White House Petition to restore the human right to grow and use plants...

DNAprotection

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please consider signing this, either link will get you there, thanks...

Short URL: http://wh.gov/lnb4s
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[h=4]WE PETITION THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION TO:[/h][h=1]Recognize the naturally endowed human right to grow and use plants in pursuit of life and in effort to live[/h]Restore the natural human right to grow and use plants.
"The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people."
Humans are naturally endowed with the fundamental right to partner with the soil and posses the seeds of, and partner with, and grow the plants of this earth for their own uses as individuals in pursuit of life and in effort to live, and that such basic human rights exist and are held in perpetuity outside of the constitutional responsibility of government to protect an individuals right to engage in commerce.
Created: Feb 08, 2014
Issues: Agriculture, Human Rights, Natural Resources
 

LordRalh3

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Theres one of these every week. If you want to actually do something pick up your actual phone and call both of your areas senators and all of your reps and tell them you want them to favor full removal of marijuana from there CSA
 

DNAprotection

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Theres one of these every week. If you want to actually do something pick up your actual phone and call both of your areas senators and all of your reps and tell them you want them to favor full removal of marijuana from there CSA
actually what you suggest happens every day and is obviously just as much (if not more so) an exercise in futility...so 'if you want to actually do something', pick up your pen and paper and gather all your wits to fashion the statement of the petition into a federal civil case and then file suit against the feds for unconstitutional laws that violate your human rights ;)
 

nameno

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Don't be scared do it all & more if you can think of something else,do it. I call so regular even had 1 to call me back. I don't think he's been there long enough to get bought or caught. Tim Scott sounded like a man,the rest of them sound like liars to me. He's young enough to understand pot & old enough to have some wisdom. Have a good day!!


edit: Thanks DNA,you said it right.
 

DNAprotection

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i wonder if its 'scared' or apathy that keeps us in the masters cage?
folks tend to 'leave' and go back into abusive relationships many times before they actually finally abandon the relationship, but then some end up getting right back into the same kind of relationship with someone else...are we simply just more inclined to stick with what we are use to (what we know) rather than the uncomfortable (fear of the unknown) option of change?
ps...2 votes sigs so far in the petition lol...
 

DNAprotection

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OK, now there is 2..... I will sign when it gets to 1000
lol you may need to call the good doctor in to help make that so commander because there is a 30 day expiration date on the petition and to even get a 1000 sigs it may take a few back and forth tardis trips...
 

BSD0621

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i wonder if its 'scared' or apathy that keeps us in the masters cage?
folks tend to 'leave' and go back into abusive relationships many times before they actually finally abandon the relationship, but then some end up getting right back into the same kind of relationship with someone else...are we simply just more inclined to stick with what we are use to (what we know) rather than the uncomfortable (fear of the unknown) option of change?
ps...2 votes sigs so far in the petition lol...
We are more inclined to stick with familiar things, either good or bad. Why do you think a large percentage of those that go to prison long term end up right back? that is all they fucking know!
 

DNAprotection

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you do realize that our "Democracy" is so corrupt straight down to the core right?? even the DEA was built on hypocritical agendas... You want to take the country back? then use FORCE! Signing petitions don;'t do jack shit

Source: http://graphicpolicy.com/2012/12/03/petition-asks-president-obama-for-a-death-star-by-2016/
before one commits to a battle of any kind, it would be practical for one to know exactly what the are fighting for...
in other words do you agree with the declaration of the human right described in the petition that prompted this thread and is such worth fighting for?
if your personal answer is yes, then it makes sense to visit all the possibilities of how to bring such to be...
is war the most reasonable and practical solution to restoring such human rights?
that of course would depend on if all other possibilities have been tried and exhausted and in this circumstance such is not the case...
for example, have you filed a fed case concerning the restoration of said human rights?
has anyone ever?
if you are still here and are willing to respond to this, then we can talk more about whether or not its time for war...peace ;)
 

DNAprotection

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We are more inclined to stick with familiar things, either good or bad. Why do you think a large percentage of those that go to prison long term end up right back? that is all they fucking know!
then get familiar with yourself = what you are and what that means with respect to how that relates to everything else...and in regards to the issue at hand here, such translates to this kind of statement missing from whats 'familiar' etc...
"(section) 1.
Humans are naturally endowed with the fundamental right to partner with the soil and posses the seeds of, and partner with, and grow the plants of this earth for their own uses as individuals in pursuit of life and in effort to live, and that such basic human rights exist and are held in perpetuity outside of the constitutional responsibility of government to protect an individuals right to engage in commerce."


