj

Like I initially said, you do not know what you're talking about. You're saying all substances on earth that hit your cannabinoid receptor are a 'replication' of marijuana? So is every substance that hits your 5-HT2A a 'replication' of LSD?

Please enlighten my ignorance. gimme a link or something

Originally Posted by shepj

100% narural? There are over 4000 chemical compounds in a cigarette when burned! How is that natural?

i only smoke cigarettes and drink socially. i go months without having either. weeds a different story. shrooms are as adventurous as i get and only eat them when i can pick them.

Originally Posted by Tanman402

I did know that. But K2 is not intended for medical use.

True true. I do not necessarily trust a lot of the smoke blends, but I do trust pure JWH-018.

Originally Posted by Tanman402

I've been following this stuff pretty closely in the news. I read that its made in china and korea in another article.

I wasn't doubting you, I was just interested. Thanks.

Originally Posted by Tanman402

Please enlighten my ignorance. gimme a link or something

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JWH-018

You can also go to:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez

And search:

"JWH-018"

Originally Posted by shepj

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez

Sweet website. I could read that shit for hours.