What is the most potent strain you have tried?

obijohn

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Gotta go with the Vietnamese thai sticks. I was lucky and at 18, my draft lottery number was high enough that I didn't get picked, and that was the last year of the draft. But friends that came back brought Thai stick, buds wrapped in a thread (or hemp fiber) around a stick maybe 6-8 inches long. Definitely not couch lock, a very up high. I'm not sure if they were treated with opium, but I did have a bag of viet weed that was. I smoked it and was blasted, the opium gave it a more dreamy feel. I kept hearing an airplane overhead but it never went away. After 15 minutes I went into the bathroom, my father was scraping paint off the bathroom window in preparation to repaint, and that's what i was hearing.

Second best was Maui Wowie. I grew some under halides in the early 80's, and actually crossed Thai with Wowie, VERY nice. Unfortunately I got no seeds from the cross, and quit growing after that for devcades
 

arsenal69

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i think pure power would be most potent weed i ever grew or smoked heres day 18 flowering pic talk about frosty its nuts let me tell you even dryed and cured its pure white almost i might ad the best high i ever had as well it makes you laugh and just feel real good
looking very nice
 

Brick Top

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The THC content was around 7-10% and was tops back then but I think our current stuff puts it shame.
In that era THC percentages were figured different than they are figured now. A strain that came in around 7% then would now test out between 18% to 20%. A 10% strain from the past would now test out considerably higher.

I have posted it on this site before but no longer have the information to post it again, but an Afghani strain was tested using the old test method and one of the two newer ones, the one that gives a higher THC percentage, and the Afghani strain came in at roughly 8% using the old test method and came in at 21.something% using the new method of testing.

There can be no accurate comparison made using results of the old test method on strains from the past and newer strains tested using either of the currently used methods of testing for THC percentages. In the past THC was a percentage of everything that was found in any type of trichome head, everything was factored in, and that includes non-glandular trichome heads, amino acids, plant matter (the glands inside trichome heads), cannabinods, terpenoids and several others things I cannot remember. Now THC is percentage of cannabinoids and only cannabinoids.

When you remove a large number of things that were in the past factored in the same amount of THC becomes a larger percentage. That is why there was a sudden major increase in THC percentages. It was not because all of a sudden man did something that thousands and thousands of years of evolution failed to do and created vastly more potent strains.

What was low grade commercial of the 60's and 70's tested out between 1.something% and 3.something%. The highest THC percentages I have ever seen from pot of the same era was in the 12% to 13% range. As I mentioned, using both methods of testing a strain that came in at roughly 8% (I believe it was 8.6% but I am not positive) when using the old method of testing came in at 21.something% just think what THC percentage a strain that came in at 13% using the old method of testing would have if tested using the new method of testing. It would have the highest THC percentage of any strain. It would be higher than any man-made strain.
 

Jogro

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Brick Top, you raise a lot of good points.

To amplify, the idea that today's strains are some kind of "super weed" stronger than anything else previously known is just wrong. That's one of the most popular anti-marijuana myths. . .that its a "different drug" because the THC levels are so much higher today than 30 years ago.

Cannabis has been farmed and bred literally for thousands of years. Breeding techniques really haven't changed in that time. . .you take the biggest/strongest/highest yield female or whatever trait you're looking for, cross it with the biggest baddest male, and repeat until you have something you like that breeds true.

Yes, nowadays you can do that breeding a lot faster because instead of being able to get one cycle per year, you can do several cycles under artificial lights, but the principle is unchanged. You'll get there the same way with "ordinary" outdoor breeding too, and if you've it done over many years (not to mention many human generations) you'll probably end up with something far more stable and vigorous than just a few years of crosses under lights.

There is also a genetic maximum potency that is achievable with any plant.. A plant can only put out so much THC/etc before it can't perform its other functions.

The point is, max potency or pretty close to it was probably reached generations ago, by any number of hash farmers all over the planet, using old fashioned land-races. Along those lines, hashish has been around for thousands of years too, and even relatively low quality hash should be as good as (if not substantially better than) even the best ordinary marijuana.

