Why does my bud look so good, but smells like hay? +rep

skizat123

Active Member
You know, the strain has a lot to do with this. Some strains just don't hold on to that skunky dankness compared to other strains. They can still taste good, be potent, and look awesome. Sour diesel for instance, which usually turns out fairly airy for me, I can dry for 2 days (75-80 F) jar it, let it swet for half a day, unjar it, and its ready the next day. Stems snap the smell is outrageous. Others are just different.
 

IndicaFatnHeavy

Active Member
lol.. this seems like kind of a good thing to me... shit wont reak in ur pocket and be a fuckin heat score like must dank shit..... but bad because dumb kinks gunna smell it..... and if it doesn't reak like my ass hole.. they gunna be ignorant and say its shit dope....

unno lol
 

Hemlock

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all bud is like that at first when it is drying and curing. if you want to get rid of it you need to cure your bud for at least 3 weeks (in my experience)

I'd go broke if i cured for 3 weeks...
1 weeks drying on screens 73-78 degrees and humity 45-50%, 3-4 days in the jar..and its GONE.....People love it and I get about 25-30 a z more than other growers
Not sayin your way is wrong just sayin how i do it.
 

kushkilla

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U guys are not allowing the bud to completely dry before jarring. And don't listen to people that tell you dry 2 or 3 days. There are many many intangable factors that contribute to dry time. Is the bud dense or airy? Are you harvesting whole plants, or cutting stems into buds before drying? Are you trimming leaves before drying? What is the high and low temp< the high and low humidity. What is the level of ventilation? Does the strain carry large stems through the buds? Thats not even the half of it dude. I too had those hay problems in the early going, the problem? Buds were not thouroghly dried and flushed of chlorophyll before jarring. This is the tried and true method that has worked for me. If single stems, cut the plant at the base of the soil. If a tree like structure, cut at the main stems of each branch. Hang dry this in the dark for 2 WEEKS MINIMUM. After 2 weeks buds feel dry to the touch. I now trim large fans and only insignificant smallers. All the good leaves will have curled around the buds. leave these as they are very resinous. let hang one more week. now trim from main stems into buds ready for the jar and seal for a week. they should feel more moist than they did before jarring. let them burb for a day (lid off) or put on screens or in a paper bag. Now you should be ready to smoke. Thats 4 weeks of drying and curing. If you want the best possible buds, it takes at least 3 weeks.
 

Shackleford.R

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read the first post, haven't lurked my way through the thread yet... so someone may have already said this. not sure what your experience is drying/curing (mine is zero) but my best guess about the smell is probably the paper bag! buds pick up aromas very easily, may have just picked up the aroma of brown paper sack, which is sort of dry/hay like

:peace:
Shack
 
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THseaman

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Dude, there is one reason and one reason only your bud lost its smell. IT DRIED TOO FAST IN AN ENVIRONMENT THAT WAS TOO WARM AND TOO DRY. PERIOD. You have to create a comfortable environment for your plants to dry in similar to that of your flower room. 70-79f w/50-55% humidity is optimum. I bet your dry room was 85f + w/low humidity, am I right? I see this all the time. "oh my plants only needed 2 days and they seemed dry enough to jar." Yeah that's b/c you roasted em!
 
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THseaman

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U guys are not allowing the bud to completely dry before jarring. And don't listen to people that tell you dry 2 or 3 days. There are many many intangable factors that contribute to dry time. Is the bud dense or airy? Are you harvesting whole plants, or cutting stems into buds before drying? Are you trimming leaves before drying? What is the high and low temp< the high and low humidity. What is the level of ventilation? Does the strain carry large stems through the buds? Thats not even the half of it dude. I too had those hay problems in the early going, the problem? Buds were not thouroghly dried and flushed of chlorophyll before jarring. This is the tried and true method that has worked for me. If single stems, cut the plant at the base of the soil. If a tree like structure, cut at the main stems of each branch. Hang dry this in the dark for 2 WEEKS MINIMUM. After 2 weeks buds feel dry to the touch. I now trim large fans and only insignificant smallers. All the good leaves will have curled around the buds. leave these as they are very resinous. let hang one more week. now trim from main stems into buds ready for the jar and seal for a week. they should feel more moist than they did before jarring. let them burb for a day (lid off) or put on screens or in a paper bag. Now you should be ready to smoke. Thats 4 weeks of drying and curing. If you want the best possible buds, it takes at least 3 weeks.
SUCH BAD ADVICE. Trimming after you dry is a pain in the ass and always results in a bad trim job.
 

anhedonia

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I throw a crop into my flower and herb dryer and it dries it in 4 days perfectly. Then into a glass jar burping and rotating buds 3-4 times daily.
 