-Lake County 'Freedom to Grow Plants' Human Rights Initiative 11564-
Whereas on this day of November 4, 2014, in the State of California, the people of the County of Lake do hereby find and declare that:
When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for people to reaffirm and reestablish the fundamental human rights that they are naturally endowed, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's origins entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of humankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to come forward in the reestablishment of those rights.
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all humans are created equal, that they are naturally endowed with certain Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness,
--That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed,
--That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to re-declare and reestablish the inherent human rights that would intrinsically correct such governmental negligence, and to reconstitute such in a form as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness, and in accordance with the 9th amendment of the Constitution of the United State of America:
Amendment IX,
"The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people."
And, also in accordance with the California State Constitution's Article 1 Declaration of Rights:
Section 21., ...
"This declaration of rights may not be construed to impair or deny others retained by the people."
And,
--Whereas disregard and contempt for certain human rights have resulted in barbarous acts which have outraged the conscience of humankind, and the advent of a world in which human beings shall enjoy freedom of speech and belief and freedom from fear and want has been proclaimed as the highest aspiration of the common people, it has become necessary to reaffirm and specifically constitute that:

(section) 1.
Humans are naturally endowed with the fundamental right to partner with the soil and posses the seeds of, and partner with, and grow the plants of this earth for their own uses as individuals in pursuit of life and in effort to live, and that such basic human rights exist and are held in perpetuity outside of the constitutional responsibility of government to protect an individuals right to engage in commerce.
(section) 1.(a)
All County of Lake residents who exercise the rights described in section 1., and are compliant with section 2.(a), and are gardening outside (outdoor) or in green houses, are exempt from any county permitting or other county ordinances that would limit an individuals home gardening efforts in conjunction with section 1.
(section) 1.(b)
The County of Lake shall encourage and cooperate with people exercising the rights described in section 1 in every way available, and individuals exercising such rights in effort to grow food for their own consumption shall be exempt from paying for the portion of their water use that goes to water such food gardens, and such exemptions are to be determined based on garden size and the reasonable amount of water it takes to maintain such, and also based on the physical increase in water usage that exceeds the normal average water usage of the particular household without a food garden.
(section) 2.
Should neighbor complaints that are not related to section 2.(a), or are not related to a specific medically verifiable toxic health risk to the public arise as an official complaint to the county as a result of individuals exercising the rights as described in section 1., (not withstanding any effected party choosing to seek remedy and or reparations by way of litigation through civil proceedings), all the effected parties shall be directed to mediation provided for by the County of Lake, and if resolution between the effected parties cannot be achieved in a reasonable effort to mediate, the effected parties shall then continue mediation at their own expense (to be equally divided between the effected parties) until a resolution between the parties can be agreed upon, or until the effected parties agree to withdraw from mediation.
(section) 2.(a)
All who exercise the rights described in section 1., shall take reasonable care to prevent environmental destruction, and are responsible to mitigate any possible foreseen negative impacts on the natural environments, and all persons who neglect such practices shall be subject to the authority of any County of Lake ordinance(s) that would provide reasonable remedy, but such remedies are to be used to help individuals come into compliance with this section and not to unreasonably burden individuals who exercise the rights described in section 1.
(section) 2.(b)
The County of Lake Environmental Health department shall administer over individual circumstances that may arise due to non compliance with section 2., section 2.(a), and section 2.(c), but all such administrative authority and 'compliance checks' shall be restricted to circumstances where a verifiable neighbor complaint has been officially registered with the county, and such authority shall not be blanketly imposed on those who exercise the rights as described in section 1., or 1.(a).
(section) 2(c)
If an individual's income qualifies for the low income standards of the county, then the county shall assist in an individuals effort to comply with section 2.(a) by mitigating the costs of any such remedies, but shall not do so in cases where the environmental damage is occurring from an individuals use of non organic gardening chemicals including but not limited to pesticides, herbicides, fungicides and fertilizers, and the County of Lake retains the authority to limit the use of such chemicals if such a remedy is applicable to the circumstance(s).
(section) 3.
All County, State and Federal criminal laws that exist in conflict with individuals exercising the human rights as described in section 1., (and not withstanding an individual in violation of using illegal gardening chemicals including but not limited to certain pesticides, herbicides, fungicides and fertilizers), are to be set aside unless it can be determined that the individual circumstance is occurring within the context of 'commerce' related activities as defined herein,
--For the expressed purposes of this document the word "commerce" shall be taken to mean:
The buying and selling of goods in any form, as between individual humans, and in direct reference to the exchange of United States currency (or other such legally recognized tender) for such goods or services.
(section) 3.(a)
If any provision of this Initiative or the application thereof to any person or circumstance is held invalid, such invalidity shall not affect other provisions or applications of the Initiative which can be given effect without the invalid provision or application, and to this end the provisions of this Initiative are severable. The People of the County of Lake hereby declare that we would have adopted this Initiative irrespective of the invalidity of any particular portion thereof.
 

