What are your religious beliefs?

thepenofareadywriter

thepenofareadywriter

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whitebb2727 said:
Oh man you didn't.
Nah I'm just kidding. I was in basic training and also served with some Muslims. Most people hear Muslim and get images in their heads of what they have been shown on tv. Muslims are peaceful people.

All through history people have use the Bible and the Qur'an to start wars. Both teach similar philosophies of being kind and doing for others.

I find the idea of a Christian and Muslim being married intriguing.

I had a preacher once tell that Sundays are the most segregated. Blacks going to black churches, whites going to white churches. It was common place for our church and a black church to invite each other to get togethers.

I think Christians and Muslims need to do the same thing.
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so how would you do that the Muslim and Christian together...
 
panhead

panhead

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whitebb2727 said:
I'm not sure.
That is why I am asking a Christian married to a Muslim.
I am sure there is common ground.
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Christians & Muslims have more in common than most Christians & Muslims know , there are alot of the same people/prophets in the bible & quran , including Jesus , Christians are taught Jesus is the son of god & the quran teaches Muslims that Jesus was a prophet .

My wife is alot more religious than i am & that in itself helps alot but what helped the most is her firm understanding of the Quran as well as the old & new testament .

My wife was born in Lebanon where there is a Christian population , her family was a Christian family before converting to Islam before she was born , being college educated this fact intrigued her into reading up on her heratige & learning about Christianity in general .

For myself i was sitting in the county jail awaiting transport to prison & decided to read the bible out of boredom , i finished the new testament while in quarantine in Jackson Prison where reading material was limited to religious material , i decided to read an english quran , i was floored at how much of Islam is based on Christianity , or vice versa depending on who , what when & where , i even read the Satanic bible for Atheists having nothing better to do .

Anyhow my job as a construction worker working in the middle east on US held interests brought me in contact with my future wife & on a work relationship we hit it off , it wasnt long before i knew i wanted her.

As luck & chance would have it she was offered a job in the US under a work visa & she jumped on the chance , i pulled some strings & got her contact info & courted her in an old fashioned way where her friend acted as shaparone , under extreme protest from her family we got married & they hated me until they passed away , even though i helped them immigrate to the US her brothers still hate me for beating her elder brothers ass back in the 80's for speaking to her like a dog & expecting her to be submissive to their will .

Fast foward several decades looking back we get along so well because religion is only a part of our lives , we agreed early on where i wouldnt treat her like a traditional husband would & we would stay out of each others religious affairs , i must say its been pretty simple too .

Its been easier being married to a non US born Muslim for 40 yrs than it was to stay married to my 1st all American wife who divorced me while in prison , good riddance i say , we raised 3 fantastic sons one of which gave his life in Iraq # 1 while the other 2 gave us awesome grand children .

Its been an awesome life even though it wasnt supposed to be .
 
eye exaggerate

eye exaggerate

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superloud said:
I belive in a cult of lizard people
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"they can do anything"
gorillagrower0840 said:
I believe in an invisible magic bearded wizard man in the sky who created everything in a few days on his own time who wants everybody to believe in and worship him and be a good boy or girl because he created an underground lake of fire and torture that he will send you to for all eternity if you don't.



PSYKE!
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It's a sure thing that people think and feel that way. However, it does not paint the overall picture accurately. I think some folks call that circular reasoning, but I don't know because I believe that I was created, so really, what do I know? :)
 
gorillagrower0840

gorillagrower0840

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eye exaggerate said:
"they can do anything"



It's a sure thing that people think and feel that way. However, it does not paint the overall picture accurately. I think some folks call that circular reasoning, but I don't know because I believe that I was created, so really, what do I know? :)
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I know that it doesn't include all the details and whatnot, but I think it pretty much sums it up, shows the overall idea and main bullet points.

I will never surrender logic, reasoning, rationality, and scientific knowledge to any type of blind faith. Especially the looney tune fantasy faiths of today, which is all there is. Maybe one day a better more realistic faith might come along that will convince me to believe in it, but I extremely highly doubt it. I don't think it's possible really. Knowledge is too important to forgo.
 
eye exaggerate

eye exaggerate

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gorillagrower0840 said:
I know that it doesn't include all the details and whatnot, but I think it pretty much sums it up, shows the overall idea and main bullet points.

I will never surrender logic, reasoning, rationality, and scientific knowledge to any type of blind faith. Especially the looney tune fantasy faiths of today, which is all there is. Maybe one day a better more realistic faith might come along that will convince me to believe in it, but I extremely highly doubt it. I don't think it's possible really. Knowledge is too important to forgo.
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It's true that another one will come along. And, as an aside, I have yet to surrender that which you expressed, either. You actually don't have to, though a lot choose to.

