Will this set up work?

Heller, first time post here, avid RIU visitor.

Ok, so Ive invested countless hours into the horticulture and botany of cannabis, and Im pretty familiar with the plant itself, but nonetheless this will be my first "legitimate" grow. Soo, will it work? Here it is:

High quality soil/nutes from home depot.
A dixie cup with drainage holes (I will not transfer as I want to keep the plant small)
A nice feminized auto flower from a seed bank. (Not sure which yet, any ideas?)
A 1 1/2 cubic ft cardboard box with reflectors all around it, i will NOT use aluminum foil
A 3,000 or so lumen [cfl??] (one light bulb)
A small battery powered fan (handheld ones from amusement parks)

So i will germinate the seed as usual then plant it inside the dixie cup in the cardboard box, i will keep the light fixture a foot above the plant (in a hole on the top of the box) and keep it on a 18/6 cycle for maybe two weeks then go down to 10/12 during flowering , hopefully it flowers at all. Reason for this cheapy crappy set up is because i live with my mom, shes pretty nonchalant about bud though. Anyways will this setup work at all? Im working with about $50 (minus seed money). Thanks guys any feedback is appreciated!

Anyone?

It will work, but you're yield will be nothing... Check out stealth grows.

Probally looking at 10 grams every harvest

I don't think anyone has any experience with anything that small. A battery powered fan won't last an hour.

Also not sure but can probally keep the bulb closer like 4-5 inches away from plant

Get a bigger box and put some more cfl's in there and on the side... U could get close to an oz every harvest or 65 days

hiamhigh said:

Heller, first time post here, avid RIU visitor.


High quality soil/nutes from home depot.

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No. No such thing.
Get a $3 compressed brick of coco and beg the hydro store for a sample of grow nutes. (worry about your bloom nutes later)

hiamhigh said:

Heller, first time post here, avid RIU visitor.

A dixie cup with drainage holes (I will not transfer as I want to keep the plant small)

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Dude, just get a 1 or 2 gallon smart pot and a saucer to put under it. Fill it with the coco you got at the hydro store. (see above)

hiamhigh said:

Heller, first time post here, avid RIU visitor.

A nice feminized auto flower from a seed bank. (Not sure which yet, any ideas?)

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You need a clone from a friend. Then clone that clone. Take your micro-adult and grow your bonsai bud under your single bulb.

hiamhigh said:

Heller, first time post here, avid RIU visitor.

A 1 1/2 cubic ft cardboard box with reflectors all around it, i will NOT use aluminum foil

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Hey... UHaul sells a "wardrobe box" and you can get your imagination going from there.

hiamhigh said:

Heller, first time post here, avid RIU visitor.


High quality soil/nutes from home depot.
A 3,000 or so lumen [cfl??] (one light bulb)

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2-foot HO flourescents are your best bang for the dollar.

hiamhigh said:

Heller, first time post here, avid RIU visitor.

A small battery powered fan (handheld ones from amusement parks)

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Waste of time. Get a small fan or don't use one. Batteries aren't going to last a day.


Can you produce anything? Yes.
Will it be worth your time? Only you can answer that. You will likely learn more from it than you will ever produce from it.

WestDenverPioneer said:

No. No such thing.
Get a $3 compressed brick of coco and beg the hydro store for a sample of grow nutes. (worry about your bloom nutes later)



Dude, just get a 1 or 2 gallon smart pot and a saucer to put under it. Fill it with the coco you got at the hydro store. (see above)



You need a clone from a friend. Then clone that clone. Take your micro-adult and grow your bonsai bud under your single bulb.


Hey... UHaul sells a "wardrobe box" and you can get your imagination going from there.



2-foot HO flourescents are your best bang for the dollar.


Waste of time. Get a small fan or don't use one. Batteries aren't going to last a day.


Can you produce anything? Yes.
Will it be worth your time? Only you can answer that. You will likely learn more from it than you will ever produce from it.

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Thanks alot for all the good advice, ill look into it, but sadly i know no growers :/ and ultimately thats was my main goal, the experience and knowledge from growing. I already have loads of bud, but having your own personal baby that youve tended for since it was a wittle seed in your hand that needed you (and always will). Now thats a bond. Especially the first. Watching its stalk grow larger by day, as it grows stems, which grow the beautiful leaves and flowers..smelling its divine, ripe fragrance...*sighs*

This grow op must work.

go on youtube and check out some small cfl grows and something like stealth bucket grow, im doing my first grow with cfls in a 50 gallon tub with fans and the whole 9. good luck

• I like the idea of the wardrobe box. The taller the better to help with heat issues.
• Walmart sells a 6 inch fan for $10. These work great. Use it to pull air from top of box.
• Best to use a 2 gallon (#2) pot. I love the smart pots. Don't worry. Your auto will not get too big especially if you don't have a ton of light. Look at the lowrider 2 strain. It will probably only be 8-10 inches tall but reallly bushy and lots of buds. If you don't want to spend $ on a pot the plastic folgers coffee cans could work.
  
