Who are the best Breeders 1 thru 5?

Beansly

RIU Bulldog
Beans why the dislike of Sam da skunkman?Just curios.
Ah man... that's about as much of a contorversy as the whole G13 thing.
The story is kinda pointless unless you know who Neville Shoenemaker is. He is the breeder that brought commercial marijuana to the world. If your more interested in neville and his story, you'd be better off looking it up or joining the forums at Mr. Nice Seed where this topic is better know.

There are threads and threads, on top of threads by people who abhor Sam the Skunk (same can be said for people that love him unfortunately..).
The main reason I dislike him is for what he said and did about/to Neville, my marijuana breeding mentor and idol. Long story short, he was sent by the DEA to infiltrate a group of breeders that were impossible to get to. The only way they could get to Neville was through another breeder. In comes Sam the Skunkman AKA David Watson. He had been a breeder for a while as part of a group out of California that was working on the original Skunk#1, and with the Haze Brothers, advancing the now legendary Haze line. Neville, being an up and coming breeder, agreed to work with Sam on advancing the as yet virgin commercial marijuana market. Time goes by, in the mean time Sam's still working with the DEA to get as much information as possible. I think his real reason for working with the DEA against Neville was to try and get rid of his competition, but who knows for sure why he worked with them. When it was time to make a move, Nev somehow got wind of the situation ( i think there was a public report on the radio or tv or something?? not too sure how he found out ) and split. He was on the run from the US for 9 years before he resurfaced. He was on;y back for a few years before he disappeared again.
What kills me is how someone who says there about the cause could work with the DEA and live with themselves. Then there's the idea that he alone was responsible, which is a lie. But mostly I hate him for what he did and said about neville.
That said, we do have to thank Sam for a few things, like introducing the skunk#1 line, and doing MOST of the work on it. He was also the person who gave Haze to neville, who then made it available to the world. So I guess you have to respect that a little.
But Nev did more work than anyone to give quality cannabis seeds to the world. People don't realize for the most part how much you owe to Neville. He gave Northern Lights, G13, Skunk, Haze, and Afghani to the world. Anyone who knows anything about weed knows that those 5 are the base for almost every award winning strain made.
 

Dankster4Life

Well-Known Member
Ah man... that's about as much of a contorversy as the whole G13 thing.
The story is kinda pointless unless you know who Neville Shoenemaker is. He is the breeder that brought commercial marijuana to the world. If your more interested in neville and his story, you'd be better off looking it up or joining the forums at Mr. Nice Seed where this topic is better know.

There are threads and threads, on top of threads by people who abhor Sam the Skunk (same can be said for people that love him unfortunately..).
The main reason I dislike him is for what he said and did about/to Neville, my marijuana breeding mentor and idol. Long story short, he was sent by the DEA to infiltrate a group of breeders that were impossible to get to. The only way they could get to Neville was through another breeder. In comes Sam the Skunkman AKA David Watson. He had been a breeder for a while as part of a group out of California that was working on the original Skunk#1, and with the Haze Brothers, advancing the now legendary Haze line. Neville, being an up and coming breeder, agreed to work with Sam on advancing the as yet virgin commercial marijuana market. Time goes by, in the mean time Sam's still working with the DEA to get as much information as possible. I think his real reason for working with the DEA against Neville was to try and get rid of his competition, but who knows for sure why he worked with them. When it was time to make a move, Nev somehow got wind of the situation ( i think there was a public report on the radio or tv or something?? not too sure how he found out ) and split. He was on the run from the US for 9 years before he resurfaced. He was on;y back for a few years before he disappeared again.
What kills me is how someone who says there about the cause could work with the DEA and live with themselves. Then there's the idea that he alone was responsible, which is a lie. But mostly I hate him for what he did and said about neville.
That said, we do have to thank Sam for a few things, like introducing the skunk#1 line, and doing MOST of the work on it. He was also the person who gave Haze to neville, who then made it available to the world. So I guess you have to respect that a little.
But Nev did more work than anyone to give quality cannabis seeds to the world. People don't realize for the most part how much you owe to Neville. He gave Northern Lights, G13, Skunk, Haze, and Afghani to the world. Anyone who knows anything about weed knows that those 5 are the base for almost every award winning strain made.
Lol you had me giggling my ass off with the first sentence!The G13 thing isn't any different than religion or politics if ya ask me.