DNAprotection

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the UN has an outline on human rights, but they also have agenda 21 lol...

http://www.ohchr.org/en/issues/pages/whatarehumanrights.aspx

"What are human rights?Human rights are rights inherent to all human beings, whatever our nationality, place of residence, sex, national or ethnic origin, colour, religion, language, or any other status. We are all equally entitled to our human rights without discrimination. These rights are all interrelated, interdependent and indivisible.
Universal human rights are often expressed and guaranteed by law, in the forms of treaties, customary international law , general principles and other sources of international law. International human rights law lays down obligations of Governments to act in certain ways or to refrain from certain acts, in order to promote and protect human rights and fundamental freedoms of individuals or groups."
 

DNAprotection

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the petition needs 150 sigs to be searchable online and there is still only 2 sigs lol :clap::hug:
:idea:this place must be mostly populated with house slaves:idea:
 

SunJ

Member
you do realize that our "Democracy" is so corrupt straight down to the core right?? even the DEA was built on hypocritical agendas... You want to take the country back? then use FORCE! Signing petitions don;'t do jack shit

Source: http://graphicpolicy.com/2012/12/03/petition-asks-president-obama-for-a-death-star-by-2016/
I feel you. And I'm trying to start something that will appeal not just to stoners, but American's in general. If we can pull it off, ie: get enough people to do this one simple thing... the wizard behind the curtain will take note and realize it's time to change before the illusion comes crashing down through his very own front gates. There is a way for peaceful revolution, and I have faith that we can do it.

You're right, though, I've noticed a lot of a beat down attitudes from some folks here. Can you blame them? They feed us shit and expect us to thank them? Those times are coming to an end, my friend. I just ask that you read the words that I write and contribute your own ideas to mix.

Rollitup.org may someday be know to history books as where the New American Revolution began.

Wouldn't that be cool?

Peace & Greens
 

DNAprotection

Well-Known Member
I feel you. And I'm trying to start something that will appeal not just to stoners, but American's in general. If we can pull it off, ie: get enough people to do this one simple thing... the wizard behind the curtain will take note and realize it's time to change before the illusion comes crashing down through his very own front gates. There is a way for peaceful revolution, and I have faith that we can do it.

You're right, though, I've noticed a lot of a beat down attitudes from some folks here. Can you blame them? They feed us shit and expect us to thank them? Those times are coming to an end, my friend. I just ask that you read the words that I write and contribute your own ideas to mix.

