What To Do About The MG Soil?

Zcomfort

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I've posted this before and really didn't get an answer. I got ten seedlings planted in MG soil. There about three weeks old. First of all is there anyway to get rid of the time release bs. When can you feed them? Scotts says I can feed them after 30 days of being planted. They were started outside at a friends house and I had to put them inside which they will stay until sometime in June. Then they will be moved outside for a guerilla grow. I want to be organic the rest of the way with my soil and use teas to feed them. I just keep on thinking there no since cause the food last for four to six months and that long as or longer than the season. I need RIU help bad.
 

Ai9184

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I would transplant out of the MG, those time released nutes are gonna give you hell throughout your whole grow. Find a new soil like promix, FF, and transplant asap. If promix and FF are exteremly overpriced in your area like mine i would use miracle grow organic choice which isnt time released and not as bad as everyone says.
 

ewtinaboot

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Back in the day......(couple months ago) I had the same prob. I carefully dug around the pathetic roots in the mg and removed as much soil as I could out of it. I dumped a bunch of Roots organic potting soil in there and gave them a good soaking with a few drops of superthrive or the likes. They experienced no noticeable shock and did great pretty much immediately after that. Hope it helps. Mg sucks but if your broke it sort-a works ok. If your gonna keep the mg soil, go light on the nitrogen for about the first 20-30 days depending on how much water you give 'em- more water now helps flush out the time released crap. You gonna make your own tea btw?
 

snew

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If your planting the beginning of June you only got 2 weeks left. If they are in a big enough pot I would leave them alone. No need to transplant them2 times in 2 weeks. I would put my focus on prepping my soul where the will be long term. Dig a deep hole and supplement.
 

Zcomfort

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If your planting the beginning of June you only got 2 weeks left. If they are in a big enough pot I would leave them alone. No need to transplant them2 times in 2 weeks. I would put my focus on prepping my soul where the will be long term. Dig a deep hole and supplement.
Yea, that is the plan and my main focus. I havent figured out how Im going to do the soil. This grow is a practice grow and don't get me wrong I will take care of these given plants(supposely durban poison), but I believe it's just bag seed. So I plan on digging a couple spots about 3'x3'x1' deep, teal it up and amend it with compost, maybe some sand(perlite) if its clay and water it with teas. I want to make this an easy start up and I am not for sure what to do with the soil. Just trying to keep it simple and plan big for next summer for the nothern lights and four other types of seeds grow. So I could also use help with a simple soil amending. I have some Alaskan humus and and guano four pack being shipped today which will be nice. Thanks guys.
 

PeacefulKid1992

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you can feed em like in about 4 weeks old, but dont over feed beacuse it can kill em
and they wont grow faster by over feeding em
 

Zcomfort

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Im starting a vegetable garden as well an in it I use 12 1.5 cf bags of compost, 10lb bag of slag, and 4 cups(8 handfulls) of fox farms happy frog all purpose organic (5-5-5). You think that would be good?
 

snew

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Im starting a vegetable garden as well an in it I use 12 1.5 cf bags of compost, 10lb bag of slag, and 4 cups(8 handfulls) of fox farms happy frog all purpose organic (5-5-5). You think that would be good?
Not sure what slag is. The best recommendation I know for anyone is to test the soil. You can send samples to your local agriculture office. There usually associated with a state university. follow the instructions for all gathering the dirt and list it as a vegetable garden. No more guess work. They will tell you the breakdown of the soil and what it needs. It cheap and easy.
Vegetable gardens are fun. You'll learn tons and you can talk to locals about your problems in the garden and apply it to your MJ garden.
You need to look at "double dig" preparation for your soil. Its a lot of work but its worth it and practical on a small area. I looked up double dig on you tube and everybody is turning already worked soil so it looks easy. Depending on the soil it can be lots of work but its worth it.
 

SCARHOLE

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I grow in Mg soil an use Mg nutes and love them.
My plants start getting fed about 2 weeks with fullstrength nutes as the directions say.
No problems with Mg soil (with Dolomatic Hydralic lime.)
Ive seen Mg outgrow Fox in tests here.

I treid not feeding one plant (chemo iranian) for a month an it about killed it.
Everyone said it was super nute sensitive.
So I tred just using Mg soil for nutes.
It sucked.

I dont see how everyone has Mg soil an burnig tips?
Heres a pic of lemon skunk 3 weeks old.
Mg soil Mg nutes every water since birth......
Photo0377.jpg
 

Zcomfort

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Slag is a material that gets pulled off the top after the smelting of iron ore. It has many applications, but Im using it like lime which I was told it would be better than this time of year. It also boron, calcium, and lots of other things.

I dont like MG soil because its not organic, not enough perlite(fluffy N/A), and you dont know when to feed them. I called scotts, they told me I could feed them in thirty days. I just dont believe them for some reason.

I mixed up liquidkarma, florliciousplus, and eartjuice's molasses and been watering with that. I think it ended up b'ing a bacteria tea, which is good. So Im get some organics in there while the fulvic acid makes the plants get rid of that mg bs. Hopefully it works, Im not know for b'ing the brightest crayon.
 

snew

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Sounds like you got it figured out to your satisfaction and thats all you need to do. Good Luck
 

Zcomfort

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Sounds like you got it figured out to your satisfaction and thats all you need to do. Good Luck
Maybe to my satisfaction but dosnt means it will work. I imagine it will though. Ok so do guerrill growers plant like 3 to 5 plants in 3'x3' area or less?
This may be a bad idea I havent scope the place out yet. I was thinking about also doing some container gardens at this abandon concrete place.
 

farmerjoe420

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Maybe to my satisfaction but dosnt means it will work. I imagine it will though. Ok so do guerrill growers plant like 3 to 5 plants in 3'x3' area or less?
This may be a bad idea I havent scope the place out yet. I was thinking about also doing some container gardens at this abandon concrete place.

try like a 2x2 hole per plant. plants need room to grow and you also want space between the plants. space them like you would tomatoes. i dig a 2x2x2 hole per plant and space them 4 ft apart. i also LST and need room for tying down.
 

Zcomfort

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try like a 2x2 hole per plant. plants need room to grow and you also want space between the plants. space them like you would tomatoes. i dig a 2x2x2 hole per plant and space them 4 ft apart. i also LST and need room for tying down.
That sounds like a great way to get caught by the ganja chopper. Now if I was on my on property it would work cause it would look like a legit garden. Plus that would be a hell of lot of effort just to get it taken and mayb go to jail for. I guess it dpends on the area.
 

vradd

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if you look at your soil closely.. you'll see the small time release pellets. they look like small pills and if you squeeze them they excrete the nutes. same concept goes as to why they are slow release.. because it takes a bit of time to desolve the casings via water.
 

farmerjoe420

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That sounds like a great way to get caught by the ganja chopper. Now if I was on my on property it would work cause it would look like a legit garden. Plus that would be a hell of lot of effort just to get it taken and mayb go to jail for. I guess it dpends on the area.

sometimes the lazy road isnt the best road to take but to each his own
 

Zcomfort

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sometimes the lazy road isnt the best road to take but to each his own
My way is not lazy way by no means. Im still taking dirt, fertz, and water perhaps and sweating my balls off. Just in my area it wouldn't make sense to do a row garden an after all that effort put out to get an awesome garden I found out that the garden's shape got me caught, plus I don't have the money to feel those holes
 

greenjumble

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I think people are just pointing out the health concerns around using miracle grow. I'm using Happy Frog organic All purpose 5-5-5. You could mix that in with some lime into a plane base soil and then just throw some other teas onto it later.
 
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