What to fight for..

Padawanbater2

Well-Known Member
What would you fight for, what would you die for?

Anything?

How would someone rise up like they did in the past and fight for what's right today?

I don't even know how that would happen.. Is it possible?
 

Rob Roy

Well-Known Member
Every person has the natural right to self defense. I go along with that. Fighting over who gets to tell other people what to do IS the major problem though. Some people are very good at twisting their idea into a MUST DO for others. Therein lies the problem.

Rising up ? I think the best way is to proliferate ideas. Freedom carries reciprocity...you leave me alone, I leave you alone. Despite the simplicity of that idea, it hasn't taken hold, that's why I'm here.
 

desert dude

Well-Known Member
Every person has the natural right to self defense. I go along with that. Fighting over who gets to tell other people what to do IS the major problem though. Some people are very good at twisting their idea into a MUST DO for others. Therein lies the problem.

Rising up ? I think the best way is to proliferate ideas. Freedom carries reciprocity...you leave me alone, I leave you alone. Despite the simplicity of that idea, it hasn't taken hold, that's why I'm here.
Words to live by. Unfortunately, most don't.
 

medicineman

New Member
Words to live by. Unfortunately, most don't.
Could "You help me, I'll help you" Or play nice, get nice, or other words that mean we are all in this together, (LIFE), be of any consideration? Or is it mostly I've got mine, fuck you, that rings true today?
 

gioua

Well-Known Member
Jesus Christ... NOT the answer most of you expect.. but. Thats my answer.

and by Fight .. I do mean defend.. you have the right to follow your lead..
 

InCognition

Active Member
What would you fight for, what would you die for?

Anything?

How would someone rise up like they did in the past and fight for what's right today?

I don't even know how that would happen.. Is it possible?
The only way I see a violent up-rising in the USA, is after a massive economic disaster or natural disaster.

Of course the government has already committed treason upon it's people, it's duties, and it's self, on so many levels it's not funny... but if there was an organized uprising based on the essence of such, that uprising would be tamed unless it happened very, very fast, on a large scale. I just don't see something like that being able to occur currently, but who knows. If we were to hit 50% income-tax rates, that type of stuff has a possibility of happening, much more so than now.

On a very basic, fundamental level, this government has violated so many natural, human-rights, it's really an atrocity. That type of beast is something worth fighting against, but then again, it's mostly a lost cause unless you have a lot of people go all-in, very quickly.

Of course in the coming years, I could very well be locked up for this same statement, even though it's entirely free speech. Who knows if the internet as we know it, will even exist anymore. This government has turned into a bunch of clowns who are steadily eliminating rights, rather than preserving them. I honestly think it will get better though, as the generation past that of the "baby-boomers", is witnessing the misconduct of this treasonous government on a daily basis. I think more people are waking up to the lunacy this government is committing, but I'm not entirely positive on that, because let's face it, there are a lot of very stupid people out there, and I have no real idea what percentage of the population they make up.
 

greenlikemoney

Well-Known Member
As to an uprising in this country, although the federal government can squash us just like they do foreign citizens, the fallout from countries decrying the lack of FREEDOM ( i.e. the government is "talking the talk but not walking the walk" ) would be too much for them to sustain and retain world respect, if we even have any of that left globally.

Just my opinion.
 

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
As to an uprising in this country, although the federal government can squash us just like they do foreign citizens, the fallout from countries decrying the lack of FREEDOM ( i.e. the government is "talking the talk but not walking the walk" ) would be too much for them to sustain and retain world respect, if we even have any of that left globally.

Just my opinion.
China shows the lacking threat of that impediment. cn
 

Rob Roy

Well-Known Member
Could "You help me, I'll help you" Or play nice, get nice, or other words that mean we are all in this together, (LIFE), be of any consideration? Or is it mostly I've got mine, fuck you, that rings true today?
Your question is a good one. The option of helping another or not should always exist though. We "owe" each other the right to be left alone, nothing more nothing less. If a person is MADE to assist others the person making them do this is violating the first principle....the right to be left alone. Moral of the story charity is good, forcing others to provide "charity" ? Not so good... then it ceases to be charity and becomes an act of aggression.
 

canndo

Well-Known Member
What would you fight for, what would you die for?

Anything?

How would someone rise up like they did in the past and fight for what's right today?

I don't even know how that would happen.. Is it possible?

I am willing to fight and die for my right to tell others what they should fight and die for.
 

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
Your question is a good one. The option of helping another or not should always exist though. We "owe" each other the right to be left alone, nothing more nothing less. If a person is MADE to assist others the person making them do this is violating the first principle....the right to be left alone. Moral of the story charity is good, forcing others to provide "charity" ? Not so good... then it ceases to be charity and becomes an act of aggression.
Rob Roy, do you distinguish between aggression and coercion? cn
 

Rob Roy

Well-Known Member
Rob Roy, do you distinguish between aggression and coercion? cn
They can be distinct. One can follow the other. They often are tactics employed by people or organizations that fail to abide by my core principles.

I'm curious why you ask?
 
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