WHO'S HAVING SUCCESS WITH MONSTER CROPPING?

Labs Dexter said:

Jacks or mammoth one of you two said count the flowering days from when the preflower shows.... I think, anyway I am going to follow that rule because it's week 7 next week and afghani looks like week 3 or 4 so another four weeks or less and maybe.... Maybe she will be ready lool but yeah it's easier counting that way because less worries and stress because you are counting right

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I read somewhere a few months ago that the amount of days flowering that the seed company says, like this strain is a 56 day flowerer, they are saying 56 days from the day you flip to 12/12. So going from that, adjust for any limiting factors the grow experienced and tack on however many days you must. I was letting most of my 56 day strains go 63-68 days until after so many crops i realized the more and more dialed i got it the closer they were ready to that 56 day mark. Never noticed a big enough difference in yield by letting them go an extra 10 days either to make it worth running the lights and equipment for 10 more days. So now when im running a 56 day strain I'm checking those trichs religiously from day 52 on and usually notice degradation taking place at day 60. Of course there are many strains out there, ive only grown maybe 40 or so different ones in 6 years. So take with a grain of salt

Yeah I guess lol, I think with this one maybe the stress factors from beginning to end I starved and trimmed her to bits and a very bad case of phosphorus deff. Never had this issue before every other one I grew was fine I had full true flower by day 7- 12

Labs Dexter said:

6 weeks now week 7 on Tuesday View attachment 3513844
I have managed to get some deep cheese clones jack and they are on day 3 but non monster crop.

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your plant looks great and its good you took some clones

here's a good link on when to havest the plants and what to look out for

here my EMC plants 24 days in veg, I have removed a few fan leaves and lst the plants so the canopy is level.

jacksthc said:

your plant looks great and its good you took some clones

here's a good link on when to havest the plants and what to look out for

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Thanks again buddy

I started using buddy by vitalink for the past three watering and she is finally taking better shape still long but by the way its going looks like worth the wait it's week 7.2 on 12/12

she looking great, keep up the good work

Anyways wanted to post some pics of my clones taken 2- 2.5 weeks into flowering first off it took about good 3 weeks to root during this time plants went from nice looking cuttings to shit looking cuttings 9 cuttings taken all 9 rooted only want 3 so culled the rest this is only taken to keep strain , thes will be grown indoor and in veg until next may when they go out door so these should be fucking monsters first picture are about 1 week since taking cuttings others rooted and transplanted with first feeding
note looks like its going to be couple weeks before they start looking healthy again my guess is it will take approx 4 - 5 weeks before she really starts growing

What did you use to make clones as in is it peat or the root riot please... I'm trying to master cloning

mg seedling starter mix

Darth Vapour said:

Anyways wanted to post some pics of my clones taken 2- 2.5 weeks into flowering first off it took about good 3 weeks to root during this time plants went from nice looking cuttings to shit looking cuttings 9 cuttings taken all 9 rooted only want 3 so culled the rest this is only taken to keep strain , thes will be grown indoor and in veg until next may when they go out door so these should be fucking monsters first picture are about 1 week since taking cuttings others rooted and transplanted with first feeding
note looks like its going to be couple weeks before they start looking healthy again my guess is it will take approx 4 - 5 weeks before she really starts growing
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They look good fellow.
when did you take the clones in flower ( from when you switch the lights over to flower 12/12).
I do love monster cropping but it takes a long time and I just don't have the space to veg plants for 3 mouths ( as I only have one flower room, small veg room and grow perpetual )
would be great if you keep the updates going so we can see how they turn out.
keep up the good work mate

2 1/2 weeks in
it was mentioned by someone that taking cuttings from a flowering plant would be faster then germinating a seed so it was said will post pictures today there about 5 weeks old now clones and still growing at a crawl will post comparison seedling would be pretty close to sexing and growing wild "_ "
TBH there is no comparison seedling Will destroy monster cropped clone in growth rates.. i mean non of this one week in BS clone i mean cloning a real flowering plant

Darth Vapour said:

2 1/2 weeks in
it was mentioned by someone that taking cuttings from a flowering plant would be faster then germinating a seed so it was said will post pictures today there about 5 weeks old now clones and still growing at a crawl will post comparison seedling would be pretty close to sexing and growing wild "_ "
TBH there is no comparison seedling Will destroy monster cropped clone in growth rates.. i mean non of this one week in BS clone i mean cloning a real flowering plant

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EDIT plants germinated from seed should grow quicker than a re vegged clone taken 3 week
in flower


Yer somone asked for help with cloning from a flowering plant and it has new growth in less than 10 days (looks very heathy)
it was taken early in flower.

