World Of Hempy

yankeetransplant

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Its looking nice and full...nice to see you switched away from soil...soil growers need their soil to break down into its salt form BEFORE the plant can uptake nutrients.....why take a chance that ones soil is breaking down to the perfect ratio of elements, WHEN hydroponics offers them ALREADY in salt form...thats why hydroponics outgrows soil...you can always offer a perfect balance of nutrients with hydro....Never understood the reasoning for using soil....I get that some think is a more natural approach, but from a technical aspect, it will NEVER offer such a balanced nutrient program....Looking forward to seeing that plant grow out...
 
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yankeetransplant said:
Its looking nice and full...nice to see you switched away from soil...soil growers need their soil to break down into its salt form BEFORE the plant can uptake nutrients.....why take a chance that ones soil is breaking down to the perfect ratio of elements, WHEN hydroponics offers them ALREADY in salt form...thats why hydroponics outgrows soil...you can always offer a perfect balance of nutrients with hydro....Never understood the reasoning for using soil....I get that some think is a more natural approach, but from a technical aspect, it will NEVER offer such a balanced nutrient program....Looking forward to seeing that plant grow out...
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Thx for the support..

Yea, it is easier than soil...I wouldn't have believed it before I tried it. I've been growing in Roots Organic and Fox Farms for about 4 years..

I am coaching a new grower and he is having all sorts of issues.. The only thing I can figure is that it's his soil (uinknown brand) .. Not much we can really do if the soil is inferior or not PH balanced etc.. I told him to look forward to his next grow :)

He's finally got the tent, the fan, the light and all the necessary supplies,, I'm steering him towards hempy for the next grow, but he says he's away for a few days at a time. If he's in a 2 gallon do you think his res will dry up too quickly? I guess he could always hook up a small res and a pump on a timer.
 
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When he first transplants they would go 5 days but once they get some size on them, they will drink up a 2 gallon Hempy in a day (2 max depending on plant size)....HE COULD, drain to a tote with a pump timed to water back to them once a day...then replenish with fresh mix when he is there...technically, it a drip system then soon as u automate the watering from a main rez...But I have know those who did that and it works well.....I wanted to get completely away from remote reservoirs, pumps, timers....If DOES make sense with LARGE setups to avoid watering possibly dozens of plants....Hempy is for sure is a small crop system....but it cant be beat for the closet gardener....
 
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I posted a pic of garden at 21 days veg..just in the last 2 days they gave me what more I wanted to induce flower...SO, 4am tonight lights will go out for their 1st 12 hr dark cycle...I run my plants 24 hrs in veg...just took this pic...they will certainly fill this space efficiently after stretch is over...they are thriving on 700ppms of Dyna-gro (veg formula)...about 7 days into flower, I transition to bloom formula by using half and half, and by 12-14 days when stretch is mostly over, I use bloom only... I think the Grow formula is important to support the rapid stretch period....20170827_165952.jpg
 
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I've been looking forward to growing these Bomb Seeds genetics and have mostly THC Bombs...I did have a cpl Bubble Bomb freebees included....One of those looked so good, it made the cut to go into the main garden to be grown out....she is 2nd shortest plant in the room but is the thickest, most lush plant of all of them....here is a close up of a grow tip....I have had a lot of strains get premature resin glands while in Veg, but this one has the most I have ever seen...She is going to be an amazing plant!!!20170828_034659-1-1.jpg
 
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yankeetransplant said:
When he first transplants they would go 5 days but once they get some size on them, they will drink up a 2 gallon Hempy in a day (2 max depending on plant size)....HE COULD, drain to a tote with a pump timed to water back to them once a day...then replenish with fresh mix when he is there...technically, it a drip system then soon as u automate the watering from a main rez...But I have know those who did that and it works well.....I wanted to get completely away from remote reservoirs, pumps, timers....If DOES make sense with LARGE setups to avoid watering possibly dozens of plants....Hempy is for sure is a small crop system....but it cant be beat for the closet gardener....
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Reminds me of the first book on growing weed by Ed Rosthenthall named "The Closet cultivator" :)
Back then there was very little info to be had. I would read high times when I could get my hands on a copy... I started my first garden with bag seed and a 100w hps security light.. It probably got up to 100 degrees in that attic closet and I ended up with a trash bag full of leaf :)

How about you? First garden?
 
