Will Canada’s marijuana legalization alleviate the country’s opioid crisis?
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TheRealDman
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I suffer from neuropathic chronic pain, and can attest that Cannabis is a much better solution than opioids.
cannadan
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I can attest that the combo of opiates and mmj are some the best pain coverage/ synergistic relief that you can get.
mmj alone for me works but will not provide the deep relief. That being said...the somewhat "created" opiate crisis...
that is getting a fantastic amount of coverage in the news or papers or You tube etc...continues.
Lets face it most chronic pain patients, that actually take the medications,they are prescribed are not in any way contributing to the
Crisis...its clandestine labs and countries lax on their drug policy that are creating an opiate crisis....sure drugs that are analog of fentanyl
are responsible for a lot of these overdoses...but even more alarming is a large majority of the people who are overdosing are people who
were on pain meds for legitimate reasons,before this opiate crisis was identified and made public.
I too have neuro pain,for which ,mmj will be the only option in a month or two...so I guess I will see first hand..if mmj is going to be a viable solution,like a lot of the rest of the crowd here will a test to.
At least if mmj or mj itself becomes completely legal , people suffering the daily grind ,will have a quick to access to another option to
advocate for their own healthcare...
Options are good. restriction is bad.
mmj alone for me works but will not provide the deep relief. That being said...the somewhat "created" opiate crisis...
that is getting a fantastic amount of coverage in the news or papers or You tube etc...continues.
Lets face it most chronic pain patients, that actually take the medications,they are prescribed are not in any way contributing to the
Crisis...its clandestine labs and countries lax on their drug policy that are creating an opiate crisis....sure drugs that are analog of fentanyl
are responsible for a lot of these overdoses...but even more alarming is a large majority of the people who are overdosing are people who
were on pain meds for legitimate reasons,before this opiate crisis was identified and made public.
I too have neuro pain,for which ,mmj will be the only option in a month or two...so I guess I will see first hand..if mmj is going to be a viable solution,like a lot of the rest of the crowd here will a test to.
At least if mmj or mj itself becomes completely legal , people suffering the daily grind ,will have a quick to access to another option to
advocate for their own healthcare...
Options are good. restriction is bad.
cannadan
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cannabis can be the harder of the two... to manage....at times.
I will be honest and say my garden indoor or out can be a lot of work...also a lot of satisfaction too.
depends on the day.
One thing is for sure,,,,you can not rest on that last crop...even if its a bumper one...
once in storage...you gotta get back at it...
or be at it perpetually...to stay on top to supply yourself
I will be honest and say my garden indoor or out can be a lot of work...also a lot of satisfaction too.
depends on the day.
One thing is for sure,,,,you can not rest on that last crop...even if its a bumper one...
once in storage...you gotta get back at it...
or be at it perpetually...to stay on top to supply yourself
cannadan
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I just wish..I could take my own advise...because I keep running out....
of course being broken into and losing 5 pounds, or so, of fire quality meds.. don't help the situation....
plus for a couple months after the wife was still not comfortable with me growing again in this location....
I finally did a crop indoors thru the winter, but because the way HC divided the plant counts indoor to out...
my plant count/growing abilities I guess, are limiting factors and I was not able to fill my allowable storage...
and of course ran out.
By the time I did get the meds ,I grew, I had spent several thousand, into the black market...on 150 to 175 dollar ounces....
and since the little I grew, they ran out...I have spent a bunch more...
Plus not being able to overlapped indoor and outdoor means really all you have is maybe Oct. to May....means you have only enough time to do 2 crops indoors
if you are on top of things...
of course being broken into and losing 5 pounds, or so, of fire quality meds.. don't help the situation....
plus for a couple months after the wife was still not comfortable with me growing again in this location....
I finally did a crop indoors thru the winter, but because the way HC divided the plant counts indoor to out...
my plant count/growing abilities I guess, are limiting factors and I was not able to fill my allowable storage...
and of course ran out.
By the time I did get the meds ,I grew, I had spent several thousand, into the black market...on 150 to 175 dollar ounces....
and since the little I grew, they ran out...I have spent a bunch more...
Plus not being able to overlapped indoor and outdoor means really all you have is maybe Oct. to May....means you have only enough time to do 2 crops indoors
if you are on top of things...
GroErr
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Let's summarize:
- Opiod crisis (they just pulled the plug on an old buddy who couldn't get off oxy's, how many people have you known to go down this road, sick or not #$%!)
