why did your god create a sun that will soon burn out ?

You've clearly spent too much time reading the wrong book. How can you bring up pyramids as an argument and know nothing about it? They aren't built by slaves... more desert fairytale nonsense intended merely to keep sand out of vaginas.

hydroMD said:

I would argue that if someone is experiencing something, that it is real.

Are the experiences by someone who just tried DMT unreal? Just because its an individual experience doesnt make it less real... if it has a lasting affect on the persin, its just as real as falling down a flight of stairs

And with such a closed mind to one side of the argument, its hard to get around your obvious bias on the subject.


Be as literal as you like, but god works in mysterious ways.

You cant tell me what im feeling is *god like* not god, because its evident you havent opened your mind and heart to accept what it is I consider god.

Dont get caught up on the stuff you cant understand... take what good you can from it and start building

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I would say, it is you who are closed minded.

You didn't know I have been in constant meditation practice, for the last 40 years and more.

I have moved well beyond these petty earthy definitions of Otherness.

Doer said:

I would say, it is you who are closed minded.
You didn't know I have been in constant meditation practice, for the last 40 years and more.
I have moved well beyond these petty earthy definitions of Otherness.

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you're kidding, right? what does meditation have to do with anything? don't mean to sound like a richard, but i don't see your point....

ha...a richard...haha

mudminer said:

ha...a richard...haha

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code word, lol...

Silky Shagsalot said:

a richard

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Google, define "a richard".

...

http://www.todayifoundout.com/index.php/2012/04/how-dick-came-to-be-short-for-richard/

Oh, doh..

Carry on, nothing to see here.

Sativied said:

Google, define "a richard".http://www.todayifoundout.com/index.php/2012/04/how-dick-came-to-be-short-for-richard/ Oh, doh..Carry on, nothing to see here.

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nice link info.

code word "richard". copy that, 10-4, over-under. thx fer that. will def be using it. u don't hold a copyright on it do u? lol

mudminer said:

code word "richard". copy that, 10-4, over-under. thx fer that. will def be using it. u don't hold a copyright on it do u? lol

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no i have no rights, lol. one thing i love about english (and why it's a difficult language to master,") sooo many slang words...

Sativied said:

How much?

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How much what?

~PEACE~

ayr0n said:

Rather than focusing on scientific inventions - since they require...you know...science - you could always just start a religion. Could be the next L. Ron Hubbard or even a Jesus of sorts...

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I am going to try and publish My book, its an autobiography, science fiction, fantasy, and spiritual book.

I never want to be a cult leader. I would like to be an inspiration to everyone. I would like to be a guiding force.

Lets see what happens when I write My book, and I will take it one step at a time.

~PEACE~

Nevaeh420 said:

I am going to try and publish My book, its an autobiography, science fiction, fantasy, and spiritual book.

I never want to be a cult leader. I would like to be an inspiration to everyone. I would like to be a guiding force.

Lets see what happens when I write My book, and I will take it one step at a time.

~PEACE~

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lol, said jim jones....

Silky Shagsalot said:

lol, said jim jones....

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No, My Name is not "Jim Jones".

My Name is "George Manuel Oliveira".

I don't know much about Jim Jones, except he was a cult leader. I am not a cult leader.

I don't want any disciples or followers. I just want witnesses and advocates. I want to be known, but I don't want a cult or a following.

I guess, in the end, it doesn't matter much; we are all going to die when our heart stops beating, and we take our last breath.

I want to be known as a godly influence, but everything is futility.

~PEACE~

Silky Shagsalot said:

you're kidding, right? what does meditation have to do with anything? don't mean to sound like a richard, but i don't see your point....

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It just means you have never practiced meditation. Of course, you have no idea, how meditation rinses out the sense of other, about God.

How could you?

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It just means you have never practiced meditation. Of course, you have no idea, how meditation rinses out the sense of other, about God.


How could you?

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Some of the most religious people on earth use meditation...

Some of which dedicate their entire lives to it...

For you to automatically assume you are any more spiritually advanced because you have practiced controlling your thoughts over time seems like a very juvinile thought. Arrogant even.

No way you can argue that meditation is anti religious with any actual validity. Its been used in religion throughout the course of history.

With all that meditation you practice, id think you might be a little more open to things...

No one said I was more "spiritually advanced," except you.

No one said anti-religion, except you.

You seem to reject Oneness.

The main thing is...you don't. So, if you do, for years at it, as I have, things seem quite different, is all.

It's not advanced in any way. I is just Knowledge of Self.

To say advanced is just more hierarchy and leads away from Oneness. Likewise, to judge another as arrogant may lead away from Oneness.

Religions are very judgmental, don't cha' know? They crave Otherness and damn us if we don't.

Nevaeh420 said:

How much what?

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You could care less.

Doer said:

The main thing is...you don't. So, if you do, for years at it, as I have, things seem quite different, is all.

It's not advanced in any way. I is just Knowledge of Self.

To say advanced is just more hierarchy and leads away from Oneness. Likewise, to judge another as arrogant may lead away from Oneness.

Religions are very judgmental, don't cha' know? They crave Otherness and damn us if we don't.

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Sorry, i guess i misinterpretted what you said.

And sir, I use meditation in my life as well. Coupled with my beliefs i have found it a profound tool in my own self actualization.

I guess if you could explain to me how somebody cannot live a life of devine simplicity "oneness" and still believe in a religion, I would appreciate that incite. Because I have done both for years.

!!!A religion cannot judge anyone, or anything!!!

Only people can.

My religion actually teaches not to pass judgement, as i believe do many.


If you have studied meditation for so long, I hope you have found some elightenment. What you should know is there are many forms of enlightenment, as well as paths to reach it.

With you being so self aware and down with the 'oneness' I would hope you could see that practicing religion, is indeed, a form of meditation. It is a proven path to enlightenment.


Religion causes war all over the world, people do crazy things in the name of it, but religiin itself preaches acceptance, forgiveness & love. Nothing about bombing buildings, religious wars, etc etc

Just because people do things in the name of religion, does not mean religion is behind it. In fact, if the most extreme religious grouos in the world actually practiced what they say they are fighting for, they would be non issue.