Zacatecas purple x oaxacan

This our new Dorothy/ox line. Come on with it rev,lol! Dorothy mom was a pure Zacatecas tropic of cancer purple. By breeding our pure oaxacan male to her, we figured same thing should happen like with our Thelma line " huge eastern chua chua purple " that she would have larger versions of herself. Oaxacan, not only contributes as to size, yield and beautiful stature, but does not compete much with smells and flavors and tastes of what their bred too. Lowlands are the best and don't let them fool you, its lowland ox in super silver haze and most others, dutch brethren, know I'm speaking truth lol. Highlands are great, but their not the rugged beast that the true Christmas tree of the lowlands are. People have asked me, " what about the highland Zacatecas purple in that old picture?" OK let me tread lightly, lol. Photo always looked enhanced to me and back in the volunteer, we have some of the best purple mex imagined every year, pure stuff. We know our mexis and I've never..I'll just say that. Thin leaf Sativa's in mexico as far as we know, are highland southerns around Oaxaca, mochoacan and perhaps some areas high in guerro. Most Zacatecas purples are light green leaves and the whole tree is pretty much lighter green than the more northern purples. Far northern, are usually pretty dark and very purple and can be very aggressive trees. Zacatecas and that area swings toward light green trees with around 7 finger leaf count and more of a light purple dusting that's gorgeous. Far northern also have more loose buds. Zacatecas has more dense buds like so many like. Far northern..contemplating, Zacatecas...now were getting more high and sociable. Chance of hybrid not yet, lol. You grow one and you'll see there's no Indy..one love rev.the natural ...

e$kob@r , a breeder from europe, has several threads on his mexican crosses & seed stock.

here is his sub-forum on opengrow (of sannie seeds) : https://www.opengrow.com/forum/50-eskobar-seeds

e$ko is crossing these mexi genes into all kinds of stuff ...amnesia haze , god bud, chocolate rain.

i know for sure he ran through bunches of recently collected gear. found bomb dads & beaster females.

his souce is a cool dude named "el tiberon" a long time grower & (native) resident in the mexi "emerald triangle".

jalisco ibl : http://www.sanniesshop.com/jalisco-ibl.html

jalisco jaze : http://www.sanniesshop.com/jalisco-jaze.html

xocolope : http://www.sanniesshop.com/xocolope-en.html

oaxacan ibl (fem) : http://www.sanniesshop.com/oaxaca-ibl.html

purple storm (fem) : http://www.sanniesshop.com/purple-storm.html

keep your posts in one thread.
so we can reference everything easy & the conversations can flow.

you're lighting up the board with wisdom.
these growers aint ready !

more an indica fan who grows sativa for the clients, im still hungry for "chunky cherry malawi".

wtf?

rev... i need that

10-4 guys lol. Those are nice trees and grown right, I'm sure make quality medicine, however those are not pure ox or Jalisco with those short flowering times and unless they bred an ox to a purple like we did, lowland ox isn't purple and highland rarely would do it and has buds different. I don't get in peeing contests and will not be drug into one, but I got my taste for seedbanks and most just do not represent pure Sativa's correctly and especially the wonderful and very misunderstood and misrepresented, Mexicans. Nobody has tried them all, however I've tried those diamonds in the hybrid world that most have tried, including the original clone only blackberry kush " violet purple from birth and amazing violet purple through veg and flower color change that's hard to surpass," can't find it anymore...had ruderalis in its genes also, airy buds and super happy effect and tastes like blackberries. Nothing beats the lords Mexicans when grown right. Most don't. I down nobody's work and I don't sell nothing myself as I take donations or nothing, but you will still get what you need if sick or a serious breeder, not in it for money, but propagation. Brothers and sisters when they have a true sativa experience, it is life changing but you have to ripen the cannabinoids as I've discussed to experience it. THC won't give it...smile..rev.what's wrong with indica's? Nothing at all, however some need to be able to treat themselves without being knocked out all day and some suffer from mental disorders that properly grown Sativa's get rid of," early cut Sativa's can actually cause mental disorders...uh huh," not the trees fault, just everybody eating those green bananas and not understanding this tree properly and people are dying that can be saved with true cannabinoids oil " huh? " and not THC. Wisdom, no stopping it now as the gates are fixing to open and the true teachers will appear from nowhere and will want nothing. May god protect them this time as truth is hard swallowed by those who feel they have something to loose. We are loosing...our lives and its time to take them back and the truth that will soon be poured out will light a fire in those that receive it and put them on new paths never dreamed. Those that don't will stay on the same one, but it makes for good luncheons and more conversations that well, keep leading to the same thing. We must all remain open for sure as I ask for that daily. Humility, was my first step..still learning. I want everyone to live and love and find peace, however; through applying new info, we are able to see what works and apply and find the above a little quicker. Cannabis will soon be excepted as a cursed fruit and will soon be understood how to ripen it through its three stages and feed it correctly as the second stage produces way more bud and density also. Cannabinoids are what will heal, we have to stop cutting the banana when its green. Lol this was all news to me too at one time, did not know, my left from my right, but time can change a man or woman. Thought I knew allot in my life's studies, then a force stepped into my life that took my so called wisdom and crushed it with the common sense of truth and a little restraint in life. Rev was not always a rev. And what rev knows now is nothing at all on a cosmic scale, but seems to help people, when they apply...that's all brothers and sisters. Since I never ask for nothing, I guess my motives are as well as they can be for an ole sinner who's trying as I don't like suffering. Cancer, diabetes, heart disease, external hemorrhoids and falling down a water fall that almost killed me and cutting a wisdom tooth in the last 7 years has been taught me empathy for others suffering. Many suffer for lack of knowledge, but many suffer for no reason of their own. Lost most my family to the same illnesses that father taught me to cure using this fruit ripened properly and making oils and eating right including the seeds that are the most healthy in the world. There's no time for milk anymore, the meat must be digested or not. One love, rev.thenatural