The biggest difference today isn't that the weed itself is stronger than anything known before, its that all sorts of powerful new hybrid genetic lines are readily available today that offer OTHER features not easily obtained 30 years ago. For example, indoor growing is much more prevalent today than 30 years ago, and so a lot of development has gone into making short, fast-growing, powerful strains suited specifically to that type of farming.

In the 1970s, if you wanted to cross a Siberian Ruderalis and an Afghani Hash indica to create something novel, well, you'd have to take some pretty expensive trips across the globe to places that really weren't very friendly to bring back pretty exotic seeds. Today, you can sit at home in your pajamas, and have each one of those genetics shipped to your door for under $50.
 

Jogro

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I do not know how probable it is, but it might have been real Williams Wonder. If so it originally came from the Super Sativa Seed Club, even though Williams Wonder was an indica dominant strain. It was in their 87 - 88 seed catalog. Putting it roughly 15-years ago the time frame is somewhat likely. That would put it roughly 8-years after it was released, so a good number of people might have still have been growing the original.

One interesting thing is that the catalog said that it could not be flowered outdoors unless flowering was induced inside first. Why I could not say. So the the original Williams Wonder, allegedly, was selected solely for indoor growing, or at least so it seems.
I can say for sure that this thing had an indica type "narcotic" high. As mentioned, there were a few seeds in there; that suggests it was grown outdoors, but certainly doesn't prove it.

I find it hard to believe that any given strain won't flower outside. How is 12 hours sunlight physiologically different than 12 hours of HPS light?

There probably are strains that require so long to flower that you're not going to have a long enough season to get them to finish up outside in the USA unless you start them indoors first, but that's not exactly the same thing.

On "strongest strain", in my opinion that's mostly about story-telling and bragging.

Sure, strong stuff has its merits, but realistically, I don't think a difference between say 22% THC and say 18% is all that meaningful. Once you get up there in strength with these "super strains" (be it 1975 Columbian gold or 1995 Williams Wonder or 2010 Trainwreck), what's the difference if it takes two puffs to knock you on your butt or 2.5 puffs?

Again, if you're just after pure potency, you can start with something pretty mild in strength, and use it to create some pretty potent hash, as good as any of the super strains.
 

yesum

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The strongest I have had lately was called Platinum OG. One small hit and instantly(as I exhaled) I felt it between my eyes. Third eye stuff, hehe. All the Kush and OG I have had from the Cali dispensaries is kick ass.

Thanks for the clarification on thc testing levels Brick top. I knew that quality from the 70's was just as good as today. Strongest I had in 70's was unknown Mexican, and 80's was Hawaiian. Both were psychedelic and killer. The Thai sticks that were top shelf were also grown by the mountain people of the area as the Dalat weed was. I think the old landraces were worked out for maximum potency long ago. They were refined and stabilized for our growing ease, but not made more potent.
 

Brick Top

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To much emphasis is put on THC percentages alone. What make something potent is the ratios between THC, other cannabinoids and some terpenoids. A strain that is 15% in THC and has a better ratio between THC, other cannabinoids and some terpenoids will be a more potent strain that one with 20% THC and a bad ratio of THC, other cannabinoids and some terpenoids.

Many believe that higher percentages of THC will always equate to a more powerful high. That is not the case. Various cannabinoids and terpenoids work in conjunction with each other, some working in a positive way to enhance/increase the effects of THC, while others work in a way that decreases the effects. If a strain has a combination that is to much out of what would be an optimal percentage range of each, the result will be less of a high regardless of what the THC percentage is.

When it comes to modern day hybrids, what we got was not really increased potency. Instead what we really got was variety that land-race strains could not offer. A combination of a sativa high and an indica stone blended together resulting in a different sort of buzz than could be found in the past. Different crosses (combinations of different genetics) gave differing results and gave people the opportunity to grow and smoke something that more fit their personal taste, whatever sort of combination of a high and a stone they enjoy the most.
 

cheddar1985

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I dont know the strongest but this scissor hash i have here did a number on me friday night lol smoked half a 1 sheeter and on a whitey lol that fucked the trimmin up that night lol neva again
 

mRIZO

Active Member
i had a hash plant that would give me cold sweats if i hit it too hard. made my place smell AMAZING during flowering too.
 

homebrewer

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In my 11 pack of Kali Mist from Serious Seeds, I got 5 females, 4 of which were very uniform in their aroma and harvest window. The 5th female was this anomaly of a plant which looked, smelled, and smoked nothing like the 'normal' kali ladies. It also finished in about 55 days which was 20 days earlier than the average of the others.

