thinkin bout new ideas


ive been thinkking about getting a vaporizer, but theyre really fuckin exspensive. like 500 for volcano. and then i tohuhgt about what they actully doo. all they do is heat up to the point before combustion and avoid all the tarr and plant matter. then i thought what if they made a bic lighter that used a slighty different fuel that would change the temperature of the flame. if this could be done then in theory with this lighter u can smoke a bowl or bong and heat it up to the point before combustion but still hot enough to activate the thc.

so i did some research. and butane is a hydrocarbon. ( fuel made of carbon and hydrogens only) it burns at like 800 degrees. and its close relative pentane would burnn in the perfect range to do this.


so in essence its a cheap disposable form of vaporization

whatcha thinik?

no, vaporizing and smoking using a lighter are 2 different forms of smoking...vaporizing heats the weed and when you inhale its thc vapor, whereas smoking using a lighter...your burning it and creating smoke and other irritants and when you smoke using a lighter you create carbon dioxide which makes you tired and shit....whereas vaporizing i dont think it creates carbon dioxide...i could be wrong, this is just what ive read and heard

people also hold the lighter away to try to warm the weed and not have the flame right on the weed which is probably what your talking about, but you wont be able to replicate a vaporizer using a lighter....you can rig a cheap vaporizer from a lightbulb which works pretty good

rightt theyre different because the lighter heats the weed, plantmatter and all, past 450 degrees. and the vaporizer stays below that temperature to onlyy pick up on the thc which burns at 365 degrees or sumthin. soo if u can put a fuel in lighters that ignites and has a constant flame temp of less than 450 then u would in theory only be burning the thc. which is exaclty what a vape does the only differnece is co2 which is not harmfull

I'm pretty sure Co2 is harmful bro. It's Carbon Dioxide. It can kill you in large enough quantities.

i get what your saying...i dont think there is a type of gas that will create a flame with a temp lower then 450....my friends have used there car lighter as a last resort which may work as a cheap form of vaporization

i mean shitt in large amounts but its not large amounts at all. it be the samee amount as a regular lighter when smoking bowl. its minimal co2 foreal.

It'd still be an open falme no? doesnt matter how hot it is its gonna burn the weed. A vaporizer is like a hotplate. theres no open flame as to my knowledge, so Im just gonna say no. But im baked so I could be missing something here.

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butt what you gotta undderstand is, a flame is just when fuel meets air and a spark and it ignites. theirs no set temperature for that flame. thats dependant on the fuel involved. magicians these days use flames that have some special fuels and chemicals in them which makes them cool to the touch. so they dont get burnt cuz of the low flame temp.

What you're not accounting for is that any temp flame to any fuel source creates more flame at whatever temp that fuel source provides for.

Perfect example when you strike the flint of a lighter your not creating sparks, your creating TINY little flames that burn out very quickly. They start around 2000 degrees and drop almost instantly to nothing because the fuel burns so quickly. However this rapidly diminishing flame hits butane which burns at a relatively high temp as long as fuel is constantly applied.

So lets say you use a fuel that burns at 350F - 400F and apply that flame to the plant matter, the plant matter itself is a fuel and will burn when applied flame, so you're still burning the plant matter, tar, co2, carbon monoxide, THC and all, you're not just vaporizing anything your burning it all.

A vaporizer passes hot air over the herb instead of applying direct flame. The hot air turns the THC into vapor but doesn't burn the plant matter. Some vapes can and do get high enough to actually burn the plant matter and make the herb smoke.

To prove it you can do an experiment in your own home. Take a piece of bread and soak it in water. Put it on a cookie sheet next to a dry piece of bread at set it in the oven at 200F. The dry bread will toast on the side closest to the burner, the wet bread will put off water vapor until it's out of water and then it will start to toast.

Then take a butane torch (or lighter) and apply direct flame to a wet piece of bread and a dry piece of bread, they will both burn. The soaked bread will take longer to burn but it will still burn.

That's the difference between smoking and vaping. You smoke you apply flame (of almost any temp) you vape you apply heat without flame.

-RT76

i tottally get what your comin fromm, but if the flame stays below the combustion point of the plant its not gonna totally burn. it might slightly crispp but its not gonna burn.