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Wow...memories...September 1979 was my 1st little attempt...(2) 4ft fluorescent fixtures and 3 bag seeds of what a buddy called California Orange.....Also had subscription to High Times...No internet, no decent How To books really...But actually had all 3 of those seeds be female and prompty "F"ed them up curing in a bag and it rotted...read that nonsense somewhere...Also had a HPS light from the city and put together a makeshift ballast...within the 1st yr, figured out a BUNCH...Bought my first grow light...vertical hung bulbs only then...grew bag seed (some good) for a cpl yrs, till I read about places in Amsterdam that sold seeds...SSSC (super sativa seed club) M31 Williams Wonder..wrapped my cash in carbon paper and about 9-10 weeks later, low and behold a little manilla padded envelope in the mail box with a Wichita Kansas post mark, with my seeds....WOW, NOBODY in the Boston area (where I grew up) saw anything like it.....The rest is history....
This Hempy Bucket, that some have taken credit for, was widely used WAY BACK THEN....of course the name was attached much later...it was the ONLY VIABLE method we had...AND IT WORKED GREAT....then wick systems, the on to more automated like drip systems, flood and drain tables, NFT, rockwool (UHG!), then water culture....fell for every gimmick that came out...once u FULLY understand the concept of hydroponics, u realize that the simple Hempy Bucket is as good as any (with a cpl slight modifications) and in some cases, better....for commercial size or LARGE home gardens, automation makes sense, but the average closet gardener, Hempy is simple, qnd VERY EFFECTIVE....There is a MULTI BILLION dollar industry now that doesnt want ppl to think some thing so simple, made at home works as well....They rely on ppl believing u need all the bells and whistles to do it right....ANYONE who doesnt think so, can look back a page or 2 in this thread and see some of the buds a good Hempy Bucket produces....Hempy buckets are NOT JUST FOR BEGINNERS....Been a long road, but an amazing one...all I can say is, been there, done that and got the t-shirt....
 
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sunny747

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yankeetransplant said:
Wow...memories...September 1979 was my 1st little attempt...(2) 4ft fluorescent fixtures and 3 bag seeds of what a buddy called California Orange.....Also had subscription to High Times...No internet, no decent How To books really...But actually had all 3 of those seeds be female and prompty "F"ed them up curing in a bag and it rotted...read that nonsense somewhere...Also had a HPS light from the city and put together a makeshift ballast...within the 1st yr, figured out a BUNCH...Bought my first grow light...vertical hung bulbs only then...grew bag seed (some good) for a cpl yrs, till I read about places in Amsterdam that sold seeds...SSSC (super sativa seed club) M31 Williams Wonder..wrapped my cash in carbon paper and about 9-10 weeks later, low and behold a little manilla padded envelope in the mail box with a Wichita Kansas post mark, with my seeds....WOW, NOBODY in the Boston area (where I grew up) saw anything like it.....The rest is history....
This Hempy Bucket, that some have taken credit for, was widely used WAY BACK THEN....of course the name was attached much later...it was the ONLY VIABLE method we had...AND IT WORKED GREAT....then wick systems, the on to more automated like drip systems, flood and drain tables, NFT, rockwool (UHG!), then water culture....fell for every gimmick that came out...once u FULLY understand the concept of hydroponics, u realize that the simple Hempy Bucket is as good as any (with a cpl slight modifications) and in some cases, better....for commercial size or LARGE home gardens, automation makes sense, but the average closet gardener, Hempy is simple, qnd VERY EFFECTIVE....There is a MULTI BILLION dollar industry now that doesnt want ppl to think some thing so simple, made at home works as well....They rely on ppl believing u need all the bells and whistles to do it right....ANYONE who doesnt think so, can look back a page or 2 in this thread and see some of the buds a good Hempy Bucket produces....Hempy buckets are NOT JUST FOR BEGINNERS....Been a long road, but an amazing one...all I can say is, been there, done that and got the t-shirt....
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Awesome story....
 
