What's with all the hate on autos..Let's compare.

I never understand all this utter rubbish that gets thrown around arguing that autos are easier to grow. Its exactly the same other than changing a timer. One of the arguments is they are hardier than photoperiod plants. Bullshit. That's nothing more than selective comparison. If you do 5 minutes of reading, you'll find plenty of photo strains that can take anything you throw at them, the same amount of time required to search and find out which autos are actually worth growing.

I respect all the opinions and in my particular case is nothing to do if easy or hard to grow (it's weed, after all). In my location summer and I want to take a full advantage of mild spring, long summer and hopefully warm fall. I did grow some girls over the winter and the electricity is obscene. I HAVE to go outside/greenhouse, no lights - period. I only have 3 options.
1) wait and do one good photo strain and one harvest late summer
2) do NLA strain NOW and do it again in mid summer
3) do one NLA strain now and see what happen, if I have enough time to do photo strain, and if not do another auto instead (all depends on timing and harvest the first NLA)

I would like to get to harvests.......

Regardless I am with you, they all take the same care and attention.

I have only grown one auto to date. In the end, my auto yielded as much as photoperiods I've grown. I do grow autos in ffof with 20/4 light, in 5 gallon pots. Potency was also as good as my last photoperiod plant (bubblicious). Interesting point on tbe double wear and tear on equipment growing autos However, I found much more convienece being able to tend my garden during most hours of the day.

Smokenpassout said:

I have only grown one auto to date. In the end, my auto yielded as much as photoperiods I've grown. I do grow autos in ffof with 20/4 light, in 5 gallon pots. Potency was also as good as my last photoperiod plant (bubblicious). Interesting point on tbe double wear and tear on equipment growing autos However, I found much more convienece being able to tend my garden during most hours of the day.

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I would not deny that autos can be good, but there are just too few great options compared to the number of great pgotoperiods available.

And you have to have an extremely topsy turvey life to not find time in a 12 hour period of your day every couple of days to tend your garden. If autos are being used, typically it means a small grow, not something that needs constant observation and work.

Man, I have more time then money. Time is not the issue. The climate and day/dark hours are.
I don't see how can I grow photos in April, when I only getting 12 hrs light and getting worst everyday ..... less I am missing something.

That's why I decided on the auto

I grow photoperiod plants indoors in No Colorado.
I am planning an outdoor grow this year with some autos, based on my experience with an auto freebie I threw outside last year.
I ordered Pyramid Auto Anesthesia.
It has Amnesia genetics and the photoperiod version is very high THC.
I expect it to be pretty strong.
If the photo version is 20 +%, how low can this be with the ruderelis gene in it?
I am planning on starting them indoors end of April and throwing them outside at three weeks old in late May.
I have enough beans to do a couple runs this summer. (and a few freebies I've been saving)
I can start the next batch around July 1st and finish by mid Sept, before frost.
This will be a fun experiment. I'm going to document these Anesthesia and make a journal.

Ivone said:

I respect all the opinions and in my particular case is nothing to do if easy or hard to grow (it's weed, after all). In my location summer and I want to take a full advantage of mild spring, long summer and hopefully warm fall. I did grow some girls over the winter and the electricity is obscene. I HAVE to go outside/greenhouse, no lights - period. I only have 3 options.
1) wait and do one good photo strain and one harvest late summer
2) do NLA strain NOW and do it again in mid summer
3) do one NLA strain now and see what happen, if I have enough time to do photo strain, and if not do another auto instead (all depends on timing and harvest the first NLA)

I would like to get to harvests.......

Regardless I am with you, they all take the same care and attention.

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A full season outdoor photo period plant can yield 100 x as much and an autoflower(maybe a slight exaggeration) but if you have the option of doing one or the other I would for sure go good yielding/potent photoperiod strains and just do the full season.

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kmog33 said:

A full season outdoor photo period plant can yield 100 x as much and an autoflower(maybe a slight exaggeration) but if you have the option of doing one or the other I would for sure go good yielding/potent photoperiod strains and just do the full season.

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I hear you. I'll go with the third option then. I have 7 months in the greenhouse to get 2 crops. I will start auto this week and hopefully they will be ready in 90-100 days. Then I will jump start the photo inside and when auto are harvested, transplant them in the greenhouse (I gain 2 weeks). Has to be Indica with high THC. Sensi Star, Chronic, Aurora or similar etc., longest they can mature in 90-100 days or so.

cricket101 said:

Speaking of which, what are some of the fastest strains for growing a full grow in under 60 days? I want a strain I can grow, harvest, and have dried n cured in about 2 months

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sweet seed "speed +" and "sweet skunk auto"

Mr.Head said:

Im not mad at all, my use of profanity maybe made it seem that way.

I also meant no offense to the dude I singled out, there are a lot of people who do that. It just doesn't make sense is all.

The op asked a question I gave my answer.

Auto's are fucking garbage and a waste of time

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lol i hate you bro

really i like them a lot for me under 3generation they are not really worthy to grow but for the last generation (+3 generation) they got nice things

they are really fast and easy to do

people who can fuck an grow with an autflower must stop growing lol

they do medicate me well maybe they got low thc but their cbd level can go up to 6, 8 %!!!!!

