Yktind - Aeroponic Continuous - The Legend of SWOG and SNOG
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Jad3
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Sure will!Let me know if you ever make it out to Southern California
And you, if you ever happen to come to Portugal =P
yktind
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Made some edible lollipops. Each sucker is about .7 gram. I used 28 gram of Jolumbo nigh to 16 oz everclear. Reduced it down then added that to dc's lollipop recipe. We also added grape jello. Which tastes amazing.
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Here is the recipe for the candies that I followed:
Google Tincture recipes or go back a couple of pages for the whole recipe. I prefer the freezer method but you don't always have 10 days to spare before a project. With the candies it was a "hey lets make edible lollipops", so we did the room temperature method.
Tincture: must decarb the bud first. I did 250 degrees for 45 mins. without preheating the oven.
28 grams: 16 oz everclear is my ratio and that feels pretty good. You will end up reducing the mixture later so really you can make it as strong as you want.
When you get to the candy making part I really recommend doing the hard candies instead of lollipops. The sugar really starts to set fast and if you aren't quick enough you''ll be fucked. Also when I make these again I will be making my own molds using corn starch (or however they do it).
Any way I didn't do to much research on it, haha. Just kind of winged it. Most of the recipes call for the tincture to go in last. What I did was reduce the liquid down to the amount of water that my recipe called for and then skipped the water. Didn't seem to hurt anything.
-----Found the recipe-----
2 Cups White Sugar
2/3 Cup Light Corn Syrup
3/4 Cup Water (Tincture mixture in my case)
Grape Jello (Small box)
Add Sugar, syrup and water to pot on medium heat.
Stir until all ingredients have dissolved and bring to boil.
Bring temperature to 275 degrees f. (This will take a while. Stir every 5 mins. or so and make sure nothing burns).
Add in Jello powder and stir everything well. Kill Heat.
****Put powder sugar all over your molds (unless using the corn starch idea, then you don't need to worry about sticking. Watch a couple videos on making molds)
Pour into your molds and let cool for 10 mins.
****Should be done before starting. You will need to move quickly once the sugar is ready.
Side note for dosage. You will have to figure that out. Every single mold is different. So use your best guess. We ended up with 36 lollipops and were anticipating 54. I also would not double the recipe because of how fast the sugar cools and starts to set.
Next time we do this we will follow basically the same recipe but we will make our own molds out of corn starch and they will be about jolly rancher size. Which I think will be the perfect dosage.
Here is a link to making the corn starch molds. Probably a little overkill but if you're going to do something may as well do it right:
http://www.instructables.com/id/Corn-Starch-Candy-Molds/?ALLSTEPS
Google Tincture recipes or go back a couple of pages for the whole recipe. I prefer the freezer method but you don't always have 10 days to spare before a project. With the candies it was a "hey lets make edible lollipops", so we did the room temperature method.
Tincture: must decarb the bud first. I did 250 degrees for 45 mins. without preheating the oven.
28 grams: 16 oz everclear is my ratio and that feels pretty good. You will end up reducing the mixture later so really you can make it as strong as you want.
When you get to the candy making part I really recommend doing the hard candies instead of lollipops. The sugar really starts to set fast and if you aren't quick enough you''ll be fucked. Also when I make these again I will be making my own molds using corn starch (or however they do it).
Any way I didn't do to much research on it, haha. Just kind of winged it. Most of the recipes call for the tincture to go in last. What I did was reduce the liquid down to the amount of water that my recipe called for and then skipped the water. Didn't seem to hurt anything.
-----Found the recipe-----
2 Cups White Sugar
2/3 Cup Light Corn Syrup
3/4 Cup Water (Tincture mixture in my case)
Grape Jello (Small box)
Add Sugar, syrup and water to pot on medium heat.
Stir until all ingredients have dissolved and bring to boil.
Bring temperature to 275 degrees f. (This will take a while. Stir every 5 mins. or so and make sure nothing burns).
Add in Jello powder and stir everything well. Kill Heat.
****Put powder sugar all over your molds (unless using the corn starch idea, then you don't need to worry about sticking. Watch a couple videos on making molds)
Pour into your molds and let cool for 10 mins.
****Should be done before starting. You will need to move quickly once the sugar is ready.
Side note for dosage. You will have to figure that out. Every single mold is different. So use your best guess. We ended up with 36 lollipops and were anticipating 54. I also would not double the recipe because of how fast the sugar cools and starts to set.
Next time we do this we will follow basically the same recipe but we will make our own molds out of corn starch and they will be about jolly rancher size. Which I think will be the perfect dosage.