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You had mentioned possibly using a waterfarm...this guy is a COMPLETELY Boring to watch, but here is a link to his DIY WaterFarm bucket....I watched it an works exactly the same and probably build it for $10 NOT including a little water pump....Only thing his is missing, is a drain (could be a simple runner stopper)...and I would put an upward turned 1" pvc elbow on the side for adding water into it...put that just below the level of the grow rock BASKET......Then again, thats a whole different forum then....LOL
 
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Day 4 of flower ending in few hours...Some stretch just starting to show...never grew Bomb Seed genetics, but understand from seedfinder, it has an avg of 125% stretch...Sure beats 3x stretchers, and there are plenty of those out there...I put a cage on my 1 White Widow plant...not a super stretcher but needs something supporting the weight of the tops...Branching is not quite stiff enuf...These Bomb plants, both the THC Bomb and Bubble Bomb, have stalks and main branching strong enuf to build a treehouse in...I've grown MANY strains, and these are in the top cpl ever for stiffest branching....NO CAGING NECESSARY....They have all been lollipopped, a few large shade leaves popped off each plant...I only lollipop what I am sure wouldn't produce a good nug...I DO USE selective defoliation to bring in as much light to all potential budding sites...that in conjunction with the light mover produced a very homogenous crop of ripe buds and helps maximize yields....Very excited to see how these will grow out in my hempy buckets...I am seeing some different phenos which is good to find the best strain has to offer....took a few cuttings off each already...Those are standing up proud....I have not lost a cutting in probably 20 yrs, and these show NO SIGN of being any different....have read a few reports of ppl having issue with their THC Bomb cuttings...most likely, they just they didnt like their method...Still thriving on ~700ppms of Dyna-Gro...I May up that a little when I switch to flower solution, BUT by supplementing with Monster Bloom....LOVE THAT STUFF!!!...More pics to come as they grow out more...Y.T.

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Look'n good Yankee... Yea, I love the stretch.. To me it's the most exciting time. (Until the plants blow out the side of your cab :)

Here is where I am at. Just flipped yesterday. I'm impressed by the size of the trunk and the jungle shot from the underside. I have no idea how much she will stretch.. Hopefully just enough to fill the screen.

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yankeetransplant

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Awesome!!!....yeah, it has a great looking stump....Not sure if you can get at it, but try to clean off everything underneath that doesnt have one of your main shoots going to topside....Stretch is fun with a screen....If u just flipped, its gonna fill in nice...seems your timing is nice....do u use the 75% rule...induce flower when about 75% of the screen is occupied?...It appears, you got enuf screen space left to accommodate stretch....I have closet walls that lock me in from scrog crops...cant get at the sides toward the rear and the entire rear for cutting, lollipopping, leaf removal, etc....I have done plenty in the past...I Always trained my largest, thickest branches toward the outsides of the screen..being the biggest, they ultimately came up the tallest...this would create a 'bathtub' shape canopy....If its highest in the middle, it will throw shade on the shorter outside tops....ANY successful SCROGGER knows training your screen properly is an art...speaking of that, have u ever seen pics online of single plants in a 5 gal bucket that is scrogged to a 4ft by 4ft screen?...Some are very skillful at training branches....yours is gonna be full and pretty...bet your looking foward to your 1st hydro to be a good one...your on your way!!!...just keep that pH and the nute ppms tuned and its basically a no-brainer....Happy Hempy Hydro
 
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I mentioned I am running Bomb Seeds genetics this time...I did put 1 plant that is not...its my pet White Widow extrm from Elephantos in Amsterdam...they dont carry a BUNCH but known for carrying quality...here is a pic of her from a previous crop 2 days prior to harvest...the HPS lamp causes that orange hue washout, but it really doesn't matter with her...She looks good in any color, and I like to share her good looks...LOL...Just another example of what passive hydroponics is capable of...Y.T.Screenshot_2016-06-24-22-46-46-1-1-1-1-1(1).png
 
