WTF CO? Trying to Kill MMj already?

Someone help me out here. If I understand this correctly CO is about to eff it up big time.
http://www.scribd.com/doc/44551141/Draft-of-Finalized-Rules-12-02-10

(2) If any person makes an affidavit before the judge of any county or district
court stating that he or she has probable cause to believe that marijuana,
edibles’, tinctures, oils, or other substances containing marijuana are being
unlawfully manufactured, processed, cultivated, grown, produced, sold,
distributed, stored, carried, conveyed, or possessed for any unlawful
manufacture, sale, or distribution, or simply possessed or used in violation of
article 43.3 of tile 12, within or triable within the jurisdiction of said court, and
describing in such affidavit the premises, location, vehicle, conveyance, or other
property to be searched or seized, the judge of such court shall issue a warrant
to any officer, which the affiant may designate, commanding such officer to
search or seize the premises, location, vehicle, conveyance, or other property
described in such affidavit.

Correct me if I am wrong, but now anyone can snitch on anyone, and that is all it takes for a warrant? No proof? So if some douche "swears in court" that I grow too much, then the warrant can be issued?

I dont know if I would say this is going to KILL MMJ but it definately sucks someone can go in and say they have "probable cause". I wonder what exactly they would consider that to be?

"hi judge, I saw my neighbor carrying 5 bags of soil into his house" does that mean probable cause and will they then come and search your place?

But honestly how does this change anything from before? People have always snitched on people, and cops have always had the prob cause law for warrants and search and seizures. The person swearing and signing the affadavit would have to testify in court and have witnesses, honestly how many people you know thats gonna just snitch on you because you can by state law! only people ive ever seen snitch they get introuble first then snitch, so what is really changing?(unfortunately ive been testified on)

They're testing their muscles and trying to get some laws passed on the books that will allow them to tax and regulate. Otherwise knock the little guys out and make it all big business, RJ Reynolds comes to mind. The ACLU will be all over this one with the first "bust" but I am fearful it will make things a lot more difficult for several years. Just because the voters want it doesn't make it palatable to the powers that be. The DEA employs a lot of people who have relatives as lawmakers.

These are rules that pertain to MMC's and are coming from the Department of Revenue in support of HB10-1284.

Medical Marijuana Centers have waived all of their rights anyways so it's nothing earth shaking. They can come look at anything they want anytime they want. No warrant necessary.
Just walk on in and shake it down....

http://www.cdphe.state.co.us/hs/Medicalmarijuana/DRAFTPHYSICIAN%20REGULATIONS.pdf

Check out this .pdf file... looks like im staying in CA

Dont tell no one,
number one rule.
How most growers get caught.
Only me and someone else knows about mine,
but Ive known him since elementary,
so the shits strate lol.

You people have NO IDEA how bad it is about to get. I warned everyone about HB1284 and SB109 wayyy back...and they passed. Things went downhill fast. They are about to fall off a cliff...

Proposed Medical Marijuana Database Worries Some Patients

​It looks as if Colorado's medical marijuana grow rooms and dispensaries will soon have live cameras with state employees watching on the other end. But that's not the worst of it, according to some patient advocates.

One item among the 90-something pages of regulations and procedures for Colorado's medical cannabis industry unveiled this week by the Department of Revenue is making some patients particularly nervous -- the plan for a massive new database of patients who enroll in the Medical Marijuana Registry. The list will be available around the clock to law enforcement agencies.

Currently, the registry is maintained by the Colorado Department of Health and Environment, reports Greg Campbell at Face The State, and it can only be accessed by police officers when they need to confirm the enrollment status of a person in custody.

The Cannabis Therapy Institute has called the new plans a violation of the Constitutional amendment approved by Colorado voters which legalized medical marijuana 10 years ago.

"This patient and medicine tracking database is a clear violation of Article XVIII, Section 14 of the Constitution, Colorado's Medical Marijuana Amendment, which requires that the health agency maintain a confidential registry of patients, which can only be accessed by law enforcement for the purpose of determining whether a person who has been detained is a member of the Registry," the CTI said in a press release.

The new database would "provide law enforcement with 24/7 access to registry data," said Fern Epstein, an information technology consultant hired by the Department of Revenue to analyze the state's information needs.

