Whos got the best foliage spray

since1991

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How does humidity cause carbon filters to "leak smells"?
Are you saying it will leak immediately, or are you saying brief periods of high humidity shorten the life of the filter?
High humidity makes the charcoal less effective in scrubbing stinky smelly air. The "activated" part of activated charcoal is bascially non-activated. Thankfully most growers know that cool dry air is what is needed in the flowering room.
 

Chunky Stool

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High humidity makes the charcoal less effective in scrubbing stinky smelly air. The "activated" part of activated charcoal is bascially non-activated. Thankfully most growers know that cool dry air is what is needed in the flowering room.
Sustained high humidity would be a problem for sure. I just don't understand how occasional foliar feeding in a tent would have any effect. Completely soaking the leaves isn't necessary; light misting works fine.
 

since1991

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Sustained high humidity would be a problem for sure. I just don't understand how occasional foliar feeding in a tent would have any effect. Completely soaking the leaves isn't necessary; light misting works fine.
Yes a light misting works fine. And it spikes humidity a smidge but its so small and sporadic that its not anything to be worried about. My veg and bloom rooms are so tightly monitored amd controlled I notice a slight spike in humidity when I feed. Especailly when i use my watering wand. Or if iam in my rooms for any length of time...temps and humidity bump up. Have you ever seen a co2 ppm monitor after being in a co2 room? Amazing what the human body gives off.
 

Psyphish

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How does humidity cause carbon filters to "leak smells"?
Are you saying it will leak immediately, or are you saying brief periods of high humidity shorten the life of the filter?
I've read high humidity can lower carbon filter performance. I haven't experienced that myself, but I don't want to take chances... anymore.

I used to spray the plants in my tents, but after getting busted for smells I'm not taking any more chances with anything. And I stopped foliars simply because it wasn't worth the effort, noticed no difference.
 
I've read high humidity can lower carbon filter performance. I haven't experienced that myself, but I don't want to take chances... anymore.

I used to spray the plants in my tents, but after getting busted for smells I'm not taking any more chances with anything. And I stopped foliars simply because it wasn't worth the effort, noticed no difference.
Not sure where ya read that but humidity has zero effect on a carbon filter unless your humidity is 100. Even then it will work. Air conditioners have the biggest impact on carbon filters. Co2 machines as well. The problem is and i see this a lot people scrub the air and wonder why they cant maintain the right Co2 ppm. Ummm cuz you are running a filter 24/7
 

since1991

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Not sure where ya read that but humidity has zero effect on a carbon filter unless your humidity is 100. Even then it will work. Air conditioners have the biggest impact on carbon filters. Co2 machines as well. The problem is and i see this a lot people scrub the air and wonder why they cant maintain the right Co2 ppm. Ummm cuz you are running a filter 24/7
Alot of growers run scrubbers and a fan to scrub and recirculate co2 air in SEALED rooms. No venting to outside. And yes..absolutely...moist humid air (its all relative now isnt it ???) decreases the effectiveness of activated charcoal filters. And exactly how do air conditioners impact the effectiveness of scrubbers? If anything an a.c. unit makes them work even better seeing how a.c. units decrease humidity.
 

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Chunky Stool

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Cool little gadget. I like the 360 degree sprayers with the upturned nozzle for spraying leaf undersides. Conventional hand held bottle sprayers are pretty useless when you turn them upside down.
They make some that work upside down. I've got one, if I can find it...
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Unfortunately, the design still isn't perfect for spraying the undersides of leaves.
There's some type of valve at the top of the stem which allows fluid to pass if the bottle is inverted, and does not allow air when the bottle is upright. Unfortunately the best position for spraying the undersides of leaves is with the bottle parallel to the floor, and the transition between top & bottom causes bubbles in the line.
Still works, but not as well as I had hoped. :?
 
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since1991

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They make some that work upside down. I've got one, if I can find it...
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Unfortunately, the design still isn't perfect for spraying the undersides of leaves.
There's some type of valve at the top of the stem which allows fluid to pass if the bottle is inverted, and does not allow air when the bottle is upright. Unfortunately the best position for spraying the undersides of leaves is with the bottle parallel to the floor, and the transition between top & bottom causes bubbles in the line.
Still works, but not as well as I had hoped. :?
I had a couple those. They didnt work as well as i had hoped. They now have some where the actual nozzle (which is an angled stem) rotates 360 degrees that works a charm. Check your local hydro shop. Iam sure they have them or could get you one. Hand held air pump sprayers work good too but get clogged often and spray too much of whatever juice your using for simple quick spot spraying.
 

since1991

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Us growers are something huh? Here we are having an in depth discussion on frikin spray bottles of all things. To the normal people out there...they would think we are nuts...but to us..its these little things that are a big deal. I find it awesome and wouldnt change it for anything. A fukin simple spray bottle...lol.
 

Chunky Stool

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Us growers are something huh? Here we are having an in depth discussion on frikin spray bottles of all things. To the normal people out there...they would think we are nuts...but to us..its these little things that are a big deal. I find it awesome and wouldnt change it for anything. A fukin simple spray bottle...lol.
Damn right! :eyesmoke:

Details matter.
Seriously.
Attention to detail is the difference between top-shelf & average. :weed:
 

since1991

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It sounds like it might even have too much in it......I'm a bit sceptical of some of these products where they pack everything including the kitchen sink into it. I'm not convinced a foliar spray needs everything in it as the plant gets so much via the roots which is the primary method of getting its' requirements.
Just my view/opinion......I've got no evidence either way....
Good to be skeptical. This whole "bidness" is sketchy by default. But trust me when I say...when applying the catalysts and "biostimualnts" like kelps..fulvics..aminos..these are best applied (under test and control study) through a foliar spray application. Your silica and humics and what not...through the root zone. The rhizosphere.
 

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