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Tell the truth...
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Keep lying...
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10-27-2006, 03:03 AM
|  | Super Stoner Mr. Ganja | | Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Netherlands
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| | WTF Medical Marijuana | | Who believes that the medical aspect of the marijuana debate is a load of bollocks? Well let's face it the medical aspect IS the debate.
Fair enough, I'll admit that it does have some psychological benefits and maybe a few physical ones too. In all honesty though I truly believe that people just like to get stoned... we come from all walks of life whether ill or not, rich or poor... Come on, let's change the debate... Let's tell the fucking truth! | 
10-27-2006, 11:50 AM
|  | Stranger Stranger | | Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Republic of Kalifornia
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| | Your poll isn't clear to me, so I'm not voting. I will say that there are definitely people that benefit from the use of Marijuana, such as HIV patients, cancer patients, those with glaucoma, etc. My wife has a friend with HIV that tokes to induce hunger and to generally take the edge off. I see nothing wrong with that.
The flip side to the argument: if we start throwing bombs that infer medicinal users are full of crap and get legislation headed back the other way, where will we be? I'd much rather see liberalization towards use in general, if not just for medicinal purposes. | 
10-27-2006, 12:28 PM
|  | Super Stoner Mr. Ganja | | Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Netherlands
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| | That's what I'm talking about. The medical benefits of marijuana are negligible compared to the buzz. So if I want to smoke I've got to go to a doctor and make up some bullshit to make it okay? Compared to modern medicine marijuana is very pale, no competition whatsoever. Your wife's friend may well induce his appetite by smoking but not as well as he could by taking a prescribed medicine. People like to get stoned, even people with HIV. The medical qualities of marijuana are not going to make it legal for us all to smoke. I don't even believe that it's a start. We drink because it gives us a buzz, well some of us prefer to smoke, wtf's wrong with that?
They have no right to tell us we can't grow and smoke weed, no right at all.
I know that these medicinal claimers are full of shit and science is even right now declaring this to be the case. We will always lose the debate because we don't tell the truth. | 
10-27-2006, 02:39 PM
|  | Super Stoner Mr. Ganja | | Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: I am trapped in a space time continuem
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| | I am a medical marijuana patient. I didn't make anything up to get my mm card. By using mm I was able to quit taking Fiornal (that contained codine) for my migraines. The marijuana also was a huge help in controling my stress. I suffer from OCD. There is no cure but it helps me manage. My doctor agreed that this would be helpful.
While at the Alternative Medicine Outreach Program I have met many people who have quit taking perscription drugs far more addictive then my codine and with horrible side effects. Some of these people have quit everything cold turkey and simply rely on medical marijuana to help them make it through the day . So don't say that this is just a bunch of people who want to get high. To some this has been a real lifesaver! | 
10-27-2006, 04:08 PM
|  | Stoner Stoner | | Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: oblivion
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| | skunk, I have always valued your opinion, but on this, you do not know what you are talking about. To be honest, you sound like a narrow-minded DEA Agent. how can you sit there and say what every canna-person is thinking? That is mind boggaling! Without a doubt, people smoke to get high like myself, but not all people are like me. some actually have different priorities. I cannot sit here and tell you what a cancer patient is going through. I don't know? same thing with an AIDS patient, never been put in that boat either. if it makes thier life happier and possibly more enjoyable, cuz lets face it the prognosis is not promising, let them do it without harrassment from you, me, and dupree (sry had to throw that in there just watched). I would rather see someone tokin a fat-hog-leg than popping hydromorphone like its candy. PEACE!
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10-28-2006, 01:42 AM
|  | Super Stoner Mr. Ganja | | Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Netherlands
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| | It makes most of us happier when we are smoking. That's why we do it. I do it because it keeps my head straight and stops me feeling aggressive; so in that sense I too am using marijuana for medical purposes.
Marijuana is a very psychological drug, and I simply do not rate it as a pain reliever. It did nothing for my tonsilitus (the worst I've ever suffered from the affliction), yet a soluble tablet from the pharmacist worked wonders.
We all like to get stoned, just as many of us appear to like getting drunk. I just don't see why we need to rely on the medical aspect. I may not know exactly how a cancer patient or AIDs victim is feeling, but I've suffered with the flu, colds and tonsilitus (severe). Smoking marijuana did nothing to alleviate my distress during any of these periods, if anything it made my symptoms worse. I suppose where smoking marijuana comes in is that it gets you that stoned you simply push your symptoms to the side. They are still there, you just echo them out... the power of the mind and all that...
I just want to see marijuana legalised for the right reasons...
oh and mogie, I agree marijuana is good for getting people off other drugs. I've got an addictive personality, i just can't say no... so after many years I've finally settled with the drug I began with.
I really can see us losing this debate if we just stick with the medical aspects of marijuana. We need to stand up and be counted... so fucking what if we like to get stoned, wtf's wrong with that? | 
10-28-2006, 02:46 AM
|  | Marijuana Toker Marijuana Toker | | Join Date: Oct 2006
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| | Certainly there are medicinal qualities to marijuana just as alcohol or cocaine or morphine. But that's not why It should be legal. I want it legalized for recreation. Everyone should have the right to take it wether it's for their health problems or just for fun.
It really comes down to, Who decides what you can put in your body; you or society. In my case, ME. I could care less what society wants.
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10-28-2006, 08:16 AM
|  | Able To Roll A Joint Able to roll a joint | | Join Date: Oct 2006
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| | Everytime i have a cold and I hit the sweet leaves it seems to numb the sniffliling and my sore throat and all. Only thing is if i stay high long enough I dont have to deal with the cold, but if i come down the cold is not as bad but it's still there. So maybe just maybe marijuanna is a temporary relievent of the common cold. Which you all know we dont have a cure for the common cold or temporary relievents of a complete cold but we have medicine to reduce the symptons. I donno maybe you should get a cold and try it out for yourself. Maybe its just all in my head.
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10-28-2006, 10:05 AM
|  | Stranger Stranger | | Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Republic of Kalifornia
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| | Quote:
Originally Posted by Doobie006 But that's not why It should be legal. I want it legalized for recreation.
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I could care less what society wants. | Your statements conflict; you want it legalized but at the same time don't care what society thinks / wants... so what do you care if it's legal? | 
10-28-2006, 12:31 PM
|  | Super Stoner Mr. Ganja | | Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Netherlands
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| | I know I'm not the one being asked, but i really don't care if it is legalised or not. In fact it suits me just fine that it isn't legal. I just don't think it fair that we should be campaigning to get it legalised on medical grounds when this is not the whole truth of it. We like to get stoned, that's the whole truth, everything else comes after this. | | Thread Tools | | | | Display Modes | Linear Mode |
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