My 6 emc plants where all rooted by the 13th day and the first clone took 9 days to root.



The first thing I would do if i was going to take clones in flower (monster crop) and wanted them to root and grow quick.

Find some clones with heathy green fan leaves and small undeveloped bud sites at the lower part of the canopy with thick green healthy stem.

Cut most the undeveloped bud sites off and cut a small young bud site in half near the top of the clone, it will take a lot less time to re veg.

You have picked some clones with a full long buds, these are going to take a very long time to re veg if they make it.

there rooted an sure they will make it ,, i think people get confused i mean i have cloned 100,000 of times and like you say up to second week of flower from lower parts of plants ( THese clones were from lower part of plant lol )
I Normally clone last week and into second week of flower having good 700 + clones going at all times
but the confusion is even talking clones into second week of flower lower sites ??? is that they will root an grow normal so in a sense they are not monster crop clones where as iyou have bud set happening and take clones those will bush out and grow fucked up for some time hence the slow rate
like the ones i got this is true Monster cropping not taking lower clones that have 0 bud set they will in fact root and grow normal .. know what i mean ??

yer I know what you mean.

Removing all the buds at this point will encourage the plant to go back to the vegetative state but not the flower on the apex
cutting top bud site in half will encourage the plant to go back to the vegetative state and cause the bud site to react like fimming a node
messes the bud up and you get lots of shoots

The older and larger the bud site is the longer its going to take to reveg

undeveloped bud site with a few bud leaves will still give you the same results, just takes less time ( the bud leaves die and the plant fuckes up for a few weeks)

talking about EMC is about taking cutting where the buds have started to grow but there not any bud leaves (or there very small)
just gives you a few cluster of shoots

Sure cut the plant up to induce more stress like that makes sense ??? sorry nope i tend to let it go let mother nature deal with it ,, again i will leave this plant be untouched and we will see what comes of it .. it really was to only keep the strain with normal training of a plant it will infact out yield a monster crop plant any day of the week ,
with out skipping a beat

That's a very nice plant grown outside, problem is fellow you can't compair outdoor to indoor plants.
Indoor plants is all about canopy shape, environment and the light used for flower

when you reveg a plant, the plant has to get rid of all the bud sites before it can start growing normal again

jacksthc said:

force flower is where you take a cutting or put plant plant in flower just long enough to tell the sex

EMC is where you take a cutting or re veg a plant that has just started to form bud sites in true flower (10 -14 white hairs )
then you top the plant in early veg.

good example of my EMC plant in mid veg
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monster crop is where you let a plant flower (true flower) and remove a shoot with a bud site and re veg it

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I think the proper terminology for this is 'regenerative cloning'
Monster cropping is a street name for the process.

I've have done this several times and it does get more top colas from my experience, but the colas never filled out as wide as the original plants.
The weights over all when dried were very similar, slightly up on RG over original plants, but not significantly.

It is a big help in my opinion to be able to take clones from flowering plants and get them ready for planting straight after harvest. But from my experience the plants loose their growth and vigour when this is done to the same plants over a number of grows.

I had a northern lights plant about 14 years back that I flowered, harvested and the revegged it over and over.. Just in soil and hps as I wanted to see what would happen overtime..
It gave me decent results each harvest, and after about 2 years the plant grew strong bark around the main and lower stems.
Between the 3-4 year mark the plant literally started falling apart, splitting along the stems and whole branches just snapping of, the inside if the plant was thick dense and resembled a wood like body.
I cut her down then.

I hope this is useful to someone who has not done this but was curious as to what would happen if you try an keep a plant going.

The Nine said:

I think the proper terminology for this is 'regenerative cloning'
Monster cropping is a street name for the process.

I've have done this several times and it does get more top colas from my experience, but the colas never filled out as wide as the original plants.
The weights over all when dried were very similar, slightly up on RG over original plants, but not significantly.

It is a big help in my opinion to be able to take clones from flowering plants and get them ready for planting straight after harvest. But from my experience the plants loose their growth and vigour when this is done to the same plants over a number of grows.

I had a northern lights plant about 14 years back that I flowered, harvested and the revegged it over and over.. Just in soil and hps as I wanted to see what would happen overtime..
It gave me decent results each harvest, and after about 2 years the plant grew strong bark around the main and lower stems.
Between the 3-4 year mark the plant literally started falling apart, splitting along the stems and whole branches just snapping of, the inside if the plant was thick dense and resembled a wood like body.
I cut her down then.

I hope this is useful to someone who has not done this but was curious as to what would happen if you try an keep a plant going.

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this great information and will help me alot, thanks

My plants are 9 days in flower



and have not streched and they are very bushy