Here is a link to making the corn starch molds. Probably a little overkill but if you're going to do something may as well do it right:
http://www.instructables.com/id/Corn-Starch-Candy-Molds/?ALLSTEPS
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yktind
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Here is the tincture method I followed:
For the freezer method. Put your bud and Everclear in the freezer overnight. This should be done after the decarb process. Then just crush everything up add the Everclear to the mason jar. Shake it once a day for 10 days. Then I use a mesh strainer to get the first one filtered. Then take a potato ricer and squeeze all of the liquid out of the herb (you could also just squeeze the shit out of it).
Then strain with a coffee filter. Once this is complete go to the stove turn the vent to high. Grab a pot that is bigger then the mason jar. Put the mason jar in the pot without the lid. Add about two inches of water and set it to medium heat. You are looking for movement not a rolling boil. I usually set my thermometer to go off at 190 degrees F. Then it is kind of up to you how much to reduce by. Your aim should be at least 50% reduction. However you can take it even further then that. I haven't done this yet. This will take over an hour, so be patient.
If you want to keep it as tincture grab some of the dropper bottles from a real drug store. CVS doesn't carry them. At least not to my knowledge.
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Room temperature method. Decarb then add herb to mason jar. Crush the shit out of it and add the Everclear. Shake this thing often over the course of 3 hours. Then do the same reduction method.
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The reason I prefer the freezer method is because of the freezing part. The lipids, waxes, etc. that will be released will stay frozen making it easier to filter out and make your final solution cleaner. At least that is my logic behind it.
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Another note: From what I have read a lot of people do two washes or more using fresh Everclear every time. I didn't do that on either one of these attempts. Looking at the material after everything is squeezed out it doesn't look like there is anything left. I am all about quality over quantity. I don't think we necessarily want to pull every single thing out of the plant.
Just like making coffee in a french press or beer using real grain. If you steep to long you will start extracting tannins. Which make beer and or coffee bitter. Again no scientific stuff, just my method and thought process.
For the freezer method. Put your bud and Everclear in the freezer overnight. This should be done after the decarb process. Then just crush everything up add the Everclear to the mason jar. Shake it once a day for 10 days. Then I use a mesh strainer to get the first one filtered. Then take a potato ricer and squeeze all of the liquid out of the herb (you could also just squeeze the shit out of it).
Then strain with a coffee filter. Once this is complete go to the stove turn the vent to high. Grab a pot that is bigger then the mason jar. Put the mason jar in the pot without the lid. Add about two inches of water and set it to medium heat. You are looking for movement not a rolling boil. I usually set my thermometer to go off at 190 degrees F. Then it is kind of up to you how much to reduce by. Your aim should be at least 50% reduction. However you can take it even further then that. I haven't done this yet. This will take over an hour, so be patient.
If you want to keep it as tincture grab some of the dropper bottles from a real drug store. CVS doesn't carry them. At least not to my knowledge.
____________________________
Room temperature method. Decarb then add herb to mason jar. Crush the shit out of it and add the Everclear. Shake this thing often over the course of 3 hours. Then do the same reduction method.
___________________________
The reason I prefer the freezer method is because of the freezing part. The lipids, waxes, etc. that will be released will stay frozen making it easier to filter out and make your final solution cleaner. At least that is my logic behind it.
____________________________
Another note: From what I have read a lot of people do two washes or more using fresh Everclear every time. I didn't do that on either one of these attempts. Looking at the material after everything is squeezed out it doesn't look like there is anything left. I am all about quality over quantity. I don't think we necessarily want to pull every single thing out of the plant.
Just like making coffee in a french press or beer using real grain. If you steep to long you will start extracting tannins. Which make beer and or coffee bitter. Again no scientific stuff, just my method and thought process.
yktind
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That's what I did. I took 2 cups of water and filled molds until it was gone. Which is where we came up with the 50 ish number. However, once sugar liquifies it isn't 2 cups. Does that make sense? So yea you can use it as a guide but liquid sugar is different then liquid water.
For example when you make simple syrup. You take 1 cup of water and boil with 1 cup of sugar... But you end up with 1.5 ish cup of liquid. So I guess if you are working with just water and sugar you multiple by 0.75 to give yourself an estimate as to how much liquid you will actually have. Either way it was our first time and I am happy with the results. Next batch will be better.
We had Cherry Lemonade and Strawberry. We decided on the grape since it was medicine lollipops. You know like Robitussin, lol.
yktind
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No green flavor what so ever. There is a huge cannabis flavor though. The only issue I would see with weighing everything, is that it is 275 degrees once you need to measure it. You'd have to get creative to be able to weigh it out and pour it before it cooled.
