whitebb2727
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I think olive gets it.
We all agree on most of it.
I think it is a combo of slight difference of opinion mixed with some communication errors.
Its all good.
Why do you newbs always grow auto's?
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We all agree on most of it.
I think it is a combo of slight difference of opinion mixed with some communication errors.
Its all good.
Special Kdog
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I'm a newb. first grow was fem C99 seeds... i currently am running a Think Different auto 62 days in. she's getting close to harvest. its cupcake and superstealth... i tried a little LST on it... not sure if it hurt or helped. pretty sure it was the pot (3gallon) that is limiting me to what looks like it will be maybe hopefully 3 zips.. i'm using 24 hour light cycle with about a daily 3 hour break. i'm running a little loose so i missed giving her a break a couple of times... i got 47 other things going on and i wish i could spend more time and have a garden but good lord this is easy and all i have is a closet and a strain that doesn't give a fuck about fuck and only about growing into pretty fucking awesome herb and this is all i needed to grow it g8 240 watt LED light, some Fox farm soil, some bloom nutes, and water. This is why we "newbs" grow fucking autos.. are you fucking stupid? its a risk reward tradeoff. many of us "newbs" have a fucking day job and live in a stupid fucking state.... Imagine how crazy this rant would be if i was waiting for 4 months instead of 2. this blog is really like sitting in a starbucks listening to hipsters arguing about whether somalian coffee or hawaiian coffee is better. you are in a facking starbucks man. step outside into the rest of the world where people have different circumstances and have heard differing opinions and want to give a run at a few different thinks... literally you need to Think Different. nice pun right amarite?
Joedank
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so there are some FARMS in spain that got busted with 20000 AUTO's inbetween the olives/citrus . i guess to garuntee a harvey before the olives/citrus is done ? i could not belive it till i read it
CrocodileStunter
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I thought it was dope you're getting that kinda yield off auto's but you're a kook. LMFAO @ popping seeds then selling them as such and such strain ( or you just make a name up). Keepers are rare as fuck. that next level weed is friggin rare you have to run numbers for a long as time to find that plant that is a knock out. Maybe this is why all the weed I see around is rarely all that good. Clones are the fastest way to produce. You've already said it autos don't have much in the terpene department. The market doesn't want that bland ass weed. I don't get that part where you're talking about rec smokers only care about smell and taste. and that medical smokers care about terpene content. What the fuck do you think makes the flavor? woooooow. The amount of horrible info passed by people on here is t an all time high. but what do i care keep doing it your way. I can't get over that you're selling weed that is a complete unknown n how the genetics stacked up. People need to realize every plant aint great. More of that goofy shit on riu!
Olive Drab Green
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The poor fool didn't even know pure indicas and sativas exist. Thought everything was a hybrid. I'm more ashamed of myself for continuing the argument for so long. Regardless, I'm not trying to shit on him, I'm trying to help. Just doesn't seem prudent anymore.
GrowerGoneWild
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Its not about hipster coolness of autoflowers its a logical conclusion of photoperiod strains for experienced growers.
Harder to duplicate C. ruderalis. This makes you a slave to the seebank or you'll be tossing pollen to make seeds. In real life I can give a person 1 clone and they NEVER have to go back to a seedbank again. I was gifted 1 clone of Girl Scout Cookies a few years ago I still take cuttings from her to this day. So I have a stable gene to work with.
If you ran a perpetual harvest you can rotate in a plant into bloom every 2 weeks, So you will be constantly harvesting. This applies to photoperiod plants or autoflowers.
Clever marketing has you brainwashed.
Cannacat
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Always.
I really think the whole thing was a massive misunderstanding that got bigger and more cloudy with every effort to clear it up!
Michael Huntherz
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Threads on this site are often teetering on the edge of a shit-knife. That's what makes it fun.
Cannacat
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You're not kidding.... Seems everyday somebody's descending into a nervous breakdown round here. Makes me feel much better about my own neuroses though
Chunky Stool
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Could it be that these outbursts of emotion are related to heavy marijuana use???You're not kidding.... Seems everyday somebody's descending into a nervous breakdown round here. Makes me feel much better about my own neuroses though
I'm still trying to find balance. If I consume zero cannabis, I get way too intense. If I consume a lot, I get apathetic w/occasional outbursts of anger.
Maybe I'm just nuts...