“Let us distinguish between the mind, and a mind of Light. Let us distinguish between subjective reasoning, and objective reasoning. Objective reasoning is the reasoning of the Being. Subjective reasoning is the reasoning of the animal ego. Objective reasoning is possessed only by the one who has passed through the Buddhist Annihilation [the complete elimination of the ego: pride, lust, envy, avarice, laziness, jealousy, anger, etc]... The objective reasoning is the mind of light, it is real intelligence, exalted thoughts.” - Samael Aun Weor

*He mentions Buddhism as an example. Also, these quotes come from various sources and 'strains' of 'religious' thought. I'm happy to explore them all, gaining knowledge along the way. In the scientific community bias is nearly controllable by specific methods, but bias will never be taken out of the equation totally. In the quote above, I see 'training' in how to quiet bias as to reduce the noise of thinking leading to a more clear picture of reality.
 
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Nevaeh420

Nevaeh420

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eye exaggerate said:
It's true that another one will come along. And, as an aside, I have yet to surrender that which you expressed, either. You actually don't have to, though a lot choose to.

“Let us distinguish between the mind, and a mind of Light. Let us distinguish between subjective reasoning, and objective reasoning. Objective reasoning is the reasoning of the Being. Subjective reasoning is the reasoning of the animal ego. Objective reasoning is possessed only by the one who has passed through the Buddhist Annihilation [the complete elimination of the ego: pride, lust, envy, avarice, laziness, jealousy, anger, etc]... The objective reasoning is the mind of light, it is real intelligence, exalted thoughts.” - Samael Aun Weor

*He mentions Buddhism as an example. Also, these quotes come from various sources and 'strains' of 'religious' thought. I'm happy to explore them all, gaining knowledge along the way. In the scientific community bias is nearly controllable by specific methods, but bias will never be taken out of the equation totally. In the quote above, I see 'training' in how to quiet bias as to reduce the noise of thinking leading to a more clear picture of reality.
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Wow, its eye exaggerate!

I haven't seen you post in a very long time...

How are you doing, bro?

~PEACE~
 
whitebb2727

whitebb2727

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panhead said:
Christians & Muslims have more in common than most Christians & Muslims know , there are alot of the same people/prophets in the bible & quran , including Jesus , Christians are taught Jesus is the son of god & the quran teaches Muslims that Jesus was a prophet .

My wife is alot more religious than i am & that in itself helps alot but what helped the most is her firm understanding of the Quran as well as the old & new testament .

My wife was born in Lebanon where there is a Christian population , her family was a Christian family before converting to Islam before she was born , being college educated this fact intrigued her into reading up on her heratige & learning about Christianity in general .

For myself i was sitting in the county jail awaiting transport to prison & decided to read the bible out of boredom , i finished the new testament while in quarantine in Jackson Prison where reading material was limited to religious material , i decided to read an english quran , i was floored at how much of Islam is based on Christianity , or vice versa depending on who , what when & where , i even read the Satanic bible for Atheists having nothing better to do .

Anyhow my job as a construction worker working in the middle east on US held interests brought me in contact with my future wife & on a work relationship we hit it off , it wasnt long before i knew i wanted her.

As luck & chance would have it she was offered a job in the US under a work visa & she jumped on the chance , i pulled some strings & got her contact info & courted her in an old fashioned way where her friend acted as shaparone , under extreme protest from her family we got married & they hated me until they passed away , even though i helped them immigrate to the US her brothers still hate me for beating her elder brothers ass back in the 80's for speaking to her like a dog & expecting her to be submissive to their will .

Fast foward several decades looking back we get along so well because religion is only a part of our lives , we agreed early on where i wouldnt treat her like a traditional husband would & we would stay out of each others religious affairs , i must say its been pretty simple too .

Its been easier being married to a non US born Muslim for 40 yrs than it was to stay married to my 1st all American wife who divorced me while in prison , good riddance i say , we raised 3 fantastic sons one of which gave his life in Iraq # 1 while the other 2 gave us awesome grand children .

Its been an awesome life even though it wasnt supposed to be .
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I am sorry for the loss of a son. His sacrifice will not be forgotten.
I knew that Christians and Muslims have quite a bit in common, some people will always find excuses to be close minded.

In my life I have had the unique opportunity to meet people from all kinds of nations and back grounds.
For the most part we all are alike. We just want to have a good life and love our families.

I have thoroughly enjoyed meeting and talking to the different people of the world.
 
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In the 7th and 8th century established christian society considered islam a heretical offshoot of Christianity.

For the most part the muslims didn't run the Byzantine power structure out, those eastern Christians let them into many of the cities with open and welcome arms.

The byzantine army in the field suffered massive defections of soldiers from the area to the Muslim side.
 
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