pretty sure chunky cherry malawi can be had at thegreenpool...

professor KIND said:

keep your posts in one thread.
so we can reference everything easy & the conversations can flow.

you're lighting up the board with wisdom.
these growers aint ready !

more an indica fan who grows sativa for the clients, im still hungry for "chunky cherry malawi".

wtf?

rev... i need that

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You know, lol I do like cherry and I'll just tell you the best dutch indica I ever grown, was from ministry of cannabis, sensation. That one, is a jewel and so is carnival. Their is a pheno of zensation that if you find it, will go blood red full of true cbd in 13 weeks with hid. Tastes like a darn cherry pie and it an absolute pleasure to smoke and saved my life. When I fell down waterfall, my brain was taking water on and that would have been it. I had packed a wood pipe full of fully red trichrome cbd " that's what it is " second stage of ripening and pure cbd is a heck of an inflammatory as every time I toked that pipe, my brain went to normal and nobody could believe it. Took six months of complete self recovery, but I did with god only and I'm well considering it all. So, you may consider for its one I can certainly vouch for and see indica lovers...an indica, saved my life..smile. However, that's for the evening when you need to wind down. I figure if I'm gonna have indica, gotta be a purest there a little to. Got a guy a botanist friend, gave my buddy some 100%;pure old school afghans. Gonna feminize and raise a few generations of it with some raspberries bushes bonzai and come night time after the rev and friends have had a creative day on sativa.....can you say, night, night, lol! One love to the Indy crowd but you need to ripen them up too and they'll make you boys doing those dabs, crawl with your tounges on the floor. Red and gold trichomes on an indica, is a wonderful cannabinoids profile. Truly a pleasure to itself, that also few have known these days.

"however those are not pure ox or Jalisco with those short flowering times and unless they bred an ox to a purple like we did, lowland ox isn't purple and highland rarely would do it and has buds different."

the "purple storm" from e$ko is : god bud x mexican male

for sure , he did massive indoor selections from many seeds.
e$ko is very transparent so the data is in his threads.

flowering times are short(er) cause he was selecting for manageable finish times.
i'd never grow an long flower plant. cant. not really interested if anything goes past 70 to 75 days.

you guys are cutting an old cloth with new genes. i like the indica/sativa crosses.
they type where the sativa influences are in the nuggets.

ministry of cannabis seeds ?
interesting.

i remember them from a few years ago on attitude, is that company still selling beans?

