chuck estevez
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Like I said, it contains TRACE minerals, like spitting in the ocean, same effect.
from your link,
the primary thing that makes molasses the best sugar for agricultural use is it's trace minerals.
what supliments to use with general hydroponics floranova bloom? thanks.
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from your link,
the primary thing that makes molasses the best sugar for agricultural use is it's trace minerals.
yesismoke
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My horse has much more in his urine . I rather use that .
941mick
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Me too, and that's my point. There are levels when it comes to sources and molasses is poor choice for what you are trying to accomplish.
BROBIE
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Trace meaning MICRONUTES like in your beloved Dyna.
chuck estevez
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I understand what trace means, iron,copper,etc. But it is such small amount, it really is a waste of time and i saw more problems using it then not.
using molasses in a tea, now you are talking.
With regard to feeding compost tea microbe population (liquid environment, not solids), in my opinion there is no equal in the field, to Dr. Ingham. However, tea must be aerated and fed more than just molasses to accomplish such objective effectively. [11]
yesismoke
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Kelp and humics fed to them works well too for the fungi
chuck estevez
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humic and fulvics are a must
churchhaze
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chuck estevez
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it's even organic based
urban1026835
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just stole that for my sig if you don't mind there chuck.
So, it's not that it won't do anything, but an "I think" cost/benefit opinion?
That hardly seems like a basis for the harsh tone you take.
I thought the point of molasses was to feed the beneficial microbes in the soil, not the plants directly. (I know people refer to the minerals as an added benefit.).
churchhaze
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The problem (or benefit) of adding sugar to your soil or water is that it affects the osmotic gradient of the plants vascular system.
Salts also affect the osmotic gradient in the same way sugar does, only the salts are actually taken up and used to make proteins and "plant stuff".
Too much sugar in your water will cause a backwards gradient, causing water to be sucked out of the roots, causing the leaves to shrivel and wilt.
Salts also affect the osmotic gradient in the same way sugar does, only the salts are actually taken up and used to make proteins and "plant stuff".
Too much sugar in your water will cause a backwards gradient, causing water to be sucked out of the roots, causing the leaves to shrivel and wilt.
churchhaze
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With soft fruits like tomatoes, an overly hypotonic solution could risk tomatoes rupturing.
Of course... this is all sort of overly theoretical. Let's stick to adult name calling. Using molasses is dumb you dumb idiots!
Just feed your plants!
Of course... this is all sort of overly theoretical. Let's stick to adult name calling. Using molasses is dumb you dumb idiots!
Just feed your plants!
That implies sugar doesn't have a benefit like salts and therefore isn't worth the osmotic affect. Does this mean sugar doesn't feed beneficial microbes, or that their health doesn't matter?
churchhaze
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In short, no. The bacteria involved in the nitrate cycle are nitrifying bacteria, and they get their energy from either ammonia or nitrite.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nitrifying_bacteria
There are 2 types. 1 kind turns ammonia into nitrites, and the other kind turns nitrites into nitrates.
The plant can take up both ammonium and nitrate ions. Ammonium uptake is is more associated with that jade glossy green, and since it's a +1 ion, it will antagonize potassium, while nitrate antagonizes phosphate.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nitrosomonas
"This organism oxidizes ammonia into nitrite as a metabolic process."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nitrifying_bacteria
There are 2 types. 1 kind turns ammonia into nitrites, and the other kind turns nitrites into nitrates.
The plant can take up both ammonium and nitrate ions. Ammonium uptake is is more associated with that jade glossy green, and since it's a +1 ion, it will antagonize potassium, while nitrate antagonizes phosphate.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nitrosomonas
"This organism oxidizes ammonia into nitrite as a metabolic process."
yesismoke
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So my outdoor using organic i dont feed my soil. Come on !what breaks down the kelp and fish, seabird gauno and alfalfa? ?