RockyMtnMan said:

I grow photoperiod plants indoors in No Colorado.
I am planning an outdoor grow this year with some autos, based on my experience with an auto freebie I threw outside last year.
I ordered Pyramid Auto Anesthesia.
It has Amnesia genetics and the photoperiod version is very high THC.
I expect it to be pretty strong.
If the photo version is 20 +%, how low can this be with the ruderelis gene in it?
I am planning on starting them indoors end of April and throwing them outside at three weeks old in late May.
I have enough beans to do a couple runs this summer. (and a few freebies I've been saving)
I can start the next batch around July 1st and finish by mid Sept, before frost.
This will be a fun experiment. I'm going to document these Anesthesia and make a journal.

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try "big devil xl" from sweet seed, "ultimate" from buddha seed , "maxigom" from grass-o-matic

or you can also try their mixpack sweet seed and grass-o-matic will give you big auto but buddha seed they stay low but stil déliver good yield and they are very yummy

tip top toker said:

[Autos are] exactly the same other than changing a timer.

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The autoflower's lack of photo sensitivity means a new grower can grow on a kitchen table, alongside vegging plants, etc. The grower can work on her plant during "lights out." She doesn't have to provide absolute darkness, nor worry about light leaks.

Also, a new grower doesn't have to obsess about when to cut the lights, etc. Flowering just happens, giving the new grower an idea about what different stages and transitions look like. The smaller size makes t5ho or cfl more appropriate (and therefore lower initial cost to grow).

I've grown both photo and auto. I find the autos more exciting.They grow/finish at a slightly faster pace which helps keep it fun. I'm considering rotating 5 plants through a 4x4 tent, planting a new plant as I harvest a plant every 2-3 weeks.

I agree that photos may be more efficient in terms of electricity savings, lifespan of lights, etc. But, the ease factor may make it worthwhile. I found the autos tolerance for light during the dark period (an auto's lack of need for a "dark period") to be extremely beneficial.

Afghan kush ryder what a kick in the bollox if your not used to indicas. 55 days from seed and stronger than the shit I buy on the street. How can u hate that

Awesome thread .... i love a good debate + 1 for AKR from world of seeds hell of a nice buzz
I havent seen anyone mention the naturally higher CBD rates from ruderalis crosses which personally i like for the added medicinal / pain killer effect its the main reason i switched to auto's and the perpetual grow in one box idea

tekdc911 said:

Awesome thread .... i love a good debate + 1 for AKR from world of seeds hell of a nice buzz
I havent seen anyone mention the naturally higher CBD rates from ruderalis crosses which personally i like for the added medicinal / pain killer effect its the main reason i switched to auto's and the perpetual grow in one box idea

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Ding, Ding, Ding...exactly. Sometimes it isn't about the Ferrari, it's about the vintage BMW.

Smokenpassout said:

I have only grown one auto to date. In the end, my auto yielded as much as photoperiods I've grown. I do grow autos in ffof with 20/4 light, in 5 gallon pots. Potency was also as good as my last photoperiod plant (bubblicious). Interesting point on tbe double wear and tear on equipment growing autos However, I found much more convienece being able to tend my garden during most hours of the day.

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good points.

the wear and tear maybe the same if you keep the lights on 24/7 as your not starting bulbs up and turning of all the time.

i prefer to just keep the lights on all day and night instead for this reason in veg . would i get more hours out of my T5 lights ? at a higher lumen output ? than someone who uses a different schdule then putting load on switches and capacitors etc i think probably . but thats my personal opinion / feel that works for me.

the good thing is that ppl do it differently and its only this way that we can compare and find out the answers.

I agree that indoor auto growing makes little sense... however, people who live in the north have a super short flowering season cut off by the frost and a huge risk for mold. So I'm going to be popping autos outside this season since they'll finish when the summer is at it's hottest. I still need to order more beans, but the one I have on me now is Bubble Gum:
http://www.herbiespicknmixseeds.com/single-pick-n-mix-00-seeds-auto-bubble-gum-autoflowering-feminised-seeds-3661

Taking a risk, yes... but she may turn out to be delicious

UncleReemis said:

I agree that indoor auto growing makes little sense... however, people who live in the north have a super short flowering season cut off by the frost and a huge risk for mold. So I'm going to be popping autos outside this season since they'll finish when the summer is at it's hottest. I still need to order more beans, but the one I have on me now is Bubble Gum:
http://www.herbiespicknmixseeds.com/single-pick-n-mix-00-seeds-auto-bubble-gum-autoflowering-feminised-seeds-3661

Taking a risk, yes... but she may turn out to be delicious

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good plan..

i like the idea of doing autos indoors in the veg room.. especially in the process of setting up a perpetual system.
a bit of smoke in the mean time..!

looking forward to seeing what you get from outside autos.

peace

Holy Grail 888 said:

good plan..

i like the idea of doing autos indoors in the veg room.. especially in the process of setting up a perpetual system.
a bit of smoke in the mean time..!

looking forward to seeing what you get from outside autos.

peace

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mmm yeah didn't think about that. Not having a restriction to light schedule makes them good space fillers haha

UncleReemis said:

mmm yeah didn't think about that. Not having a restriction to light schedule makes them good space fillers haha

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yep use them in the veg room ! smells good too