Where to begin........

Discussion in 'Vertical Growing' started by Evil-Mobo, Jun 10, 2016.

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    Evil-Mobo

    Evil-Mobo Well-Known Member

    Ok so rather than start an entirely new thread, I figured I'd jump in here again.

    I am "toying" with the idea of another vert style grow in the future. If you guys had 1/2 of a 5x9 tent to use for this endeavor, how would you set it up. I have vertical sockets and 1K HPS bulbs.

    Happy New Year Everyone.
     
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    Tim Fox

    Tim Fox Well-Known Member

    Stadium seating
     
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    Frajola

    Frajola Well-Known Member

    I cant find th e tread w the vert x spiral garden , a Canadian guy has over 200 plants ( soil less) in one small set up . I got find him again ....and a vert bare bulb also.
     
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    ttystikk

    ttystikk Well-Known Member

    I saw that grow. Awesome, but scary plant count.
     
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    ttystikk

    ttystikk Well-Known Member

    This.

    Hang the two lamps as if your tent was two smaller square tents. Hanging the lamps in the middle will just starve the plants at the ends for light while frying the ones in the middle.
     
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    OneHitDone

    OneHitDone Well-Known Member

    Giddy Up @Evil-Mobo , this project getting off the ground or what?
     
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    Evil-Mobo

    Evil-Mobo Well-Known Member

    LOL

    I am waiting for more input from a few folks.

    I went back to this thread and saw that the grow really wasn't going bad I just screwed the pooch when I went away on vaca and let the plants dry out. Also guess moving towards LED after this grow kinda took me away from the vert idea.

    Right now my head is spinning with ideas.

    I just really can't find a lot of feedback on the use of cool tubes and would not mind running bare bulb at all but concerned with heat...................

    Then back and forth on whether I should cage the plants or just let them rip straight up.............

    For the rest of the world @OneHitDone I will explain the situation........

    Short and simple I am finally in a spot where I can make a move towards hydro and with brother @OneHitDone help I am in the process of implementing that plan. I will be running a recirculating top feed using square 9" pots and 6" Flora Flex caps. After testing the veg with the 6" pots that came with the caps it's evident I need something larger for veg as I have roots out the bottom in just a hair over a week. So the switch to the larger containers for veg and flower will just make the grow all the more easier. Just move pots when it's time to flip no transplanting.

    Anyhow, I have a 400W blue MH hanging in my 3x3 running the veg setup, here's a pic from 5 days ago

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    My first question is this as I am actually running slightly cool in here but partly also because only one 600 watt HPS is on. IS there any benefit to just hanging the Blue MH bare bulb in here for veg?


    So now moving on. After discussing the use of the "mega garden" with brother @OneHitDone I ordered one and fired up my closet again. It's a 2z2 F&D setup that is slick as all hell. I decided to shut down one of my tents to make it a dedicated dry space. This closet will keep a mom or to, get the clones going, and run the F&D, that's a two foot four bulb T5 in there which I just got in and I remember why I love T5 so much.

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    So moving further along. Now the flower space. So here's where my vertical space starts to become a premium for real. In veg no biggie because I won't be vegging to the top of the tent lol. The switch to hydro here costs me 18" of vertical space, add that onto the 12" my Raptor hoods take up hanging at the highest possible setting and you're at 30". Now add the 9" from the pots and we are at 39". With only 6.5 feet of space floor to ceiling you see where the issue comes in. I would have very little space left even witrhout considering a decent amount of space between the lights and the canopy.

    The hydro setup will not be changed. I am disabled and this was all planned and designed to lessen my workload vs hand watering the entire garden DTW. And now with two of the spaces Hydro I can tell you the soil will keep for the outside veggies, indoors hydro for me whenever possible.

    So as much as I love my raptors I wanted to find another (Non-LED) @ttystikk solution and I havee on hand my 600 watt hortilux gold ballast and Blue MH and Super HPS bulbs as well.