• The cheapest and most diversified way to use cfl's is to use the 26w (100 watt replacements). 3 or 4 of these per square foot should be good. Make sure your container is around 1 sqft of floor space. That's more than enough space for a 2 gall pot and auto.
  
• Make sure to paint the inside of the box flat white or use an emergency blanket (They're cheap) for lining. You will need to preserve as much light as possible.
• Rig a reflector using an aluminum turkey or baking pan. Paint it white for best results.
• To rig your lights you can buy the "y" splitters from Home depot. The best is to use a $10 clampable heat lamp/work lamp. Use one Y splitter coming out of the base then add 2 more Y's to the original Y. This gives you 4 sockets and it's clampable and hangs nicely. This lamp comes with a reflector. Use scissors or tin snips to slice it a bit so you can bend it outwards to effectively reflect lights.
  
• You will want to run a constant 18-20 hours all through the lifecycle of the plant. Autos don't do well with changes in light or changes in anything for that matter.
  
• Keep your grow space to around 1 sqft for every 3-4 cfls
• buy NEW cfls. Dont try to use old ones. GE makes a 6500k 26w cfl available in stores at walmart. In your 4th week switch these to 2700k.
• smell will be a problem. Walmart and Target have small (15$) carbon air purifiers with ionizers. This may work if your plant is not too stinky, The 45$ Holmes filters work great, but you need to fortify the filter with some carbon from the aquarium isle. I have a post on this somewhere. search for holmes filter. Read up on "negative pressure".
  
• If you use quality soil then you may not have to nute your auto at all. They are so compact and their veg cycle is so short that you don't need to worry about veg nutes. You may want a flowering nute. Use after week 4 but you could probably get away without using one.
• since you don't need much water, bottled water should do the trick. Spring water has a nice PH to it. Tap water will work depending on your water source, but it's not the best.
• don't skimp on the soil. Bad soil will make this a nightmare. (Ask me I know) Roots Organic or Fox Farms. Mayyybbbeee,, Miracle grow organic if you don't have a hydro store nearby. One good bag of soil will last many grows.
• Just about any product the box stores sell is shit for MMJ. I have a full box of shit gardening products from home depot. The rooting compound, the soil, the root stim, even the perlite sucks.
• Probably best to use a decent power strip to plug things into. I'm not sure about this, but it seems safer to me since they have a fuse. I still have to ask the forum about this one.
• Herbies headshop has been a good source of seeds for me.

People have grown autos by just setting them in a window. No nutes,no training, no nothing.. just water. The one I saw yielded 1/4 oz. It's on youtube.
Please be careful and I wish you the best of luck.

sunny747 said:

• I like the idea of the wardrobe box. The taller the better to help with heat issues.
• Walmart sells a 6 inch fan for $10. These work great. Use it to pull air from top of box.
• Best to use a 2 gallon (#2) pot. I love the smart pots. Don't worry. Your auto will not get too big especially if you don't have a ton of light. Look at the lowrider 2 strain. It will probably only be 8-10 inches tall but reallly bushy and lots of buds. If you don't want to spend $ on a pot the plastic folgers coffee cans could work.
  
• The cheapest and most diversified way to use cfl's is to use the 26w (100 watt replacements). 3 or 4 of these per square foot should be good. Make sure your container is around 1 sqft of floor space. That's more than enough space for a 2 gall pot and auto.
  
• Make sure to paint the inside of the box flat white or use an emergency blanket (They're cheap) for lining. You will need to preserve as much light as possible.
• Rig a reflector using an aluminum turkey or baking pan. Paint it white for best results.
• To rig your lights you can buy the "y" splitters from Home depot. The best is to use a $10 clampable heat lamp/work lamp. Use one Y splitter coming out of the base then add 2 more Y's to the original Y. This gives you 4 sockets and it's clampable and hangs nicely. This lamp comes with a reflector. Use scissors or tin snips to slice it a bit so you can bend it outwards to effectively reflect lights.
  
• You will want to run a constant 18-20 hours all through the lifecycle of the plant. Autos don't do well with changes in light or changes in anything for that matter.
  
