Yet another question about "The Devil"

Zarezhu

Well-Known Member
I'm growing with Miracle Grow Moisture Control Soil. Bought at Walmart. 7 bucks for a 1.5 cubic foot bag.

Now I understand Miracle Grow is "horrible, it'll slaughter your plants, AHH", but I was wondering if I could fix this.

From what I understand, Miracle Grow is bad because of it's time release, causing you to overnute your babies, and even burn your seedlings.

I spent 1-2 hours removing every single of the time release nute balls from the bag (only got through like 1/4 of the bag actually cuz it's very time consuming).

Now I mixed 50% MGMC(with no time release), 25% perlite, 25% vermiculite.

Is my soil good, or does it still suffer from being evil miracle grow? Any suggestions or advice or anything at all?

Thanks
 

pabloesqobar

Well-Known Member
You should be fine. Miracle Gro soil can work perfectly for some plants. I'm in my first grow and used it. It works great for vegging. The problems (for me) happen when the 90 day supply of nutes gets used up. I waited too long before introducing extra nutes, and lost a ton of leaves as a result.

I think most of the problems with miracle gro soil users is that they are growing for the 1st time. The problems they encounter may have been caused by the miracle gro, but very likely was just operator error.

Best of luck to you!
 

NOWitall

Active Member
wellllll.

NO NO NO, BAD DOG, BAD.

one of the problems with MG is the spacific kinds of fert they use, more chemical in nature becuase its cheaper to process, also lacking almost all the micronutrients pot needs, then mixed with binders and stabalizers, then some dye for good measure. the time release caps are there for later, but they spray it on the soil for NOW. also since its made to be reliant on that feeds for nine months thing they use ingredients for the soil portion that lack nutes to begin with, one of those things to make you buy more. so when the fert does run out the plant has NOTHING to fall back on.

if you must use it go to lowes and get the ORGANIC type of MG

differant peeps say things like "look how big my tomatoes are" ignoring the fact that they taste like shit.

i can taste MG, in anything that was fed by it. especially bud. its like bud that not only wasnt switched to plain water for the last 2 weeks of flowering, but switched to 10 times the fert needed. like chemicals and burning saccharin.

if you use the MG soil DONT fert for most the veg, and hope your plant uses that nasty MG fert early on, and then swith to foxfarm a few weeks before flowering. that should minimize funky flavor in the bud.

yes MG does make weed grow very fast, but a GOOD fert will grow it faster, lusher, and just plain better. and you can NEVER completely get the taste of MG out of your weed.

if any of you say differant, i call you an indiscriminate, dirt weed likin, no tastebud having, no taste having, anti-connoisseur, that might as well just be smokin mexican brickweed. which i prefer to "marical bud". (if i offended anybody, i do appologize, but keep in mind, im an asshole, and i have tastebuds)

also ive found, NO repeat customers. they will buy once, but unless everybody else they know runs dry, they wont come back.

personal advice. THROW THE MG AWAY. and use one of the soil recipes on this forum. you might spend more. but its a better investment. when growing weed you get what you pay for. and saving 2 bucks on the "best choice" brand of soil will give you nothin but headaches about a month down the line.

take this from my personal experience, you can NEVER fix fucked up soil. you can make it less fucked up, thats all. damage controll through the entire grow cycle. also Most the comercial soils have a messed up PH, cuz its designed for houseplants and decorative flowers.
 

Zarezhu

Well-Known Member
ooh oooh i knew its a full moon today. gonna go net me some crawdads tonight, and full moons are the nights to go

and the MG perlite.. thats what ive been using. .04, .01, .06 is the NPK. That's not too bad is it?

Since nowitall scared me a bit, i ordered 1.5CF of fox farms ocean forest online.
Now I have a followup question. I have about 8 seedlings 2-3 weeks old, they're in those biodegradable jiffy pots that you're supposed to plant directly into soil when you transplant. Should I use 50/25/25 of FFOF, perlite,vermiculite when i transplant in the big pots even though the current is with 50% of the MGMC?

Or should I finish my grow using only MGMC?
 

mrmadcow

Well-Known Member
either will be fine
how about doing most of the plants w/ FFOF and a few w/ just MG to see if YOU can taste the diference?
I use MG organic and have done a side by side comparison w/ FF and another premium soils and found the only difference in taste comes from organic verses non-organic soils/ferts.
 
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