    My flower tent is a 4x8 and here's a pic from a few days ago. The right side is empty and I will be constructing my tray stand and setting up the hydro for that side soon for the girls currently in veg.

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    So then what's the best way to go about this, do I hang one 600 in the center of each tray bare bulb and let them rip? Plant natural with stakes or a cage? Cool Tubes?

    Do I stack both lights in the center between both trays?

    Cage around the lights or cage up the walls, etc? My head is spinning LOL.......

    :dunce:
     
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    Evil-Mobo

    Evil-Mobo Well-Known Member

    Well I ordered one of these a little while ago, figured I can test this out and see how the temps do.................when I build out the stand and what not for the empty side of the 4x8 this will give me a decent idea not exact on how bad temps might get I guess having both HPS running despite one being in a hood.

    Anyways it's $24 and can't be a bad thing to have lying around........

    http://yourhydrostore.com/grow-lights/lighting-accessories/socket-assembly-5kv-w-15-ft-cord
     
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    Evil-Mobo

    Evil-Mobo Well-Known Member

    Ok I got the breaker from the grow room switched from 15A to 20A.

    Also came in to check on the closet and the veg tent.

    Closet is rocking and rolling with the F&D and the clones look good. I am testing rooting right into rockwool and have a clone dome enroute right now the cuts are in my make shift dome. I am testing a couple before giving the cuts in the closet a haircut.

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    Here's a couple shots of the veg tent with the recirculating top drip setup. It's much cooler in here temp wise than I'd like I turned the adjustment on the exhaust fan down to the lowest setting to see of it helps.

    Wonder if the 400 watt blue mh would be better hung vertically in here bare for me ?

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    And a shot of my outdoor veggies for this year which I put into the pots this last weekend as well as my sunflower that I started from seed indoors and put outside over this past weekend.

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    Thanks for checking in I will post pics of the flower tent later tonight when the lights come on. I run my 12/12 over night.

    :peace:
     
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    Cold$moke

    Cold$moke Well-Known Member

    Make sure your setup can handle a 20 amp breaker

    Other then that :clap:
     
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    Evil-Mobo

    Evil-Mobo Well-Known Member

    What the lights being used in the room? I'm at about 16.5 amps once I hang the second 600 watt in the 4x8 so it'll leave head room . Wire gauge was the same on the panel for both so I swapped the 20a not being used in place of the 15a
     
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    Cold$moke

    Cold$moke Well-Known Member

    Can i ask why you want to go vert?

    I never tried it my self but was wondering what convinced you?

    I myself am thinking of adding about half my rooms square footage by
    Turning my production side of my room into
    A double stacked led strip grow.

    Half my room Will be for running seeds out and the other half will be geared towards production.

    Got the idea when i told myself i was making a seed setup but didnt want to lose half my room .

    Then it hit me and i was like shit i can stack em:)
     
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    Evil-Mobo

    Evil-Mobo Well-Known Member

    Because of the height I am losing going to hydro Inside the tents :)
     
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    Cold$moke

    Cold$moke Well-Known Member

    Cool just wanted to make sure dont want a homie to lose his place right :)

    Also make sure your Receptacles are also 20 amp ;) if so your g2g
     
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    Evil-Mobo

    Evil-Mobo Well-Known Member

    Haha no fires brother I'm a retired Fireman god forbid. But good looking out :)
     
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    Cold$moke

    Cold$moke Well-Known Member

    Ok i think im following your reason now

    Drop the light grow the plants taller in your tent type thing?
     
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    Evil-Mobo

    Evil-Mobo Well-Known Member

    Exactly :)
     
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    Cold$moke

    Cold$moke Well-Known Member

    Awsome, yea just dont want a dude to put a 20 on a barely able to hold 15 circut lol

    But you know all about that shit lol

    Edit to add that would be some ironic shit though
     
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    DST

    DST Well-Known Member

    Will check things out more when I gotta min bru. Subbed.
     
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    Evil-Mobo

    Evil-Mobo Well-Known Member

    Thanks bro looking forward to your input :bigjoint:
     

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