what are good nutrients/fertilizers?

ganicsarebetter

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right, too much N tastes bad and there is rumors out there that it effects potency in a negative way. who REALLY knows? its tough to know exactly what happens unless you see for yourself....

miracle grow is the bottom of the line. stuff barely feeds bonsai...

have to go with a better line if for nothing else but taste. MG has a terrible taste.

has anyone used or heard of the house and garden line? i hear this line is also made for cannabis....:leaf:

anyone, anyone......
 

hooked.on.ponics

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There's "made for cannabis" and then there's the stuff that was made with cannabis in mind. A lot of the nute companies out there don't own up to what their stuff is being used for.

That's one of the reasons I like AN so much. It's all made 100% for growing weed.

You're totally right about the taste with MG. Nasty stuff.
 

fat sam

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yeah fox farm is some dank shit and works killer to, if you truly want a single bottle try GH flora nova, i have never used it myself but know people who have, it sounds like your friend is using advanced nutrients....which are killer but there is a lot of stuff you can add to make some super tea and that gets away from the easy shot your looking for, go with some fox farm nutes at half strength and you will be good to go
 

frank shamrock

Active Member
Ok, i'm really confused. Miracle grow seems to be a no no. Something oragnic is prefered. Something aimed at growing this specific plant is prefered. What are your favourite brands?
 

waldocat420

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As I’ve mentioned before, all Advanced Nutrients products can be used to grow cannabis in any medium, whether it’s soil, hydro, aeroponics, what have you. Using a hydro fert in soil won't hurt your plants!

When someone says that Peter’s “Jack’s Classic” 20-20-20 or Miracle Grow 20-20-20 are “great ferts,” you have to take that with a huge grain of salt.

They might be “great ferts” for Granny’s houseplants, but they’re too generalized for cannabis. Only Advanced Nutrients provides years of research and knowledge and products that are species specific, that is they’re aimed at cannabis only.

Once you use the generic products, especially in soil, you have no choice but to live with the excessive amount of Nitrogen for instance. So if you experience tip burn, your choices are limited. You can try to flush the fert out of the soil, but the extra water will only make your plants suck up the fert faster.

With these generic products, your buds will be fluffy, not frosty, as they should be. With Advanced Nutrients Sensi Grow A & B, and Sensi Bloom A & B, on the other hand—products that were specifically engineered for growing marijuana—your buds will be huge and the amount of resin will amaze you!

If you additionally use Bud Blood, Big Bud, and Overdrive—in sequence only, during the flowering stage—the size of your harvest will surprise you and the potency of your plants will be staggering!

I’ve spoken to a number of medpot growers who have used the generics suggested in these postings, and they’ve said, yeah, they’ll grow the plants, but the quality—in comparison to cannabis grown with Advanced Nutrients products—is of a poor grade, indeed.

Visit the Advanced Nutrients Medical website and learn all about their whole line of cannabis-specific nutrients and supplements. You’ll be glad you did!

And don't forget to visit my blogsite for further information.
stop spamming, your obviously copying and pasting this crap, you work for AN or what?

Ive used their organic products, good results with the iguana juice very expensive though. This time around i started brewing my own compost teas though, a lot cheaper, and my plants love it.

if your growing in soil, i would go with brewing your own teas. . you can use them at all stages depending on what you use. . i use worm castings in all my teas, add some high P guano, kelp powder, molasses and youve got yourself a great organic flowering tea in my opinion..
 

waldocat420

Well-Known Member
The funny thing is i started withe MG and never had a problem actually it is the easiest way to grow. I eventually moved on to fox farm. Dont get me wrong i like fox farm but it is a pain in the ass to grow with. i have never lost more plants in my life then when i moved to Fox farm. i think i may go back because it is less headache. But when or if you do fox farm right you will get great results its just becomes more difficut
yes, you are absolutely right. when fox farm soil is used correctly the results are excellent. you can have success with MG soil also, but you cant even compare the two. FF ocean forest is made of worm castings, guano, fish and crab meal . . MG has chicken shit. . or something along those lines..
 

petrock

Active Member
Well I couldnt help but throw my 2 cents in.
I am on my 1st mj grow but have been a long
time gardener. (soil only ) I think WES did hit
on something about ones personal experience
and preference.
My experience seems to go with what I believe most all
have said and that is to start slow with the ferts and
work up from there and watch for the plants to tell you
what they need.
I have used the MG product but in at least a 1/4 strength
solution and been ok.
Presently and sense I am still in a vegie state I am using
a fish emulsion 1/2 strength and I must say I am happy and
the plants seem to be happy as well.
Like some of the others have mentioned when the plant is maturing
to flower then a shift to a bloom fert will be needed.
I dont think I have heard of the absolute NPK for MJ yet nor do I
think it exsists. Different manufacterers have different products
with different ratios and different claims.
I believe most can be used with reasonable success if used with
caution. Good luck to all
 

ShackC

Member
Im using technaflora pure vida organics grow and bloom, i have used maxsea and will probably go back to it.
 

StinkBud

Well-Known Member
the guy im learning from uses so many diff kinds that it confuses me and hard to remember..

stuff like voodoo juice, earth grow juice, prop o gator and stuff like that..

is there something thats simple like 1 bottle i use that has all the nutrients for the grow and another for the flowering stage?

or is using all those diff ones better?
Use this for veg:
Botanicare Nutrients:

  1. 126ML Cal-Mag Plus
  2. 180ML Liquid Karma
  3. 540ML Pure Bend Pro Vegetative Formula
  4. 450ml Sweet

Use this for flower:

Botanicare Nutrients:

  1. 126ML Cal-Mag Plus
  2. 180ML Liquid Karma
  3. 540ML Pure Bend Pro flower Formula
  4. 450ml Sweet
1 week before harvest, flush for 24 hours with Clearex and then use 450ml of Sweet only for the rest of the flush.

