What's the best haze from the Green House seedbank?

Best Green House Haze?

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Mellowman2112

Mellowman2112

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Pipe Dream said:
Yeah you might re-think the whole haze idea but if your just looking for that connoisseur sativa product than welcome to the club! As far as my experience with GHS, its very limited. I too decided to pick up a female seed of their Kings Kush to test the product and I was happy wh the experience but on the other hand, it's simply 2 clone only strains bred together. It really doesn't say much when it comes to their strains or selection process. If your stuck on trying them and want haze I would choose one of aryan's hazes because that is their own creation I think. There are some impressie grows on youtube you could check out. Most of the other stuff in the lineup was originally bred by the owner of Mr Nice so if you want to try those that's where I would go for SSH and such, but I hear SSH is great and all but not very hazey either.

I have smoked some lemon haze and it was like lemon juice. My bro really liked it and was one of his favs but it came from a dispensary so who knows where it really came from? If you looking for a real haze variety I would stay away from Cannalope Haze. I bought the seeds many years ago when I actually wanted chocolope but they were sold out and I figured they would be just as good or better but not what I was expecting. For 95% sativa it sure looks a lot like an indica to me so if it really is sativa than it sure is a strange one. The plants were not bad or anything and had some good qualities but not the "haze" I had in mind.

Reeferman's got some colombian gold at the tude for less than 30$ and I'm growing it now. I even sold my bro on how beautiful they are when he saw them today. It' been 5 weeks I hope they stop growing I'm out of room, they've quadrupled in size since 12/12 and are vigorous so you can flower early and they grow lotss of branches. Can't say anything about the overall quality yet obviously but they are true sativas.

Maybe even better iis Tom hill's haze, there should be some purple phenotypes to find too if your really lucky. I would love to get my hands on some of those. :weed:

I guess it really depends on what your after though. There is a lot more sativa dominant hybrids than true sativas that will be easier to gro,yeild better and flower quicker, or there's those others we've mentioned if you want to really take that plunge.
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that columbian gold sounds really good, thats not an 18 week flowerer is it?
 
Mellowman2112

Mellowman2112

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Brick Top said:
Here's a few to pick from.Their sized will vary some but none will be shorties.

All from Reeferman:

Willie Nelson.
Cambodian (also called Phnom Penh)
Haze Brother's Original Haze
Cambodian IBL x Purple Haze
Accidental Haze
Blackseed

From Mr. Nice Seeds:

Mango Haze
Super Silver Haze
Neville's Haze
Walkabout
Shit (is you want just a little bit more indica in there and some of the hybrids mentioned)

Serious Seeds:

Kali Mist

Sagarmatha Seeds:

Western Winds
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which of these would be the best yielder Brick? With a reasonable flowering time?
 
tingpoon

tingpoon

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no surprise that the super lemon haze is leading the pack on the poll. i also really like the super silver haze but its harder to grow imho because it doesnt want too much water and lotta ppl will overwater it. in that regard then i would say its more tempermental than the super lemon haze. jack herer deserves a thread of its own tho really fantastic strain there.
 
Brick Top

Brick Top

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Originally Posted by Brick Top
Here's a few to pick from.Their sized will vary some but none will be shorties.

All from Reeferman:

Willie Nelson.
Cambodian (also called Phnom Penh)
Haze Brother's Original Haze
Cambodian IBL x Purple Haze
Accidental Haze
Blackseed

From Mr. Nice Seeds:

Mango Haze
Super Silver Haze
Neville's Haze
Walkabout
Shit (is you want just a little bit more indica in there and some of the hybrids mentioned)

Serious Seeds:

Kali Mist

Sagarmatha Seeds:

Western Winds
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Mellowman2112 said:
which of these would be the best yielder Brick? With a reasonable flowering time?
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Likely Blackseed, but it might also be the least potent of the bunch. Not that it is really weak, but it's not as potent as some. It is an IBL Mexican sativa known for large yields and a traditional sativa high.
 