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Marijuana

Manicuring, Drying, And Curing Marijuana



Right after all the plants have been harvested, it is time to manicure them. Manicuring is simply cutting off the leaves that were growing from the buds. Cut off all the leaves surrounding the bud, so that just the bud remains.

Work over a glass table or some kind of smooth flat surface. This will make it easy to collect all the material that has been cut away from the buds. It is lower in THC than the buds, but rather than throw it away, you can use it to make hash oil.

When manicuring the buds, use a pair of scissors with small blades (to reach hard to get leaves) that is comfortable on your hands. If you have a small crop, you can handle the plants with you bare hands. With a large crop, wear powder free latex gloves.

The latex gloves will collect trichome resin in a similar manner to the way live marijuana plants are rubbed to make hashish. The latex gloves have to be powder free or the powder will get mixed into the resin.

Do not touch anything other than the plants once you have put the gloves on. If you have to do something, remove the gloves you are wearing and put them in a plastic bag, prior to doing whatever it is that has to be done.

When finished, put on a pair of new gloves. Material on the first pair can be collected later. When you are finished manicuring all the plants, remove the gloves and place them in a plastic bag (to catch resin that drops off).

Put the plastic bag with the gloves in a freezer for 2-3 hours. The trichome resin can easily be peeled from the frozen latex gloves and consumed the same way you would use hashish.

If absolutely necessary, you can wait to manicure the buds. However, the job will take more time if you wait. Manicuring right after the plants are harvested will also speed the drying process.

Instead smoking marijuana directly after it is harvested and manicured, it is best to dry and cure it. Some new growers might be in such a rush to try the marijuana that they don't want to dry the crop, or they might be tempted to put buds in a microwave oven to dry them out.


Drying Marijuana After Harvest

You probably don't want to smoke marijuana that is harsh and bad tasting. If you do not take time to dry the bud, you will not get the best possible smell and taste your crop is capable of producing.

Proper drying and curing will also ensure maximum potency of the marijuana you have grown. Marijuana is not potent just after harvest. Some of the THC is in a non-psychoactive acidic form. Drying marijuana the right way will convert the non-psychoactive acidic compounds into psychoactive THC.

The area where the drying is done should be dark. Light and high temperatures (higher than about 80 degrees) will cause THC to break down into less desirable chemicals, this will lower the potency of the finished product.

A good way to dry the crop is to hang the buds upside-down by the stem, from some string or wire. The drying marijuana must have some circulation blowing over it at all times. A gentle breeze that circulates over all the plants is necessary.

A fan or two will circulate air within the drying room. Fans will aid in drying the plants evenly, and reducing the chances of mold. If mold starts and is allowed to grow, it might ruin all of your crop. Mold looks like white fuzz and has an odor that is unpleasant.

You will have to keep the temperature and humidity within a certain range for optimal results. Conditions should remain constantly somewhere within the following ranges, temperature should be between 65-75 degrees F, relative humidity should be between 45%-55%.

At temperatures lower than 65 degrees, drying time will be lengthened. At temperatures higher than 75 degrees, the heat will cause the outer portion of the bud to dry quicker than the inner part, and the taste will suffer.

At humidity levels lower than 45%, the marijuana will dry too fast and the taste will suffer. At humidity levels higher than 55%, the marijuana will take a long time to dry, and it will be prone to mold.

Keep a hygrometer and a thermometer in the drying area, close to the plants. A hygrometer will allow you to keep an eye on the relative humidity level in the room and a thermometer will display the temperature. Some hygrometers
have built in thermometers so you can measure the temperature and humidity together.

Depending on the time of year and your location, a heater or an air conditioner may be necessary to adjust the temperature. To control humidity, a dehumidifier can lower humidity and a humidifier can be used to raise humidity. There are warm mist humidifiers and cool mist humidifiers.

A warm mist humidifier will raise the temperature while a cool mist humidifier will not affect the temperature. There are also humidifiers that allow you to switch between warm or cool mist. If you are going to purchase a humidifier for this purpose, take your climate into consideration and buy an appropriate humidifier.

Warm mist models will actually heat the water and release warm humidity. Cool mist water isn't cooled, it just means that water is not heated. In most cases a cool mist will work best. To be safe you can get a humidifier that lets you switch between warm and cool mist.


Curing Marijuana

It will take at least a week or two to dry the crop with temperatures between 65-75 degrees F and relative humidity between 45%-55%. You will know when the marijuana is dry if the stems snap or break (rather than fold) when they are bent. Try smoking a small bud (1/2 gram or less) in a joint to be sure it is dry enough.

