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Which of these males to choose for breeding

Discussion in 'Breeders Paradise' started by Greenthumbskunk, Jan 24, 2018.

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    Greenthumbskunk

    Greenthumbskunk Well-Known Member

    I found a very old pack of Critical Bilbo aka Critical Mass. I had 8 seeds left in the pack. All 8 sprouted and of those I had 4 male / 4 female.
    Since this is the last of this pack and something everyone loved when I used to grow it for several years.
    My goal is to get a mother out of those 4
    Get a breeding male out of those 4 males.

    I've already veged these out and have taken clones off each.

    I put some stress on em to see how they reacted like pH imbalance in the soil, over feeding, under feeding, how they smell by rubbing the stem.

    Now since they have been in flower I've had one male that simply has been outstanding. Took all stress in stride and never showed Cal deficiencies, grew like a champ, much more vigor than the other males, structure was great. Etc. After the flip it was by far the first to show sex and put some ball sacks out. (always read this was not a good sign, low potency) it's pollen sacks are not as packed or clumped together as the others are showing now.
    Others pretty much all showed at the same time their pollen sacks.
    All smell the same, light fruity grape

    I'm going to either breed just one male or maybe leave all four?
    Besides those 4 females I'm leaving in their to be pollinated I also have some Girl Scout, Sour Diesel, Ice, white widow x big Bud, critical kush, and some Oh zone.
    Interested in what the offspring would be.


    This is the male with the most vigor and also quickest cloner. IMG_20180124_011421.jpg IMG_20180124_011349.jpg IMG_20180124_011316.jpg IMG_20180124_012445.jpg IMG_20180124_012300.jpg
     
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    Greenthumbskunk

    Greenthumbskunk Well-Known Member

    IMG_20180124_011526.jpg IMG_20180124_011544.jpg IMG_20180124_011554.jpg Another male
     
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    Greenthumbskunk

    Greenthumbskunk Well-Known Member

    Another one IMG_20180124_011629.jpg IMG_20180124_011639.jpg
     
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    Greenthumbskunk

    Greenthumbskunk Well-Known Member

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    Noinch

    Noinch Well-Known Member

    Without trying them all and seeing what offspring they produce it's kind of hard to tell what traits will actually carry on. First you need to figure out what traits you want most. Yield? Smell? Potency? If you want yield, use the largest and largest cluster male. If you want smell choose which ever smells the best, if you want potency smoke them and find out which one's the strongest. That's pretty much your best selection methods without actually breeding them and sorting through the offspring or just use all 4 just so you don't miss out on potentially the better one but you're going to have a lot of sorting through phenotypes afterwards with 4 males in the mix
     
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    Greenthumbskunk

    Greenthumbskunk Well-Known Member

    All four of the males all smell the same. The most vigorous male which is putting out the pollen much earlier does not have as tight of clusters as the other three as you can see in the pictures. I'm just mainly after potency yield and how it looks
     
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    whitebb2727

    whitebb2727 Well-Known Member

    Why not use all four? Use a different male on four different female cuttings or four different limbs.
     
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    Greenthumbskunk

    Greenthumbskunk Well-Known Member


    I would but I'm wanting a lot of seeds. Gonna use these to put outside here in a couple months.
     
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    whitebb2727

    whitebb2727 Well-Known Member

    Sure. You will have lots of seeds. You can use one male and pick the characteristics you want. You could use all the males and get lots of seeds. Either way. No biggie.
     
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    Greenthumbskunk

    Greenthumbskunk Well-Known Member


    I will be needing several hundred seeds. The females are only a foot tall and have been topped so only the side branches remain. I won't be getting too many seeds out of em. I'll def have to be doing this again in the near future with my clones. I guess I'm gonna see how the males and even the females look after flowering them out and take those cuttings and make more seed again.
    I'm interested in the effects of a critical mass cross with some of the other variations I put in the room like the forum cut of girl scout cookies for example.
    Hopefully I'll get a couple good phenos out of it. Same high and taste but with more yield.
     
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    whitebb2727

    whitebb2727 Well-Known Member

    I do the same. Last time I chose a male it was out of five of them.

    If you have several runs it might be worth using one male. You could always dry and freeze some of the other males just in case later on you wish you had used a different one.

    I froze a bunch of pollen of the last male I kept. Every time I find a worth female I hit a branch or two. Usually get 100-200 seeds. It adds up.
     
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    Greenthumbskunk

    Greenthumbskunk Well-Known Member


    On a side note is that Al Bundy in your sig? If so I downloaded every episode of married with children. I'm in season 7 right now and it's hilarious. I only watched parts of it back in the late 80s.
     
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    whitebb2727

    whitebb2727 Well-Known Member

    Yea. Its Al Bundy. I really liked that show.
     

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