Rollitup.org may someday be know to history books as where the New American Revolution began.

Wouldn't that be cool?

Peace & Greens
i feel you as well SunJ, i'm curious what your plan is though?
but if it falls short of this reality that relates to all humans being the turn key, then i'm not sure what you mean:


  1. Restore the natural human right to grow and use plants.
    "The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people."
    Humans are naturally endowed with the fundamental right to partner with the soil and posses the seeds of, and partner with, and grow the plants of this earth for their own uses as individuals in pursuit of life and in effort to live, and that such basic human rights exist and are held in perpetuity outside of the constitutional responsibility of government to protect an individuals right to engage in commerce.​
 

DNAprotection

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ok, correct me if im wrong, but i looked at your recent posts and the best i can figure is this is your plan:

It is as simple as going to your ballot box. There are no petitions to sign or dirty politicians to grease. It doesn't even matter who you vote into what office or what policy you vote for or against, but before you drop that ballot in the box, put a nice BIG GREEN "W" on the front of it for those counting the votes to see. When they see enough of them and start wondering just WTF is going on, I'm sure the press will do their job and figure it out! :)
first of all what do you mean by 'legalization'?
bro ya gotta know what your asking for and i could write 100 laws that could meet the definition of that word and not one of which would i vote for...
in other words what does the 'W' mean?...people not knowing what exactly that means is not an advantage, it becomes a great disadvantage as its so easily co-opted for nefarious purposes...
im thinking you havent thought this through very well before you posted it ;)
i like your energy though :)
keep up the energy flow, just focus it on the end result of human rights, thats the place where the issue concerns all humans...


  1. Restore the natural human right to grow and use plants.
    "The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people."
    Humans are naturally endowed with the fundamental right to partner with the soil and posses the seeds of, and partner with, and grow the plants of this earth for their own uses as individuals in pursuit of life and in effort to live, and that such basic human rights exist and are held in perpetuity outside of the constitutional responsibility of government to protect an individuals right to engage in commerce.​
 

SunJ

Member
I posted about this elsewhere earlier today... My vision of "legalization" is the immediate rescheduling of marijuana as a "dangerous drug" and have it be given back to man. Anyone that wants to grow some for themselves should be allowed to do so and do so responsibly. Don't sell it to anyone or give it to kids. Barter, but don't sell. For others that just wish to consume, a regulated and taxed market provides them with an alternative to alcohol.... It's. Just. Like. Alcohol..... in that respect. That was hard to say, because Marijuana is not at all "just like alcohol" in it's effect, as we all know.

I also want to see the immediate release of ALL non-violent drug offenders & call for serious investigation into why things like mushrooms are illegal!
 

DNAprotection

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I posted about this elsewhere earlier today... My vision of "legalization" is the immediate rescheduling of marijuana as a "dangerous drug" and have it be given back to man. Anyone that wants to grow some for themselves should be allowed to do so and do so responsibly. Don't sell it to anyone or give it to kids. Barter, but don't sell. For others that just wish to consume, a regulated and taxed market provides them with an alternative to alcohol.... It's. Just. Like. Alcohol..... in that respect. That was hard to say, because Marijuana is not at all "just like alcohol" in it's effect, as we all know.

I also want to see the immediate release of ALL non-violent drug offenders & call for serious investigation into why things like mushrooms are illegal!
seriously bro does that summarize the depth of your understanding of this issue?
if you still think this is just about cannabis then you are simply not ready for prime time...
the jurisdictional issues at play here go directly to your human right to grow any plant for your own use...
you seriously need to have a better understanding of how law works before you start thinking you know what the laws should look like...
maybe you think cannabis is the only useful plant 'we' would ever want to grow?
or maybe you would like to fight this regulation battle over every plant species on earth one species at a time, hell why not, got nothing better to do right?...and if human rights are none existent or irrelevant as seems to be the case in your mind then of course we need to spend the next 500 years deciding what plants should be prohibited and scheduled and regulated or not etc...is that about right?
 
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