The 5th female was the kind of smoke that would make you forget how to remove your keys from the ignition of your car. It was the kind of smoke that would have you standing in your kitchen for five minutes before you realized you were standing in your kitchen for 5 minutes, alone. It was straight up stupefying.

I let this pheno go because for me, a desirable strain is the total package and while this pheno was intensely potent, it didn't have a pleasant smell or taste. It also yielded very poorly. I did, however, breed with it 8-).

 

fatboyOGOF

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To much emphasis is put on THC percentages alone. What make something potent is the ratios between THC, other cannabinoids and some terpenoids. A strain that is 15% in THC and has a better ratio between THC, other cannabinoids and some terpenoids will be a more potent strain that one with 20% THC and a bad ratio of THC, other cannabinoids and some terpenoids.

Many believe that higher percentages of THC will always equate to a more powerful high. That is not the case. Various cannabinoids and terpenoids work in conjunction with each other, some working in a positive way to enhance/increase the effects of THC, while others work in a way that decreases the effects. If a strain has a combination that is to much out of what would be an optimal percentage range of each, the result will be less of a high regardless of what the THC percentage is.
there's a big thread here or at gypsy's, that discusses a report that stated that THC was highest when all the trichomes were clear. this was a legit guy who did the testing, so my only conclusion is that, since most of us prefer our pot with at least partly cloudy trichs, all the way to having amber ones, that there is much more to the high we enjoy than THC!

i laugh at the people who think that pot only got strong in the last few decades, and that in the thousands of years of cultivation of marijuana, no one had managed this feat before! :lol:
 

Brick Top

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there's a big thread here or at gypsy's, that discusses a report that stated that THC was highest when all the trichomes were clear. this was a legit guy who did the testing, so my only conclusion is that, since most of us prefer our pot with at least partly cloudy trichs, all the way to having amber ones, that there is much more to the high we enjoy than THC!
There was an article in High Times about THC levels being the highest just before trichomes begin to cloud, when they are still clear.

One reason so many people wait for trichomes to turn amber is because the myth that when trichomes turn amber is when maximum potency is reached has taken on an air of truth by being told and retold so many times and passed on to so many new growers over time, and then they tell the next crop of new growers the same thing they were told, and so on and so on and so on.
 

Jack Harer

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Probably the BEST pot I've ever had I got in the northern Chiang Mai region in Thailand. Talk about a dreamy, stupefying high. And it lasted for hours. Next to that, comes Panama Red (from the late 60's/early 70's), My JH pheno, and Nevils Haze. And I can't say that the last three were less potent than the Thai. They all have a stupendous effect.
 
My buddy dropped ten Sensi Star seeds that we got in Canada..cracked all 10...9 sprouted...5 females...one was AMAZING!!!!...we kept it alive for 8 years...it was the best Ive ever had!!!
 

aw0683

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Barney's Farm G-13. Grab a couple joints, head across the street for milkshakes and smokie treats. God that place was awesome....
 

obijohn

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There was an article in High Times about THC levels being the highest just before trichomes begin to cloud, when they are still clear.

One reason so many people wait for trichomes to turn amber is because the myth that when trichomes turn amber is when maximum potency is reached has taken on an air of truth by being told and retold so many times and passed on to so many new growers over time, and then they tell the next crop of new growers the same thing they were told, and so on and so on and so on.

Glad to hear someone else has common sense here. IME, clear trichs give a very spacy, almost rough kind of buzz, cloudy is perfect for me, amber is just past it's peak. The type of buzz..couchlock, clear up buzz or psychedelic buzz is morlty dependant on the strain
 
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