What would prove GOD does/doesn't exists?

Az-uar Iam

Az-uar Iam

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Dalek Supreme said:
First off science is not opinion. It's evidence based, and changes based on evidence. Of course you know this, but had to get it out of the way.

As for me:

I did LSD when I was younger. I see how people would think of it as some paranormal experience. The thing is it's manifesting the subconscious because of the neurochemical roadblocking going on.

For instance while tripping in the woods I went to urinate. I was urinating when I realized I better be careful because I was away from the group. That instance Predator (from the movie of the same name) appeared in the distance. It was cloaked, jumping from tree to tree coming towards me till it lept at me with me laughing knowing it was an hallucination. The point is as soon I thought of danger my subconscious dumped it's normal background processes into my visual processes. It gave me a different kind of predator instead of the woodsy kind. Now think of what the subconscious would come up with when someone is of the mindset that such a drugs opens your mind to the "spirit world"?

I had a relative that was schizo-typal (not full on). She would make irrational connections to things to support her views while completely ignoring the rational against it. She would think that words of reason would somehow manifest to mess things up. She would sometimes hallucinate things, and think she was being told a message. She had imaginary enemies out of Hollywood celebrities. Yet to people unaware of this would think she was normal.

On rare occasions I would have a waking hallucination. Now thanks to science I know it's just dreamstate neurochemistry following me in my awake state.

One time I had a Dopamine dump brought on by sleep deprivation. I saw auras around objects. I felt euphoric, and felt at one with the universe through spatial displacement. Irrational concepts made perfect sense. I also see how addictive the experience can be to people. People who fast, and meditate for this experience are seen as noble, but in reality are Dope addicts.

So yes I speak from experience, and understanding through science.

People want to abuse their brains, and think their word salad contains truth because it feels good. When one thinks they have special knowledge that's not demonstrable, it's the ancient motivating part of the brain that's overriding the modern thinking part.
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You're a right but what to you do when there's demonstrable proof? Science can't explain what produced the Big Bang, but the universal has left clues that will eventually allow it to explain itself.
 
BionicΩChronic

BionicΩChronic

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Az-uar Iam said:
It's true but goes much further back than Christians. That's the way you had to see it, just as we all will have a different way of seeing the same thing, leading back to the ONE. If Christianity is true, then I assume you wouldn't fear the antichrist.
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I won't be around to witness him/her/they either by rapture or death. But no I do not fear the end of the world.


And rightly so will die before I see a new world order. Guns in my hands. No micro chips is gonna be put in my hand or forhead (mark of beast) (money)
 
sharptater

sharptater

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Laws of physics as we understand them now, say energy cannot be created or destroyed. So everything that was, is still in existence in some form.
 
sharptater

sharptater

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The way I think about it at some point the "big bang" happened that created all things as we know and understand them today. Started with the most basic of elements, then formed stars. "let there be light" stars forming created more complex elements. Basically a chain reaction of events over billions or however much time it took to get to us at this moment in time to argue over this lol.
 
sharptater

sharptater

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No I wasn't there. Just stating what we as humans understand at the moment. Idk if that's true. Just what we as humans believe now in time.
 
sharptater

sharptater

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To me this is a pointless argument. I know no more than anyone alive today. No matter what we believe it could change. Reality itself is subjective to me. My reality and yours could be completely different. Who's to say who's right or wrong.
 
sharptater

sharptater

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To me there is no right or wrong. Who's to say what is right or wrong in the first place. What I think is wrong could be right to someone else. So who's right? I do think there has to be balance. Yin and yang so to speak. Just like all of us who enjoy smoking marijuana, there is alot of people who consider it "wrong" and we consider it to be "right" who's right in that situation?
 
jonnyquest

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Right this is it, so check it yeah. A man comes out of nowhere and starts going around tellling everybody he's God, nobody believes him but he doesn't even care because why would they right? so he goes to the big city and does some regular miracles for youtube videos, stuff like floating a little bit and difficult card tricks, still tells everybody he's God so he gets a bit more attention. He ends up giving an interview for the local news. as the interview starts he freezes everyone with his godly stare and announces that to prove his divinity he is going to do something only the alpha and omega your holy creator would be capable of doing... and that's it with his audience
and interviewer still dazed he leaves. the video of this interview goes viral and near everybody see's it soon enough and just like all things of this nature when nothing instantly
materialises the people forget, as swiftly as there attention was drawn it is forgotten. that is until Christmas morning of 1965
when every child wakes up to realise that all the colours are wrong, red has become purple, green yellow, the once blue oceans now shimmer a most morose shade of maroon and what's more it is different for everybody so now it's impossible to agree on what colour anything is and checking trichomes can no longer be relied upon as a source of being able to tell when to harvestn.

if that happens I think I'd would prove it.
also God was black.
 