• Keep your grow space to around 1 sqft for every 3-4 cfls
• buy NEW cfls. Dont try to use old ones. GE makes a 6500k 26w cfl available in stores at walmart. In your 4th week switch these to 2700k.
• smell will be a problem. Walmart and Target have small (15$) carbon air purifiers with ionizers. This may work if your plant is not too stinky, The 45$ Holmes filters work great, but you need to fortify the filter with some carbon from the aquarium isle. I have a post on this somewhere. search for holmes filter. Read up on "negative pressure".
  
• If you use quality soil then you may not have to nute your auto at all. They are so compact and their veg cycle is so short that you don't need to worry about veg nutes. You may want a flowering nute. Use after week 4 but you could probably get away without using one.
• since you don't need much water, bottled water should do the trick. Spring water has a nice PH to it. Tap water will work depending on your water source, but it's not the best.
• don't skimp on the soil. Bad soil will make this a nightmare. (Ask me I know) Roots Organic or Fox Farms. Mayyybbbeee,, Miracle grow organic if you don't have a hydro store nearby. One good bag of soil will last many grows.
• Just about any product the box stores sell is shit for MMJ. I have a full box of shit gardening products from home depot. The rooting compound, the soil, the root stim, even the perlite sucks.
• Probably best to use a decent power strip to plug things into. I'm not sure about this, but it seems safer to me since they have a fuse. I still have to ask the forum about this one.
• Herbies headshop has been a good source of seeds for me.

People have grown autos by just setting them in a window. No nutes,no training, no nothing.. just water. The one I saw yielded 1/4 oz. It's on youtube.
Please be careful and I wish you the best of luck.

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Thank you!! Great info but do you think miracle grow will work? I hear so much negative stigma about using it, and about the y sockets..if i keep 4 bulbs on for 20hrs a day will it noticeably increase my electric bill?

Marko_smokedout said:

go on youtube and check out some small cfl grows and something like stealth bucket grow, im doing my first grow with cfls in a 50 gallon tub with fans and the whole 9. good luck

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Thanks, you too man

hiamhigh said:

Thank you!! Great info but do you think miracle grow will work? I hear so much negative stigma about using it, and about the y sockets..if i keep 4 bulbs on for 20hrs a day will it noticeably increase my electric bill?

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I have seen grows with miracle gro organic mix. It works in a jam, but I would not recommend it for a real grow. However, you are just getting started and this seems like more of a fun project. I am not recommending this product though. I used Scotts Super soil on my first grow and had lots of ph problems and it didn't drain all that well.

3-4 26w bulbs will not increase your electric bill noticeably.. Make up for it by shutting off lights and especially TV's around your home. You can drop the lights down to 18 hours if you like. Your elec bill is normally estimated any ways so it may take time for the bill to reflect your usage. Large flatscreen tv's take the most energy in your home, next to the refrigerator. Just watch less tv. You could use 3 bulbs for veg and then add one more in the 4th - 8th weeks.

Check out "PC stealth grow boxes" Study how they are setup.
http://www.primogrowbox.com/

hiamhigh said:

Thanks, you too man

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no prop, this is what im working with might give u an idea. food for thought

Marko_smokedout said:

no prop, this is what im working with might give u an idea. food for thought

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Great little micro grow Marko!

hiamhigh said:

Thank you!! Great info but do you think miracle grow will work? I hear so much negative stigma about using it, and about the y sockets..if i keep 4 bulbs on for 20hrs a day will it noticeably increase my electric bill?

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You can easily do the math if you know you price per kilowatt. in my area its $0.17 USD/KwH (Kilowatt Hours)

1 KWH = 1,000 watts per hour.
4 CFL's at 23w/Bulb = 92 watts per hour.
Your average desk fan is 12w per hour
total is 104 watts per hour which = .104 KWH or 1/10/KWH
1.7 (round up) 2 cents and hour.
20hrs/day = $0.40 /day
30 days avg month is $12 a month.
now keep in mind this is only four lights and a fan, and thats if you turn your fan off with your lights


Hope I helped

sunny747 said:

Check out "PC stealth grow boxes" Study how they are setup.
http://www.primogrowbox.com/

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Ya i heard of those but idk where to get a hollow pc lol

JackHererSki said:

You can easily do the math if you know you price per kilowatt. in my area its $0.17 USD/KwH (Kilowatt Hours)

1 KWH = 1,000 watts per hour.
4 CFL's at 23w/Bulb = 92 watts per hour.
Your average desk fan is 12w per hour
total is 104 watts per hour which = .104 KWH or 1/10/KWH
1.7 (round up) 2 cents and hour.
20hrs/day = $0.40 /day
30 days avg month is $12 a month.
now keep in mind this is only four lights and a fan, and thats if you turn your fan off with your lights


Hope I helped

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Haha it really did!