God bud " a short little fart that throws out the chunks." You know, that with a mexi, would be interesting and perhaps bring a more smiley situation to those who are a little more chronic and need more sedation through the day and yet can still giggle at the wife a bit before being destroyed,lol. One love oh ya there still selling beans. With that carnival, your looking for the haze pheno with no fruit smell..best one, cloned it 13 generations and I have to be impressed with gear to do that. The only hybrids I decided to incorporate was: haze bros. Blue dream and 91 chemdawg and were proud of those projects. Carnival we will work with also and breed it to a pure Acapulco gold and that will be called " holy diver ". I like clean genetics, if I'm gonna breed any hybrids. There's good work and gear out there, don't get me wrong, I just am not hot on all this industry of the raw product, we can barter, if we make something from it, but not charge for the raw once free...soon. However, even my own pollen chucking and I've done this in other lives also, lol,nothing can compare to gods nature. No matter the genetics, most important is organics and proper ripening. No way to explain to someone the importance of patience, until you hand them a joint of ripened fruit. Some phenos " like zensation " you'll luck up on and even pure Sativa's can throw a strange pheno at times that will ripen quickly and those are rare and should be kept at all cost no matter the genetics. As people slowly accept the new info on how to properly ripen cannabis for cannabinoids, those phenos will be most valuable. However we should not breed every sativa to every indica in town to achieve it or we may heal bodies but Sativa's ripened properly, heal bodies and minds. Common sense and love will bring it all together.

Are you selling any of these seeds in the future and if so where to buy? On the hid emitting any useful amount of uvb or uva I can tell you it does not. I have a uvb meter and have read of others tewsts and no real uvb with fluoros or hid. I have a lizard light uvb cfl for such purposes that does emit enough uvb.

On the balanced light issue I think a good white LED will emit balanced light too. That is what I run.

yesum said:

Are you selling any of these seeds in the future and if so where to buy? On the hid emitting any useful amount of uvb or uva I can tell you it does not. I have a uvb meter and have read of others tewsts and no real uvb with fluoros or hid. I have a lizard light uvb cfl for such purposes that does emit enough uvb.

On the balanced light issue I think a good white LED will emit balanced light too. That is what I run.

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They do put out uva/uvb its just you have to find the right one and usually the ones that have thinner glass is better " plantmax 7200k is one that does and my top three favs",just got to get the one made on wed's. If using reptile supplement, your better off with the light bars not cfl, as they have shown better results, not on a meter, lol, but in real life. Also, anything that is 6500k and above, has same exact chemical affect as uva. Uva packs the trichomes and t5 seem to produce this well at almost any k. However, we found combining 4100k and 14000k in t5 was unreal growth and very resinous flowering and after many combinations..won the race. Got to do a t5 project and show how to get a couple pounds out of a 4-6 bulb. Proper defoliation and t5 is great growing and t5 will ripen the tree correctly like hid. If running leds , been there and done it, running all white is exactly the best deal brother as it will ripen the tree also and produce better quality. Lol done bout all this stuff. Probably killed more trees than the d.e.a. and that's how I learned lol. One love.......selling, a loaded question and my friend that I've met from my parents generation out here, says hard work should be rewarded and we pay bills also. Partners, I see my friend and he's genuine, just wants to see all of this help others and hey, make a few beans! Problem, see oh rev here, was given a small bit of revelation from the great one, a piece of truth that some think that others...can't handle, uh oh! I know this tree, I know were it came from and ..who brought it and uh oh, who it was that first planted it here on earth in his little green house eden, hush rev. When that happens, your heart, your faith and your very soul cannot put a dollar on it...at least not me. I told my friend, " donations only and if they cannot donate what they believe the work is worth by what they can afford to donate and their obviously genuine, they will not walk away from me, without having what they need or even what they want." If they are not genuine and fool us for their own greed, may their trees wilt and god forgive them,lol. Right now, that's best I can tell you. If its gods will, I'll see this through and this seasons seedings, will give us many and plenty. Can't wait to see people heal next year and get rocky mountain high out here, hillbilly style! Bring the organic tater chips and some all natural eye drops....look at those flamming eyes.lol

OK Mr. Kind. Here are some carnival pictures from years ago. Harvest these around 16 weeks and under hid got second stage color change and 25% cbd out of the one closest in photo, that was directly under the 1000 hid. Got video, first toke put the rev here in a night night pose under his computer for 15 minutes lol! My brother, got pictures of him smoking lion paw joints at 8 and half joint had him lost at the east tunnels and he lived by them most his life. Says lights were dancing all around him,lol. Haze is Amsterdam's golden child, no doubt. You just have to find the right one and then keep it. How did it compare to the pures though? As my brother said; " not a finer smoke have I had, than Mona and Maltese." He's smoked as much sativa as anyone I've known. The top cola of a pure ox is something not forgotten. Truth is though, there is one bigger, the largest of all resides in Columbia and not very potent, but possibly not harvesting it early and extra feedings and time in captivity would be good genes to work with and refine with other pure Sativa's. What's important most is leaving the landraces alone in the wild as their evolved for each particular place and each group of people, by god over time.