These formulas will give the best tasting buds you could ever imagine! Organic is the only way to go for taste...
 

fat sam

Well-Known Member
its not the price of the nute its the quality, im back to fox farm myself after giving GH another shot, GH is a great nute for the money and for just a few bucks more you can get some fox farm nutes which are dank, i use them half strength in coco throughout the whole grow, i use half strength every wattering as opposed to full strength every other time as i find it works better when growing in inert mediums such as coco
 

hooked.on.ponics

Well-Known Member
stop spamming, your obviously copying and pasting this crap, you work for AN or what?
Look at the time stamps dude, you're complaining about a post that's like 2 and a half years old and a guy who quit posting about a year and a half before you signed up.

I'd say it's a dead issue, wouldn't you agree?
 

Proph

Well-Known Member
Yes ... if you are in soil, forget all the fancy stuff. Here's some great ferts for you:

For vegging use: Peter's "Jack's Classic" 20-20-20.

For flowering use: Peter's "Jack's Classic Blossom Booster 10-30-20.

Here's where to order: http://www.jacksclassic.com/

Use these at only 1/4 strength throughout your grow and you will have beautiful plants producing great buds.

Vi
Are you still using that Jacks Vi? Seems like alot of people are putting it down but I think Fdd uses jacks too.... If he came in here and said it was good i bet all these people would jump in line lol. Are you still using that or found something else now?
 

fat hippy

Active Member
I just had to comment because I use Jack's Classic "Dynamic Duo" with GREAT results. Any old school grower "in the know" can tell you it's a PROFESSIONAL fertilizer.

It dissoves instantly and it also contains micro nutrients. A small plastic tub of 20-20-20 and 10-30-20 cost $5.00 each. A tub lasts for 2 grows!!!... haha.

It seems to me that the first reaction of some people who use the expensive products is to jump up and down and pull their hair out when Jack's Classic is mentioned. All I can say to them is it's really a fine product.

I grow in Pro Mix BX with MYCORISE, a nice soiless mix that costs about 35 dollars for a 4 cubic foot bale.

I veg 16 clones at a time from Dutch seed mothers for one month. They grow in one gallon pots under 16 6500k 26watt cfls with reflectors 24 hours a day. I use 1/4 teaspoon of fertilizer per gallon of water for each feeding. I spray them good everyday with a solution of 1/8 teaspoon per gallon.

After a month I transplant to 3 gallon pots, trim off the lower leaves and top the plants, then it's off to the flowering room.

My flowering room is a 1200 watt set up. It has three 400 watt lights, two hps and one metal halide I also have four 26 watt UVB 10.0 reptile bulbs running 6 hours a day plus a CO2 boost bucket 3 times a day.

When my 16 plants are moved in they go to 12/12 hour cycle. I still feed them 20-20-20 for the first 2 weeks and they don't get sprayed for the rest of the grow. I then switch to the 10-30-20 bloom at the start of week 3 and I feed them at the rate of 1/4 teaspoon per gallon of water.

I start to supplement the feeding of the plants at the beginning of week 4 thru the end of week 6 with something sweet like corn syrup, honey or plain sugar water. I flush weeks 7 and 8 with just plain water and molasses.

I harvest and trim those sticky and sugary buds, along with a nice bit of finger hash.

I dry for 5 to7 days and cure with citrus peel for one month and store in flip top glass canning jars.

I've been very satisfied with my plant's health, development, and respectable yields using the above method.

My total cost for fertilizer,supplements and grow medium is $50.00 every six months.

I also use the 10-30-20 Jack's Classic Bloom at a rate of 1/8 teaspoon per gallon of water for soaking rockwool cubes to clone and for transplanting seedlings.

I love Jack's Classic!!!

Thank You
 

The Good Doctor

Active Member
Find something simple & easy at first, and use that. If it works for you, then that is the best.

As an easy starting point, go with something like the Flora Nova Series from General Hydroponics. It is a 2 part system that could work just fine for you until the last 6 weeks of blooming. Then You should only have to add Flora Nectar.

Of course, you could get more complicated, add liquid or powder koolbloom, but once again, if it works for you, its right!
 

bamayend

Member
im growing in soil. i used 8n 8p 8k for veg,and i used p54 k24 for flowering. BIGBIG BUD. hehehe checkout if you can find benegro fertilizer in your country.
 

Wavels

Well-Known Member
I just had to comment because I use Jack's Classic "Dynamic Duo" with GREAT results. Any old school grower "in the know" can tell you it's a PROFESSIONAL fertilizer.

It dissoves instantly and it also contains micro nutrients. A small plastic tub of 20-20-20 and 10-30-20 cost $5.00 each. A tub lasts for 2 grows!!!... haha.

It seems to me that the first reaction of some people who use the expensive products is to jump up and down and pull their hair out when Jack's Classic is mentioned. All I can say to them is it's really a fine product.


Yes indeed!
I love Jacks.... it is all I use.
Years ago I tried the expensive "Marijuana specific" type ferts...
IMO Jacks works better and is much less money.:bigjoint:
 

baldyjoe

Member
if u want organic biobizz destroys all bigger yield and better quality but as long as u stick with nutrients specificaly made 4 cannabis u cant go wrong, love, peace n ganga grease peeps.....
 

scribblist

Member
hi, im gonna get some proper stuff for the flowering stage but i was planning on using some tomato feed for veg stage as i have loads. is says the NPK is 4-4-12 with magnesium and micronutrients. also i hear i should half the recommended dosage, is this correct. any help appreciated, plants are nearly 2 weeks into veg and want to give them little boost before its too late. thanks
 
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