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Jacob Alexander Jones

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I feel like this question of "does God exist" will go forever unanswered until we die but what I can tell you death is imminent everywhere on earth and there's nothing we can do to stop it. I actually died and had an out of body experience. It was very intriguing. It was so calm and peaceful.
 
sharptater

sharptater

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My opinion of the original ? Does god exist or not. Idk. Idk if anyone alive today will know for sure. I also believe if god does exist, it wont be as we believe today. I was raised as a Christian does that mean I believe everything I've been taught, no. I have my own experiences in life that led me to believe today, that idk and neither does anyone. No preacher or pope or anyone else is gonna convince me otherwise. They know no more than I do. Even as Christianity is today as I understand it the antichrist will come then jesus then the millennium, thousand years of peace on earth. What after that? We don't know. If that is even real. All I am saying is idk whats gonna happen
 
sharptater

sharptater

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Jacob Alexander Jones said:
I feel like this question of "does God exist" will go forever unanswered until we die but what I can tell you death is imminent everywhere on earth and there's nothing we can do to stop it. I actually died and had an out of body experience. It was very intriguing. It was so calm and peaceful.
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Thats one thing we can agree on death is imminent. Everyone alive today will be dead at some point. I hope when I die i'm at peace. I hate over thinking everything I just want peace.
 
Levradus

Levradus

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In my opinion,

Only you can create your reality with god r without , one god or many does not matter it is all upon you and how well you observe your journey.
Most of times i get shocked by the view of nature and the apperance of the instances in my life kinda miracle.
Either dis-capacitated power inside us and letting ourselves taste how to be mortal and knowing our capabilities for a much complicated and unique experiences.

At the end I think noone can find a god from a book, he can be relied upon that god from book but when he found his god as a outcome of his life incidents and journeys much more valuable and worthy.

Anyways I would love to god touch my plants and let them Roooar
 
Levradus

Levradus

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Mostly I belive We are ONE in many thinking opposite and personalizing ourselves working for shit and fearing from each other is fucking us .
 
Az-uar Iam

Az-uar Iam

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We are ONE. We're selling ourselves short on how important we are to the rest of the cosmos.

To me, "God" is not a thing, it's a figment of the universal imagination, so it can't be found in the physical realm. But if we let the universe explain itself, we become witnesses to the manifestation of "God" in the ether.

If we could imagine "it" as the original WONDER, then everything after that is trying to live up to what we think is the previous Wonder. Not knowing that our existing wonder distracts us from understanding where all prior Wonders come from. You could say "God" knows all because the WONDER, although unaware, already contains the answers to any questions that will come. But being oblivious to its own ability, it's almost impossible to make itself known. While at the same time, making it harder for us understand because we don't acknowledge the initial result of the original WONDER. In my eyes, NOTHING matters is because it was unknowingly the 1st to Wonder of Being.
Dalek Supreme said:
Then it becomes it becomes scientific fact. That's how it works.



Yes, and scientists like Sean Carroll are working on it.

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So am I. Science can get us close, but it's requires a meeting of the mind to understand how important NOTHING was, is, & will always be. Our ignorance of this allows us to fall for anything we're being fed.
 
Levradus

Levradus

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Az-uar Iam said:
To me, "God" is not a thing, it's a figment of the universal imagination, so it can't be found in the physical realm. But if we let the universe explain itself, we become witnesses to the manifestation of "God" in the ether.



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Fuvk yeah love that
Stop reading the other part to thank about this
Having miserable times and seeing miracles it is gods way

Only thing we can do sit aside and watch,
how harmonic it is although we do not get it
 
Az-uar Iam

Az-uar Iam

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You must be playing Squidward, because you are totally asleep. I've accepted your excuse, & I'm ok that you don't acknowledge mine. Question is who is gonna be affected more by being proven wrong?
 
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