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You had mentioned a friend wanting a plant but is gone a lot....ppl never consider this method but it works great and is more fool proof than even a Hempy Bucket....The Wick System...single plant is SUPER EASY...set a cpl gallon container on top of a 5 gal bucket...that container has wicks (cotton rope, oil lamp wicks or anything similar), coming out the bottom of it...cut a hole in the 5 gal bucket lid the wicks go thru....use a 2:1 mix perlite:vermiculite...when u fill the container with medium, hold the wick up somewhat so it is coiled a little in the medium, instead of just barely coming into the container...the wick simply hangs into the water/nute mix in the 5gal bucket...THATS IT....you can walk away from that for many days....NO CHANCE of over watering, under watering and the pH stays stable in your rez....the plant can drink when it wants and the wicks keep it coming up....we did this back in the mid 80ies and it works great....A 1st garden is a homerun everytime...as long as the person understands how to set the pH and ppms in the rez...cpl pics of single plant or multiple...since it is basically fool proof, a 1st timer will get a beautiful plant....too many new growers see all the newer technologies and assume if experienced growers are using it, thats how it's done.....it doesn't get any easier to get your feet wet with this system and get a great plant...hard to imagine a system more simple than a hempy bucket, but this is!!!!...a simple system and a perfect plant and he will be hooked and highly motivated....quick edit..an airstone or small circulation pump keeps the rez healthier...
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Hi Yankee, i'm doing a couple of hempys right now, being amazed by its simplicity and good results. This wick systems seems to be really easy to maintain, but I'm wondering about the rez change or refill rate. Is it like DWC as you have to change the nutrient solution like once a week? Or maybe it last longer? Thanks, really nice plants in this post!
 
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It actually lasts until its gone...the rate, of course, depends on the size of the plant..there is No return BACK to the rez going on where the ratio of elements constantly lessens....The wicks just pull it up until its gone...A airstone or small pump is always nice to keep it mixed and aerated, but the numbers and pH remain constant until its gone....I had a buddy with a LARGE set up around 1987 or so, where he had (3) 8ft longs troughs..they had covers and plants lined up along the length of each with wicks going into a hole under each container into the water/nute mix (pump keeping each mixed)....(2) 1000w light...It was the mid 80ies version of High Tech hydroponics....We already had LST methods figured out, screens were used a lot but not scrog method, just support...That system ROCKED THEN...the ONLY REASON it went obsolete, cause all of a sudden, a market was born for hydroponic equipment...drip systems and shortly after, flood and drain tables...everyone assumed these were the new ADVANCED methods and must have items...that ideology still goes on today, with a multi-billion dollar market place worldwide...BUT the wick system is extremely effective, easy, and WITHOUT pH and ppm issues...In essence, you could have a BIG REZ that fed them for a cpl weeks at a time...of course in veg, the ppms rates increase frequently with plant size, but once your a cpl weeks into flower, you could set it and forget it until the rez is dry...the ppm rates then, are pretty much constant...anyone can buy a set of meters (pH and TDS), Set up a wick system and be 100% certain of a good harvest...No pH issue, or TDS fluctuations, cannot over or under water....Short of getting pest infestation or burning up your plants (basic logistics of growing stuff), ANYONE will have a killer 1st plant, Or plants...Y.T.
 
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Chunky monkey!!!...I had a Northern Lights once that grew just like that...it was one of those seeds u start and u can hardly get the scissors btwn the nodes cause they are so tight...GDP is a solid grow most the time...I never had the pleasure of getting one to actually purple out...that appears to be lacking purples...but most dont, contrary to the name....My temp is central A/C controlled and never goes above, or below 75ish...many phenos need that cooler temp late in flower to bring it out....But Yeah man, a regiment of those, elbow to elbow, would be pretty and easy to manage...great when u can get some weight off a plant that short...kinda limits you to plantlet, or does it actually veg good?...maybe u just induced flower early???
 
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Guess I will throw up a cpl pics...I am day 12 of timer flip...(6) 5gal hempy buckets with air stones in each...4 THC Bombs, 1 Bubble Bomb, and my pet White Widow extrm...Room 4ft by 5ft so I top to produce 8-10 tops or so...supercrop any high branches to keep the canopy flat as possible....I am In a COMPLETE panic mode cause hurricane Irma is heading somewhat toward me...I am in the sunshine state but not down south, but Irma is looking like a mean bitch...I am ready with generator and a 100gal of gas though...got my fingers crossed, she jogs further away from my location...single plant pic is one of the THC Bombs right at the closet door..quick edit..the single cage in there is on the WWx plant...gets heavy tops and needs help...the Bomb genetics I got have super thick, sturdy branches..Y.T.
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