Yes i have read of these things also.

And just to toss out what i have been told,it was 2 phone calls to Nev that helped him decide to get the hell out.

It's a shame cause when it comes down to it Sam DOES know what he's doin with the breeding.
 

rosecitypapa

Active Member
Sam the Skunkman can suck a bag of dicks.
This dried-up douchebag hides behind his claim that he want to have marijuana legalized in the US for the cause and for stoners around the world...but it's all a lie. What he's truly doing is working with Rob Clark (author of Marijuana Botany) and BigAgro
to corner the market so that the only weed you'll be able to buy is his. Also to make home growing even more punishable than it is now, not to mention impossible by spreading chemicals that make cannabis unable to grow seeds. So everytime you grow a crop, you have to buy seeds from him. He already pissed off foodcrop farmers, because he wants to make them have to buy seeds everytime they plant a crop too, which would bankrupt the already struggling farmers. Sounds like science fiction right? Prop 19 was the first step in the process. Now I'm actually happy it didn't pass.
See for yourself ----------->http://community.kpfz.org/node/17



Kill yourself.

And Dinafem is just another Spanish Seed bank that stole a bunch of awesome genetics, and feminized them...
I though we were talking about breeders?
Feminizing seeds does not require breeding. Fem seed companies have no place in a discussion about breeding.

The reason Dinafem Seed plants look so great is because they stole the original line from real breeders (mainly Shantibaba of Mr. Nice). Spanish Seed companies are some of the worst in terms of integrity. The whole Spanish market is based on a trip shanti made to spain in the 90's, when he brought a few kilos of seeds and gave them all away. One of them was the original Hashplant, and the fable HP13. Two strains that are so great you could start a business based on the two alone.
Remember that your not just buying seeds, your supporting their shady practices. Think HARD before you buy your seeds, and especially where you buy them from. If you can't buy the seeds direct from the breeder, caveat emptor.
Thanks for the informative link, good one!
 

lilman

Well-Known Member
DR Greenthumb..Ive grown his Iranian g13, Iranian chemdawg, Endless sky, the dope, Iranian auto and Chemdawg G13. Over 100 of his fem seeds and never a hermi..not one.

Mr Nice.. Ive only grown critical mass, but what a plant. I doubt there is a more potent big yielder out there with such few leaves..its a joy to grow but it makes me paranoid.

Serious Seeds.. Chronic, great yielder with a decent buzz. I cut my teeth on chronic but changed strains after i learned about bag appeal lol.

Peace LM
 

Dankster4Life

Well-Known Member
I want to ask what we are considering "Best Breeder"

There knowledge...and how they use it?

Who sells the most seeds?

What THEY have created?

I'm sure alot of us have different opinions on what makes a breeder who they are.
 

Beansly

RIU Bulldog
I want to ask what we are considering "Best Breeder"

There knowledge...and how they use it?

Who sells the most seeds?

What THEY have created?

I'm sure alot of us have different opinions on what makes a breeder who they are.
I'd say quality and consistency. Then philosophy. I think the differences in opinion lie in what each of us consider to be "quality".
 

puffntuff

Well-Known Member
I'd say what they brought to the table. Strains, stability etc. Obviously i left mr nice of the list. It was an oversight. They are master breeders that most others should strive to achieve.
 

mellokitty

Moderatrix of Journals
1. dr atomic.
2. dr atomic.
3. dr atomic.
4. next generation (although they did their most groundbreaking work as "federation")
5. tie between breeder steve and romulan joe.
 

Ryder on the Storm

Well-Known Member
People really seem to like dr. atomic.
I was really turned off after I purchased 20 atomic blueberry fseeds rom a place in Vancouver about last year. Only a few germinated.
Maybe its time for another try.
 

mellokitty

Moderatrix of Journals
are you sure they were real dr a (LOTS of fakes around, esp in van.)? far as i know he doesn't do fseeds.
 

max316420

Well-Known Member
I really don't think Dr. Atomic offers fem'd seeds. But I tell you that the BBxNL aka Blueberry Jam is the shiznit... One of the finest strains I ever grew or smoked. Still kickin after 5 years
 
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