I've always read the Zacatecas line used in the famed Big Sur Holy Weed was lost for many years? Is this something members currently hold seed stock of?

coolkid.02 said:

I've always read the Zacatecas line used in the famed Big Sur Holy Weed was lost for many years? Is this something members currently hold seed stock of?

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This is a loaded question and I'm not here to cause any strife, only to love and help, but iwill tell you like this brother. In the southeast, we are the largest for Mexican. Not only what comes in from mexico, but also the pure Sativa's, that are grown by locals, who have grown the same pure Sativa's outdoors for 50 years at least. Purples from mexico are common but no less wonderful and some of the stock still floating around back home is as old school as it gets. Northern purples have always tended to be more dark purple and green and more airy bud and contemplating. Purples from the tropic of cancer and Zacatecas, covers a nice area tend more light purple and light green with a more dense bud and social happy effect. Intense uva/uvb in Zacatecas " lowland and highland also..very strong. Now, could that old enhanced picture of that so named highland Zacatecas, have actually exhisted and those boys just so lucky enough to find it? Or just good ole marketing again? Make your own opinion, but just know, we have seen purples and other phenos of northern and Zacatecas purples that are beyond beautiful. Buds of pure untouched Sativa's, that would blow minds. However, never has anyone I've ever known, seen one like that. So yes, we have pure Zacatecas and bred it to pure oaxacan male. Gonna be a beautiful pure sativa. God willing, we will post as they grow. One love

Just put under 400 hid with pure Acapulco's. Pure Zacatecas purple x pure oaxacan male. Dorothy ox line. Can't wait to show how beautiful these will be and pure as snow. One love rev.the natural

Rev.thenatural said:

Just put under 400 hid with pure Acapulco's. Pure Zacatecas purple x pure oaxacan male. Dorothy ox line. Can't wait to show how beautiful these will be and pure as snow. One love rev.the natural View attachment 3458286

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pisses me off with all the woodchips potting mix companies put into the mixes, it does nothing good and if too much it just stunts anything grown in it, some mixes ive sifted have 70% woodchip per volume, it saves the potting mix company heaps than just supplying good quality mix by buying woodchips cheap by the ton

georgio838 said:

pisses me off with all the woodchips potting mix companies put into the mixes, it does nothing good and if too much it just stunts anything grown in it, some mixes ive sifted have 70% woodchip per volume, it saves the potting mix company heaps than just supplying good quality mix by buying woodchips cheap by the ton

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Anything to save a dime! Lol, there's only three spoons of fox farm on top and the rest is perilite and hydroton. Its awful what so many are subjected to for profit, I miss my compost pile and red clay back in the volunteer so bad. Indoors, once cups are filled, I transplant to a 1-3 gallon cloth airbag and feed my trees trichome busting compost tea. Lol...rev

Any picture updates on the Pure Zacatecas purple x pure oaxacan male Rev. the natural?, also do you have any pictures of Dorothy's pure zacatecas purple?

King kush kloud said:

Any picture updates on the Pure Zacatecas purple x pure oaxacan male Rev. the natural?, also do you have any pictures of Dorothy's pure zacatecas purple?

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The ox x zac wound up being boys this time.
The pure Dorothy Zacatecas female is budding and her pure mate Armand is hoping to dust her later for pure zacs.

Truly a beautiful tree and long branched and fuzzy like the fuzzy opuntias that helped create them.

Highly sociable.

Rev.thenatural

hi rev

wow i was just given a very few BSHWmale/female seeds
didn't know if it would ever be found..and therysaid for the purple zac pheno

speaking of mexes i selfed a oaxacan clone i had so i could preserve it
thin leaves, willow tree shape,very very resinous, not overly potent but,, , catpiss tasty good but maybe a better breeder

i see you have a shot of my soon to be acapulco [joke] acquistion that will enrich my old life..

all ihave for my brain is "anons" vietblack which is doin me ok while my other seedlings from a decade or so are sprouting

its called grow them sativas before i get too old

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