2ANONYMOUS
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You just make sure when it goes over what you paid you get the fuck out CASH out cause its been split and dividends have been paid now its only a hook for the fish that will never make money in it
what r the best Ballast out on the market ???
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a mongo frog
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Its over already. I cant get out now. What happens if the whole commercial garden movement goes to the 3590. Like every garden in the world will be cree chips.You just make sure when it goes over what you paid you get the fuck out CASH out cause its been split and dividends have been paid now its only a hook for the fish that will never make money in it
2ANONYMOUS
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Mongo i am sure there is going to be another big boy on the block shortly appears every 5 -6 years some new lighting tech comes into play DE;s then CMH , plasma , now 3590's trust me them Chinese will come up with something out of this world lol they always do
ttystikk
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The driving/resulting economies of scale would have breathtaking implications for the efficiency of growing indoors, anywhere power can be acquired or generated. Imagine an indoor growing movement built around ever better and less expensive COB LED chips, both lighting and heating homes of the future while growing food and medicine for their occupants.
Welcome to the future; we ARE that movement. I'm just one of many building it, block by foundational block.
2ANONYMOUS
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This is how i see it the future of growing is going to eventually stop indoor you know when prices start to double in the few years to come from power to food to double taxes its inevitable specially in USA the real movement is of course what the world is in fact talking about reduction of fossil fuels and the green movement i honestly think green house growing will be the fastest movement of them all Sun power being self sufficient , i will post up some pictures shortly of new green house builds as well as not only MJ but food that is what its all about being self sufficient in producing your own power , food , and other resources off grid power is the future and being able to survive when prices climb over the roof
ITS COMING .. already got hundreds of plants growing from califlower to cucumbers potatoes carrots tomatoes anyone see the prices of califlower now holy fuck yup time to become truly self sufficient
of new green house builds as well as not only MJ but food that is what its all about being self sufficient in producing your own power , food , and other resources off grid power is the future and being able to survive when prices climb over the roof ITS COMING .. already got hundreds of plants growing from califlower to cucumbers potatoes carrots tomatoes anyone see the prices of califlower now holy fuck yup time to become truly self sufficient
SPLFreak808
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Ah i see the confusion, no i was comparing the "all in one" de kits vs the galaxy ballast(or any matching 1200w 400v strike ballast), philips de bulb and sun ac/de hood. That combo puts out 40-50% more par then the gavita fixture can do by itself.Nah like i said for instance only to make a 400 watt Cob diy unit your looking at what honestly ??? Canada here cobs after converting to USA not including shipping was 7100.00 for 120 cobs that is a shit load of cash shipping not included specially at currency exchange rates etc ... 3590's only you still need heat sinks holders lens or reflectors like i said wiring and the box now this is for 6000 watts i cold of very easily ordered 16 1215 watt units for the price of cobs
@ 3 pounds per light or lets round it up 20,000 watts so 16 x 3 48 pound harvest you can safely say 6000 watts of Cobs are not going to get them numbers but hey might put them in one green house and do a grow
I am lucky thou have a master appliance electrician that does this shit anxious in putting them together as he is also interested in it
I see your point about cobs. It can get expensive but for some people (such as myself) it would save me money in just 2 years. But I've been an electrical engineer for 15+ years, i know for a fact that those chips will be outdated and half priced by the time i get my money worth. I'll wait a few more years to get a better first impression.
ttystikk
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Then either you suck at math as an electrical engineer or you suck at growing, bro- because if you can't get a $50 COB to grow you an ounce of pot in six months, I'd say it's time to find a new hobby!
It's all love, I'm just razzin' on you a bit brother, but for real now, it ain't that hard to make these chips pay their way in this dodge!
2ANONYMOUS
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do you have actual tests to prove that ??? cause No way its proven fact that running air cooled let alone in glass you lose 10-15 percent percent right off the bat Here is a outside test comparison
SPLFreak808
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No i do not own a sensor to test for myself yet. Here is the pdf i swept through though. I honestly forgot where i found the test at, but they had the glass installed and it's what pushed me away from e-paps retarded hood.
swagslayer420
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I run UV-B T5HO in my cob set-up as side lighting seems to help
SPLFreak808
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Honestly bro, im getting tired of growing lol i just dont have time for it now days, im so busy with work and home renovation ect. Anyways i have not been keeping up with the prices on chips lately but it seems they already started dropping a bit! I would need a 2400 watt hid replacement just for flower alone, probably around 1200-1400 watts of chips depending on how i run them, i need efficiency so yeah, big chip count.. Not something i want to deal with yet but as i stated, it WILL save me money.
swagslayer420
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the cons of DE
produces heat.. a lot of it
requires 100hr break-in time on DE bulb
Height from canopy
produces heat.. a lot of it
requires 100hr break-in time on DE bulb
Height from canopy
2ANONYMOUS
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that is far fetched sure they produce heat but for instance my 400 watt cob units running at 52 percent efficient ??? what is the other 48 percent producing ???? come on say it HEAT i have never had a break in time turnning on a DE Unit let her Buck ,,
swagslayer420
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no it is not far fetched at all a DE bulb takes 100 hours to break in for proper spectrum also the DE has to heat up to about 500degrees for full proper spectrum to be reached that's why its is advised to not run cold air over de lamp like you can with SE
you can turn it on and roll no problem but full spectrum isn't reached till around 100hrs
swagslayer420
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yeah growershouse.com does
swagslayer420
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and back to what this thread was all about
ttystikk
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Here's my new favorite ballast, guaranteed to outperform anything else here;
It runs 4 COB LED chips at 50W apiece. If those COBs are CXB3590, then the combo is 56% efficient at converting electrons into photons the plants can use. No HID can touch that now, and as COB LED continues its development curve it will only be a few years until light bulbs are consigned to the scrap heap of obsolescence; beaten on efficiency, beaten on spectrum, beaten on lifespan and soon enough, even price.
It runs 4 COB LED chips at 50W apiece. If those COBs are CXB3590, then the combo is 56% efficient at converting electrons into photons the plants can use. No HID can touch that now, and as COB LED continues its development curve it will only be a few years until light bulbs are consigned to the scrap heap of obsolescence; beaten on efficiency, beaten on spectrum, beaten on lifespan and soon enough, even price.
a mongo frog
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Are those super easy to hook up. It looks that way on the research I've seen. I took apart an 8 bulb T-5 to see about replacing a ballast that controls the 4 center bulbs, seen all the massive amounts of fucking wires everywhere and said fuck this.......
ttystikk
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No, it's not hard at all. You just gotta make damn sure all your COBs are the right polarity when you wire them up.
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since1991
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Its not hard on them t5's. I just replaced a fullham workhorse on one of mine the other day