What Strainbase do you use?

Gbuddy

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If it comes to research for strains I often had a hard time.
going from one breeders homepage to the next were a pain in the ass for me.

There were a lot strainbases to come and go over the past two decades.

Now I use one page most of the time.

SeedFinfer.eu

They have advantages and disadvantages at this place.

advantage imo is you can search by name aswell as time to finish flowering or by userranking of a strain.
Also the list of breeders is very complete.

Disadvantage imo is that the comments users can leave on the bottom of each strains page can be confusing and can be easyly pimped by resellers and breeders by stating wrong facts.

For example.... ketama xaeon by wos is said by a user to finish in the beginning of august. That made me ordering the strain. I tested it and it not even started flowering in the beginning of august.

That means you have to be careful with those user comments on strains.

Now I would like to know what strainbase you are using most of the time when you research strains and their genetics.

Thanks in advance

Peace
 
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thewanderer718

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I also use SeedFinder.eu but i never trust any of the finishing dates as i have found none of them to be true yet especially from breeder because they are just trying to sale seeds. i love the post and will continue to check back to see what other comment you get.
 

Gbuddy

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I also use SeedFinder.eu but i never trust any of the finishing dates as i have found none of them to be true yet especially from breeder because they are just trying to sale seeds. i love the post and will continue to check back to see what other comment you get.
Thanks bro for the post and your opinion.

I have the same experience with finishing dates provided by breeders. Thats why I went with the comment of a user with the ketama xaeon lol but was just a lie too. Guess it was a pimped comment by a reseller to up sales to get rid of the old or hard to sell beans in his fridge.
I agree 100% with you that most descriptions and finishing dates are just a marketing thing to sell more.
ok maybe not all but the most.
but the function that enable a user of the strainbase to leave a comment on every strain, opens the door for resellers and breeders to write what they want. And they do. They do much more if not all to sell more beans. Thats their buisness.

I observed often that in the absolute same style of writing/spelling strains were commented but under different names.

Also the "hermie" comments are shady. Most of the time you have noobs posting this. But imagine they had lightleaks as big as my palm in flower maybe. Its easy to end up with hermies due to noob mistakes.

I most of the time use intuition and feedback from real forums for the first step choosing a breeder for the strain I want to buy.

Edit
I realy love the way how seedfinder displays pedigree information.
 
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Gbuddy

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Add 2 weeks to any number suggested by a breeder and there's your flower time
Hi anzohaze :-)
Yes most of the time you will get close with ^^ this

Edit
I just dont look at finishing date anymore because its always wrong. Some people realy should learn to stick to the truth imo.
I am looking into pedigree.
 
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anzohaze

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Hi anzohaze :-)
Yes most of the time you will get close with ^^ this

Edit
I just dont look at finishing date anymore because its always wrong. Some people realy should learn to stick to the truth imo.
I am looking into pedigree.
I let my flower go. I will not even look at trics or anything until I feel my buds are pretty hard or dense then I look at overall plant to figure out when she's ready
 

TheHermit

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For example.... ketama xaeon by wos is said by a user to finish in the beginning of august. That made me ordering the strain. I tested it and it not even started flowering in the beginning of august.
A lot of that might be due to the latitude of the grower, although the beginning of August sounds way too early for any non autoflowering strain.
 

Gbuddy

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A lot of that might be due to the latitude of the grower, although the beginning of August sounds way too early for any non autoflowering strain.
Hi TheHermit
good point bro.
but the guy was pretty close to my location as far as I can judge.

Imagine beginning of august what a gift.....even mid to end of august would be a dream because it means getting rid of powdery mildew issues as well as botrytis in my corner of the woods bro.
one day we will have a outdoor strain with a REAL finishing date mid/end august.
its just that no breeder seems to be able to do the work or making more money with selling the newest hype of the year gear.
its just a breeding thing.
and the more legal grounds we have the sooner serious people will engage in breeding realy special cannabis strains. It takes time and numbers to get flowering starting earlier due to selection but it can be done.
 

TheHermit

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Have you tried any autos outdoor. I don't do much outdoor these days because I live in an urban area, but I gave some friends some auto fem seeds that I was never going to grow. I gave them to a friend that lives in the middle of nowhere and he harvested at the beginning of August. The yields seemed much better outdoors on the autos compared to indoors. Auto x photo hybrids are known to start flowering much earlier also. I have never tried any yet though.
 

Gbuddy

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Have you tried any autos outdoor. I don't do much outdoor these days because I live in an urban area, but I gave some friends some auto fem seeds that I was never going to grow. I gave them to a friend that lives in the middle of nowhere and he harvested at the beginning of August. The yields seemed much better outdoors on the autos compared to indoors. Auto x photo hybrids are known to start flowering much earlier also. I have never tried any yet though.
Yes I did funny you ask now.
did my first experimenting this year with autos. But I totaly fucked it up. Planted beginning of may should have started 4 weeks earlier. Gave them way too much rootspace and they needed forever to start flowering.

the plan was starting may...breeders say plant produces three to four sets of leafes prior flowering.... so I was counting about two weeks for the start and finishing time for about end july.
but fuck it took month for them to start flowering they got two feet tall untill they started and finished beginning of august with about 10g per plant. But I guess it was completly my fault. Less rootspace would have done the trick I guess.
 

Gbuddy

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Auto x photo hybrids are known to start flowering much earlier also. I have never tried any yet though.
Yes I know ....
I think its sweet seeds offering those as " fast f1" or something like that.
but I like to breed too and you can not reproduce this fast f1's. The auto genes are hidden because the trait needs two auto gens to express the trait. In the f1 is 1 auto + 1 photo and no auto expression here.
when you interbreed this f1 (auto x photo) non auto plants you will have autos and photos split in the offspring. What means you will have autos and photos in f2.
(Auto x photo) x (auto x photo) results in 2auto 2photo
thats why you have autos and photos in f2.
If you now select for the photos of the f2 and go from there the early flowering trait is gone as far as my judgement goes. Because the auto trait is bred out. Dunno if I am right on that but ...

that would mean you have to do the f1 cross each time to produce the sooner flowering "fast f1" seeds.
but it can not be the same cross because you cant keep autos as motherplants. So you cant use the same parental stock.
means outcome would always be of different kind and quality. A bit like roulette.

You know what I mean bro?

Edit
and I have no idea how to deal with this honestly. :eyesmoke:
 
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TubeAndJar

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Seedfinder.eu is where I look for lineage and other crosses made with a particular strain. Leafly.com is a great place to look for smoke reports but doesn't really have any grow info.
Breeders are slow on updating their own sites. It's really lame when some company release some expensive seeds but you can't find any reliable information. Best you can do is ask them directly on Instagram or something and hope they respond.
 
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