"We need to involve the Colorado Crime Information Center, which is managed by the Colorado Bureau of Investigation," Epstein said, "and that would give access to officers on the street and in their patrol cars, access to the registry and Department of Revenue data."

The regulations -- which include a system for tracking marijuana "from seed to sale" in an effort to avoid its diversion to the black market -- rely heavily on information technology.

Grow operations will be fitted with cameras that will be monitored by state regulators. Cameras will also track sales to individual patients at the cash register.

Patient advocates have long worried that such information would be used by police to target patients. Although legal for medicinal use in Colorado, marijuana is illegal for any purpose under federal law.

The rules will be adopted after a hearing which could take place as early as next month. Legal challenges to some parts of the new regulations are expected.

Meanwhile, a state health department's Medical Marijuana Advisory Committee gave the go-ahead Wednesday to strict new rules for how Colorado approves new conditions which qualify for medical marijuana, reports The Denver Post.

The proposed rules require "rigorous studies" be published in research journals showing marijuana's effectiveness in treating a certain condition before that condition would be considered.

In a divided vote Wednesday, the committee sent the rules to the Board of Health for final consideration next month.

Medical marijuana advocates say the standard is too strict, and leaves out some patients who would benefit from cannabis

Soon the DEA will have a National Data Base list of everyone who has a MMJ card from all states that give them to patients.

Yes if you have a card the DEA has you name home addy

colonuggs said:

Soon the DEA will have a National Data Base list of everyone who has a MMJ card from all states that give them to patients.

Yes if you have a card the DEA has you name home addy

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SO WHAT?! They going to come for my personal medical garden? Listen, cause you seem to not know how things work. Hustlers who make weight don't get cards. Legit medical folks get cards. Really?

Matt Rize said:

SO WHAT?! They going to come for my personal medical garden? Listen, cause you seem to not know how things work. Hustlers who make weight don't get cards. Legit medical folks get cards. Really?

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The DEA is the federal govt. that currently does not accept any states valid use arguments. That means yes, yes they can come for your "federally illegal" medical garden.

There is no legal marijuana in the USA other then those few that got into that old govt program.
No states license or permit means anything to the feds, and in the federal legal system you are not even allowed to use a medical defense because that doesn't exist on the federal side.

BadAndy said:

I dont know if I would say this is going to KILL MMJ but it definately sucks someone can go in and say they have "probable cause". I wonder what exactly they would consider that to be?

"hi judge, I saw my neighbor carrying 5 bags of soil into his house" does that mean probable cause and will they then come and search your place?

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If you ask me, CO will probly have a flux of paranoid reports of important people having too much marijuana growing thsu leading to too many police investigations all at once of people who turn out to be innocent leading to cries of harrassment leading to police being told to back down by politicians who fear losing their seat because of peopel complaining of messed up warrents and increased costs to mantain all these court cases by the searches that were warrented but wrong.

Dirty Harry said:

The DEA is the federal govt. that currently does not accept any states valid use arguments. That means yes, yes they can come for your "federally illegal" medical garden.

There is no legal marijuana in the USA other then those few that got into that old govt program.
No states license or permit means anything to the feds, and in the federal legal system you are not even allowed to use a medical defense because that doesn't exist on the federal side.

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"Can" and "will" and "worth it" are all different my amigo, let's not confuse reality. Plenty of bigger fish out there. You think the fed wants to try to prosecute a bunch of sick people or the commercial growers... reality check. Sick people are poor and not worth prosecuting. Its about money for the fed, not medicine. They already know pot helps sick people.

tardis said:

If you ask me, CO will probly have a flux of paranoid reports of important people having too much marijuana growing thsu leading to too many police investigations all at once of people who turn out to be innocent leading to cries of harrassment leading to police being told to back down by politicians who fear losing their seat because of peopel complaining of messed up warrents and increased costs to mantain all these court cases by the searches that were warrented but wrong.

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you can only waste so much of the prosecuters and the judge's time before they realize they have bigger fish to fry and sick people who simply want medicine are hard to convict.

Matt Rize said:

you can only waste so much of the prosecuters and the judge's time before they realize they have bigger fish to fry and sick people who simply want medicine are hard to convict.

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I am sparticus... I mean "I just saw a guy who was carrying materials into his home for marijuana or gardening!!" "damn 31st call today!"