White dust is powdered sugar btw.
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Alright I am back. Been traveling for work and pretty frustrated with my grow right now. Had some issues with the hempys.
Solution was add in Mag. 2 of the girls corrected and look great! The others... Long story short I no longer trust my PH pen. Switched over to the droppers and am now aiming for Yellow with a little red tint. I feel like this will correct any remaining issues. Only time will tell.
Also, the plan this round is to eliminate Mother plants for an extended period of time. We will be moving to a smaller place to save up some money and purchase something permanent (house). So this round we will using CS spray @ 30 ppms. to turn one of the clones male. Then douse everything in the flower room with pollen and hopefully wind up with a million or so seeds. We will also do this with the Skywalker and then I will be shutting down for a little while. All of this needs to happen by October of this year. So luckily we have a bit of time.
Side note, I just wrapped the branches up so imagine these are actually double height.
Here are the current girls in Veg.
JOLUMBO:
Solution was add in Mag. 2 of the girls corrected and look great! The others... Long story short I no longer trust my PH pen. Switched over to the droppers and am now aiming for Yellow with a little red tint. I feel like this will correct any remaining issues. Only time will tell.
Also, the plan this round is to eliminate Mother plants for an extended period of time. We will be moving to a smaller place to save up some money and purchase something permanent (house). So this round we will using CS spray @ 30 ppms. to turn one of the clones male. Then douse everything in the flower room with pollen and hopefully wind up with a million or so seeds. We will also do this with the Skywalker and then I will be shutting down for a little while. All of this needs to happen by October of this year. So luckily we have a bit of time.
Side note, I just wrapped the branches up so imagine these are actually double height.
Here are the current girls in Veg.
JOLUMBO:
DrFrankenstien
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Lol, yeah I had that same moment... Once I no longer had my super lemon haze...
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yktind
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Well they are officially worse. I haven't been on in a while because frankly I am embarrassed as to what my plants look like right now.
I had to kill two of the plants that were shown above. My solution this week is to switch the nutrient program to simple... Lucas Formula.
Second I will be switiching back to Aero following Stink Buds method. Will post when I have a new thread started or if things turn around.
Will be taking clones. Once the girls are actually healthy enough to flower I will be spraying with CS to cause pollen pods and hopefully make a bunch of seeds. This way I can get rid of the mother plants.
Hope to be back in action soon!
Rant: Man is it frustrating. I had my fucking Aero unit all dialed in. Hit almost a pound on the last run and I say, let's try something different. Let's try hempy buckets... Fuck that. If you are setup to run aero run fucking Aero. Hempys are great if you are just starting out, unless you are me apparently. How can I figure out one of the most complicated methods yet fuck up the most simple? Annyway rant over. I am pretty pissed but then I thought why do I have such an emotional connection to these plants? They are just fucking plants. Learn and start again.
I had to kill two of the plants that were shown above. My solution this week is to switch the nutrient program to simple... Lucas Formula.
Second I will be switiching back to Aero following Stink Buds method. Will post when I have a new thread started or if things turn around.
Will be taking clones. Once the girls are actually healthy enough to flower I will be spraying with CS to cause pollen pods and hopefully make a bunch of seeds. This way I can get rid of the mother plants.
Hope to be back in action soon!
Rant: Man is it frustrating. I had my fucking Aero unit all dialed in. Hit almost a pound on the last run and I say, let's try something different. Let's try hempy buckets... Fuck that. If you are setup to run aero run fucking Aero. Hempys are great if you are just starting out, unless you are me apparently. How can I figure out one of the most complicated methods yet fuck up the most simple? Annyway rant over. I am pretty pissed but then I thought why do I have such an emotional connection to these plants? They are just fucking plants. Learn and start again.
AlphaPhase
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Ha! Story of my life man. I'm in the same boat and I relate to that. I swear I kill my plants if they aren't in hydro. I kind of have to switch up my vegging method now due to space and upping plant numbers. I had everything dialed in with any dwc, ebb and flow or ebb n grow bucket systems keeping everything in the same size netpots for easy transplant.. Now I'm vegging in rockwool croutons just trying to figure it out, I'm watering too much, not enough, too much nutes, not enough nutes, ph all over the place. 
My condolences man, Hope you get back on track with the aero unit and sorry about losing some of your gear
My condolences man, Hope you get back on track with the aero unit and sorry about losing some of your gear