At this time, small buds will be dry enough to smoke. But larger buds should be cured (slow dried) to ensure that the marijuana is as potent and tasty as possible. If necessary, you can set aside buds that are less than 1/2 gram for smoking, while larger buds cure.

The cure lasts a week or two. The aim of what you are doing is evenly finishing the slow dry process, so that mold will not grow when the buds are stored long term. Also, by the end of the cure, any remaining inactive THC will be converted to active THC (that increases potency).

To cure the crop, you will need one or more containers made out of glass or plastic. Some people say plastic can impart a taste to the marijuana. Personally, plastic containers that some types of roll your own tobacco are sold in, have no negative effect on the taste.

Containers that have a rubber seal work best, but any type of container with a tight fitting lid will do. One quart canning jars do a very good job if you are curing a few pounds or less. They have a rubber seal and hold 2 or more ounces of marijuana per one quart jar.

When curing quantities in excess of a few pounds, large (over 40 quarts) plastic storage boxes
are recommended. They are not air tight, but will do the job when smaller air tight containers are not practical.

Gently place your marijuana in the containers (cut buds to size if the are too big to fit in the container) and put the top on. Store the containers in a dark area where the temperature is between 50-65 degrees and the humidity is between 40%-60%.

You will have to open the containers for a few minutes to allow moisture to escape by fanning with your hand. If any moisture builds up on the inside of the cap on your container, wipe it off. Do this preferably 2-6 times daily, at regular 4-12 hour intervals.

You should also re-arrange the buds by giving them a quarter-turn once a day. This will ensure that different parts of the buds are exposed to the air in the container. Keep up this routine for 7-10 days. When properly dried, marijuana will burn evenly when smoked in a joint (if stems are removed).

The taste will be as good as it can be, and the THC will have reached a point where it is ready to be ingested or stored. You can keep any marijuana that will be consumed within a few months (1 year maximum) in the same containers used for curing, without having to keep opening them to release moisture.

If the marijuana is to be stored for more than a few months, you can use a vacuum sealer (designed for storing food) to seal the marijuana in an airtight environment. If stored in a dark area that is between 40-55 degrees F, the marijuana in vacuum sealed plastic will remain potent for up to 5 years.

Dry marijuana can be stored in a frost-free freezer, but some of the THC on the outer part of the buds may be damaged when frozen. A refrigerator is in the right temperature range but they tend to be humid (unless you can control the humidity).

If stored in an area of high humidity for months or years, even vacuum sealed marijuana can eventually become as humid as the surrounding air. This will necessitate drying it again before smoking. But, unless mold develops, humidity itself will not degrade the THC or make the marijuana any less potent.

Light will degrade some of the THC, so dark containers can be used for storage. If you place the marijuana in a see through container, it will have to be located in a dark area that is not exposed to light or high temperatures.
Always make sure to properly dry your marijuana prior to storage, if you grow your own or if the stuff you have is very moist. And remember that to preserve marijuana potency at a maximum level, keep any exposure to air, heat, and light at a minimum.
 

Brick Top

New Member

That got me too. I tend to believe the site has a redirect problem but the info can also be found at a number of different sites.

When I first found the site and bookmarked it so I could easily find it if and when needed the address was different so I think at some point someone has played games with the sites address, as I said likely someone attempting to pull a redirect.

Either way the information is 100% spot on. Between much reading and 37 years of experience I know the info found there is totally accurate.
 

justsmoking

Active Member
I grew some querkle from clones bought from oaksterdam nursery.Smelt awsome during flower. Dried for about 4 days before putting it into paper bags for a few more days then into jars. they were in jars for about a week and a half and smelt like pot, but not really chronic. the bud was still pretty wet stems still bendy, supre sticky etc. so I put it into paper bags again for about 6 hours then back into jars. It has been about 4 days since then (and about 16 days total in jars) now the bud has pretty much no smell, and if anything smells kinda like hay. It looks like Chronic though, covered in crystals etc. it looks like something out of high times but smells like junk. where did I go wrong?
Without a proper cureing period the bud will smell and tast like hay
 

chronicdice88

Well-Known Member
best cure method: dry till stems snap, jar it up and BURY IT! no joke forget about it.. dig it up in a month or two or whenever you want.. like fine wine it gets better with age (just make sure you dont put super wet chronic in the jars .. that = mold) ..

i knew a guy who did that with and old pickle jar and he forgot to wash it out and it tasted like bomb dill chronic after 6 months.. ;) yeeee
 

tomato worm

Member
Unfortunately, I think a "growing" trend for breeders is to "weed" out the odor, while keeping/increasing the potency. (puns intended)

I dont buy/smoke like I used to, but every so often I check out the newest stuff my buddies have... It seems that every year shit looks dankier and dankier, but smells less and less.
:-?
 
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