- Legal MJ
- 25% reduction in opioid related deaths
cannadan
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both have a place...but the approach taken, to just cut everyone off...more or less...
is barbaric...and maybe called for in a lot of cases....but what about those others....
should they just suffer along on 1/4 of the pain meds they were getting or in a lot of cases nothing...
until they can no longer continue....maybe a year or three...but then what...
opt out for bill C14 ?? find a heroin supply?
is barbaric...and maybe called for in a lot of cases....but what about those others....
should they just suffer along on 1/4 of the pain meds they were getting or in a lot of cases nothing...
until they can no longer continue....maybe a year or three...but then what...
opt out for bill C14 ?? find a heroin supply?
WHATFG
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I suffer everyday, but I'm clear headed so it balances out.
GroErr
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That's an interesting perspective which you don't hear often enough. I'd rather put up with some pain to avoid Pharma meds and be productive vs. being an addicted zombie.
cannadan
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Do you not find it wearing on you day after day? I don't think I remember what clear headed is.
That's where it gets me...and it effects my sleep... after month's of, none to little sleep.
I can no longer think like I could, mostly because of the pain clinic drugs, but I would not blame opiates exclusively,
but they are part of it.
In about two month's or so,depending on how the pain clinic drags this out, I will be off of everything again, so though I look forward to that
and some clear headed thought for sure....
cannadan
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you are seriously my hero. just saying.
I pulled for you the whole time you were coming off the massive dose, they had you on.
and I was also so ,so impressed how you, handled yourself ,when they tried to make you out
an addict... again just saying...
I can relate to your" fighting pain every day " comment.
I mean, the main bout for me was coming off years of fentanyl, and it happened more than a year ago now and frankly I did well and weaned off in 3 weeks
but they managed to plug the gap with an oxy habit , perc's and a slew of gaba related drugs.
but none of them has even touched the pain really.
the other thing is brain fog...I have multiple reasons for this, so they rarely take any time in trying to figure this shit out.
I have whats called "pump-head", from 7 hours on the heart /lung machine, which means pretty much everyday, for a couple of years after ,I would experience, a sort fog over my thinking and usually in late afternoon, when most are getting off work and planning some fun....I have been pretty much blahhhh-ed out for lack of a better term.
On top of pump head,was the fact a took a pretty huge shot to the head, from a 22' x 14" deep wood I joist, falling 12 feet.
and now add in a tonne of meds, and you will see where , I am at.
Mind you ,I have been kind of a sharp tack my whole life (if I do say so myself lol), and studied geology, originally and settled in structural engineering,
where i am at now...anyways I can still ace an IQ test etc, etc...but for me it feels like I have taken a 50 point drop in IQ from what I used to be like.
and its basically not fun
I pulled for you the whole time you were coming off the massive dose, they had you on.
and I was also so ,so impressed how you, handled yourself ,when they tried to make you out
an addict... again just saying...
I can relate to your" fighting pain every day " comment.
I mean, the main bout for me was coming off years of fentanyl, and it happened more than a year ago now and frankly I did well and weaned off in 3 weeks
but they managed to plug the gap with an oxy habit , perc's and a slew of gaba related drugs.
but none of them has even touched the pain really.
the other thing is brain fog...I have multiple reasons for this, so they rarely take any time in trying to figure this shit out.
I have whats called "pump-head", from 7 hours on the heart /lung machine, which means pretty much everyday, for a couple of years after ,I would experience, a sort fog over my thinking and usually in late afternoon, when most are getting off work and planning some fun....I have been pretty much blahhhh-ed out for lack of a better term.
On top of pump head,was the fact a took a pretty huge shot to the head, from a 22' x 14" deep wood I joist, falling 12 feet.
and now add in a tonne of meds, and you will see where , I am at.
Mind you ,I have been kind of a sharp tack my whole life (if I do say so myself lol), and studied geology, originally and settled in structural engineering,
where i am at now...anyways I can still ace an IQ test etc, etc...but for me it feels like I have taken a 50 point drop in IQ from what I used to be like.
and its basically not fun
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cannadan
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but barely...some days I feel at lot like "Dory"been known to outsmart the odd trout too eh
Man Hippy...no chance at missing the hook set on those babies..
withdrawal can suck huge too..
got plenty of that coming...and should be an old pro at it by now...
for me personally....its the weeks and month's following withdrawals...that are looming large...
zoic
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I know exactly what you mean. Now that my head is out of the pharma cloud and find I am much sharper and I play many games of Scrabble daily. My wife is my main opponent which keeps her mind sharp as well. It was so very frustrating to start a sentence and then just loose your train of thought completely.