Olive Drab Green
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Oh, God, don't you start now, too.
Cannacat
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Definitely! I'm an emotional, hormonal wreck, I think I have too much empathy or something; smoking weed levels me off a bit and makes everything less overwhelming but then there's days where I get shite all done and I think maybe I need to cut down. Then I go to bed without having smoked, do a sleepless night, and get back on the weed!
Bbcchance
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I personally quit smoking for a solid 2 weeks before I chop a crop, gotta start timing these runs better lolol
Atulip
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I run autos for speed and yield. 24/0 lighting is a tiny electrical cost increase over 12/12.(+$50/m2 per 12 weeks) And I've only had one plant push past 12 so far. 12 weeks is the point where I'd say SoG clones should perform as fast. (2 week root, 2 week veg, 8 week flower) Yield is better than any photoperiods I've ever ran.
I agree that clones make for consistency, and that's what most commercial operations want, but for home growing, autos are gonna get the fastest biggest bud.
This is a 4oz Dinafem critical+ auto. My biggest square foot yield, but she pushed past 12 weeks.(96 day seed to weed, 1045g/m2)
I dropped to giving them half a square foot for a consistent 1-2oz per plant. (500-1000g/m2) single 2.5'x5' tent, 21 pots, 28 counting seedling pots. Current average 754g/m2, 1.63g/w.(based on 21 plants) Organically grown bud, I expect a dialed in hydro grower to see bigger returns.
Seed cost is minimal here at around $5 per (mephisto genetics), since this is LOS, entire maintenance cost is under $15 per plant(electricity, soil, seed). They're also on a perlite wick bed, so even the labor is minimal.
For personal growing, it's hard to argue against autos, just as potent, more bud in less time.
I agree that clones make for consistency, and that's what most commercial operations want, but for home growing, autos are gonna get the fastest biggest bud.
This is a 4oz Dinafem critical+ auto. My biggest square foot yield, but she pushed past 12 weeks.(96 day seed to weed, 1045g/m2)
I dropped to giving them half a square foot for a consistent 1-2oz per plant. (500-1000g/m2) single 2.5'x5' tent, 21 pots, 28 counting seedling pots. Current average 754g/m2, 1.63g/w.(based on 21 plants) Organically grown bud, I expect a dialed in hydro grower to see bigger returns.
Seed cost is minimal here at around $5 per (mephisto genetics), since this is LOS, entire maintenance cost is under $15 per plant(electricity, soil, seed). They're also on a perlite wick bed, so even the labor is minimal.
For personal growing, it's hard to argue against autos, just as potent, more bud in less time.
Atulip
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A lot more if you're going for extracts. Between these 2(last week's harvest), 3 oz of top bud, over 2oz of lowers and trim. That's 5oz of frost covered plant material from about a sq ft of grow space.
I can only speak for my personal experience, but I no longer grow photoperiods.
I can only speak for my personal experience, but I no longer grow photoperiods.
Cannacat
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Ooh you've got the Heisenberg Special! I have 3 seedlings I popped in jiffy plugs, potted up in 5 gallon smart pots with coco & perlite. Any tips? How did it do for you? I've never grown autos before or plants from seed so it's all kind of guesswork at this point.
Heisenberg nug looks great, but your claiming those plants have 5oz of bud on each?
I've grown many 3-5oz plants and those are smaller+less branches than my 3oz plants...
Maybe they've eliminated most of the ruderalis in those strains, but some of your pictures remind me of the leafy ruderalis genes that I hate.
I've grown many 3-5oz plants and those are smaller+less branches than my 3oz plants...
Maybe they've eliminated most of the ruderalis in those strains, but some of your pictures remind me of the leafy ruderalis genes that I hate.
Atulip
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Grew great and was dripping in frost by the end. I gave her a basic lollipop and heavy defol. The pot is about 4 actual gallons, 8" square, to pack more pots in my tent. She had a lovely structure and yielded 52.4g of frost dipped bud. A big lady, 28" tall iirc.
I don't know about rosin, just regular butter and tinctures made here. And those 2 plants were 58g and 32g of bud currently at 65% And a quart jar and a pint of frosty trim and lower buds. Together they were 5+ oz of total plant material(3+ oz bud) in a square foot of grow space. Personally I smoke the lower buds and trim myself. Gets me just as high just doesn't look as pretty as a tight top nug.