Brick Top

Brick Top

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tingpoon said:
no surprise that the super lemon haze is leading the pack on the poll. i also really like the super silver haze but its harder to grow imho because it doesnt want too much water and lotta ppl will overwater it. in that regard then i would say its more tempermental than the super lemon haze. jack herer deserves a thread of its own tho really fantastic strain there.
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I'm stunned that the hermie-prone Super Lemon Haze is leading the pack. As for Super Silver Haze, there is Super Silver Haze and then there is Super Silver Haze and unfortunately most who grow it grow the inferior Green House Seeds version rather than the original.

Super Lemon Haze was tested by an independent lab using the two different modern methods of testing for cannabinoids. The results of the 'Calculated Active Cannabinods' test the THC level came in at being 23.98%. In that testing method, the one that breeders always rely on, the THC percentage is contingent on all non-psychoactive THCA found becoming fully psychoactive. Using the 'Relative Ratios of Active Cannabinods' test the THC level came in at a whopping 9.64%.

In other words, that is what was actually found rather than what it 'might' become if all non-psychoactive THCA would undergo full decarboxylization and become actual THC.

But it is really no different from any other strain in that what is advertised is what someone might get IF full and complete decarboxylization occurs. Since there is the possibility that might happen they of course advertise that HIGH THC percentage rather than the low single digit THC percentage.
 
steampick

steampick

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Super Lemon Haze is leading the pack because it is a lot more than just an infamous hermi-prone plant. It may indeed be hermie-prone (although the recent threads I've read through on RIU don't mention any hermies), but it is also a) fairly easy to grow b) not ridiculously long in flower (even the more sativa pheno), c) tastes great (and is less filling!) d) smells great e) is potent, and f) crystals up amazingly well right across its phenotypes. Remember, the poll was about which GHS haze was the best, and you've just mentioned the word on the Super Silver Haze being inferior. Certainly their Arjan Haze strains don't compare (grew out their Arjan 3 and I some beefs about it).
 
Brick Top

Brick Top

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steampick said:
Remember, the poll was about which GHS haze was the best,
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Yes is was but that does not mean the thread starter cannot become educated about Green House Seeds and how they are for the most part mid-grade genetics and many are hermie prone and switch from Green House Seeds to a quality breeder and a much better choice of strain.

I doubt the thread started is somehow locked in or bound by something that will require that he only purchases from Green House Seeds. People can change their minds and in this case it would not at all be an injudicious thing for the thread starter to do.
 
steampick

steampick

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Bit of a strawman argument you've created there. Certainly nobody is suggesting the OP be locked in or bound by his poll, but you said you were surprised SLH was leading the poll, and I was giving you a reason why it might.
 
Brick Top

Brick Top

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steampick said:
Bit of a strawman argument you've created there. Certainly nobody is suggesting the OP be locked in or bound by his poll, but you said you were surprised SLH was leading the poll, and I was giving you a reason why it might.
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And in my last few messages I gave reasons why I was surprised. What, am I supposed to not be able to say anything more on the subject in general?
 
steampick

steampick

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More strawman, bricktop. You've got to watch falling into that particular logical fallacy. It's the one where you create a tenously related, but different argument than the original, then knock that self-created "strawman" down to claim the "victory." The topic was how SLH could be leading the poll. You gave reasons why you were surprised. I gave you reasons why I'm not. You then thought it foolish for the OP to be bound by his poll (which was not the topic being debated, and so a strawman). You then questioned whether or not you were able to say anything more on the subject in general (again, not the original argument but another strawman you created). It's Rhetoric 101. Anyway, I certainly hope you do not limit yourself in your posts, and am if fact glad you chimed in with mention of these other strains of haze. Still, I'm not surprised SLH is the leading GHS haze.
 
Brick Top

Brick Top

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steampick said:
More strawman, bricktop. You've got to watch falling into that particular logical fallacy. It's the one where you create a tenously related, but different argument than the original, then knock that self-created "strawman" down to claim the "victory." The topic was how SLH could be leading the poll. You gave reasons why you were surprised. I gave you reasons why I'm not. You then thought it foolish for the OP to be bound by his poll (which was not the topic being debated, and so a strawman). You then questioned whether or not you were able to say anything more on the subject in general (again, not the original argument but another strawman you created). It's Rhetoric 101. Anyway, I certainly hope you do not limit yourself in your posts, and am if fact glad you chimed in with mention of these other strains of haze. Still, I'm not surprised SLH is the leading GHS haze.
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You know there is no real difference between you're expressing your lack of amazement about SLH leading the pack and my amazement that it is. Both are opinions but both are based on differences, like knowledge.

The first message said:

I'm looking to grow for the first time and I've been really sold on Green House as the seedbank I wanna buy from
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So it was not only a poll about what Green House Seeds Haze strain is the best but also which the OP should purchase. He/she was/is at least to some degree relying on what others say to make a final decision.

Rather than sticking only with a mid-grade breeder line that is famous for knockoffs and hermie prone strains I offered many far better options. I was attempting to help the OP in a way that you seem to believe is unimportant. I was hoping that I could sway the OP from making an error in what they purchased. You see only sticking to Green House Seeds strains as being all important since they were what was asked about.

I apologize to the OP for having attempted to keep them from making a mistake and I apologize to you for having attempted to help the OP more than you have or more than others in this thread have.

With that being said, I will not butt out and leave you and the others to attempt to convince the OP to purchase genetics that have already become famous for their tendency to turn hermie. I am positive that when he has balls and bananas popping up all over and seedy pot that he will be most grateful to you and others like you who helped convince him to purchase an unstable 'flavor of the month' strain that all the lil' puppies here are going all Lady Gaga over rather than purchasing quality stable genetics.
 
Brick Top

Brick Top

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Pew said:
As Per greenhouseseeds.nl, Green House Strains Statistics..

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I guess Arjan tells so many lies about Green House Seeds strains that he can't keep them all straight.

The one chart, the THC level chart, says White Widow has 16.60%THC.

The way he advertises it on The Attitude is different:

Green House Seeds White Widow Feminized

Price: £27.99

Feminized Seeds Per Pack
Quantity:

Sex : Feminized
Type : Indica / Sativa
Flowering : Photoperiod
Genetics : Brazilian and South Indian.
Flowering Time : Medium
Outdoor Harvest : October
Height : Tall
THC Level : 20%
Characteristics : Extremely strong indica feeling, with a creepy sativa high to complement the effect.
The yield chart says White Widow yields 700gr/m2

His advertisement says

Green House Seeds White Widow is the most potent cannabis on Earth and is named for the abundance of trichomes, giving the plant a whitish tint. It is also one of the more powerful strains of marijuana (alongside AK-47 and Afghan Kush) with a very high 20%-25% THC content. (Note that he went from saying 20% THC to 20% to 25% THC. That's a BIG jump from the 16.6% stated in the chart.)

White Widow feminized seeds are (60%/40%) indica/sativa cross-strain and is best suited to indoor cannabis cultivation. Our feminized seeds grow as high as 35-80 cm with the yield up to 450 gr per m2

If you watch the video you find following the link you will hear Arjan claim that White Widow was HIS creation. At 1:34 into the video he claims he invented/created it. He even claims that Green House Seeds and Green House Seeds alone has the one true genetics of the strain.

Anyone and everyone that knows even the slightest bit of cannabis history knows both of those claims are pure lies.

http://greenhouseseeds.nl/shop/feminised-cannabis-seeds/white-widow-feminised.html
 
Pew

Pew

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Seedfinder.eu lists GHS WW at THC: 12% CBD: 1.4% CBN: 0.6%. Reminds me of the car companys.. *Your actual mileage may vary..
 
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