Welfare

H.M. Murdoch

H.M. Murdoch

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When I got my first job just right out of college, I met a very nice lady who was a few years older than me. She was an excellent engineer, but her first career choice had been social work. When she was young, her mission in life, she felt, was to help poor people. And she envisioned social work as a way to do that. So she got a degree in social work, and went to work in that field; in the welfare department of a state-run program. Her job was to hand out welfare checks and to try and help people find work so they could get off welfare. She took her job seriously. And her social work career lasted a grand total of just six months.

Yes, just six months.

Because all while she was working hard trying to set up her “clients” with job opportunities, the great majority of them had the attitude of “just gimme my damn check bitch”. Most of them didn’t want work. They just wanted free money from the taxpayers.

So after six months of that, she had had enough. She quit her job, went back to college, and got an engineering degree.

This from a kind, generous, good-hearted lady who genuinely wanted to dedicate her life to helping poor people get off welfare and back to work.

I would be very surprised if the group of people she encountered differed significantly from the norm across the USA.

It's been 10 years since this all happened, and maybe things are different today. But I seriously doubt it.

IMHO, the welfare program in the USA is a terrible failure. While some people genuinely deserve short-term help (and some long-term), welfare programs all too often tempt people to relax and collect their "damn check" every month.

I’m telling a true story that I hope will resonate with reasonable people. I’m not trying to start a flame war. And as such, this will be my only post in this thread. Good evening.
 
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spandy

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Id rather fund a wagon to scrape these types off the side of the road.

For able bodied individuals, there should be a limit to how long you can collect. After that, here comes the wagon because if they don't care enough, why should I care at all?

We get them in our shop here and there. Leeches that expect all this shit for below cost and a coke. I couldn't imagine working somewhere that they congregate regularly.
 
londonfog

londonfog

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H.M. Murdoch said:
When I got my first job just right out of college, I met a very nice lady who was a few years older than me. She was an excellent engineer, but her first career choice had been social work. When she was young, her mission in life, she felt, was to help poor people. And she envisioned social work as a way to do that. So she got a degree in social work, and went to work in that field; in the welfare department of a state-run program. Her job was to hand out welfare checks and to try and help people find work so they could get off welfare. She took her job seriously. And her social work career lasted a grand total of just six months.

Yes, just six months.

Because all while she was working hard trying to set up her “clients” with job opportunities, the great majority of them had the attitude of “just gimme my damn check bitch”. Most of them didn’t want work. They just wanted free money from the taxpayers.

So after six months of that, she had had enough. She quit her job, went back to college, and got an engineering degree.

This from a kind, generous, good-hearted lady who genuinely wanted to dedicate her life to helping poor people get off welfare and back to work.

I would be very surprised if the group of people she encountered differed significantly from the norm across the USA.

It's been 10 years since this all happened, and maybe things are different today. But I seriously doubt it.

IMHO, the welfare program in the USA is a terrible failure. While some people genuinely deserve short-term help (and some long-term), welfare programs all too often tempt people to relax and collect their "damn check" every month.

I’m telling a true story that I hope will resonate with reasonable people. I’m not trying to start a flame war. And as such, this will be my only post in this thread. Good evening.
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Sounds like she was not really into social work. 6 months is nothing to say how your career will be. Most people who are dedicated to what they do would have lasted much longer. Chick was a fraud
 
WORDZofWORDZCRAFT

WORDZofWORDZCRAFT

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ChesusRice said:
Whole shit load of welfare mooches
So what is the solution?
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stop paying them and give the saved money back to the tax payers who are better at spending their money so more jobs will open up and the people who want to work will find a jpb and the people who don't will starve or sell dope and pussy
 
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god1

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ChesusRice said:
Whole shit load of welfare mooches
So what is the solution?
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Recognize the problem for what it is;

Start with mandatory reversible contraception for all eight graders. Allow reversal, only after mandatory monetary and reasoning thresholds are met. For example, 30K in a escrow account, two years in a job paying a minimum of 80K and successful completion of a logic course to start. If the bastards go on the dole put their citizenship on hold; after 8 eights months of no production, swap them for non US citizens willing to work. Of course all new comers have to be willing to go through with state authorized contraception.

Point is, don’t let stupid poor people reproduce.
 
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ChesusRice

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god1 said:
Recognize the problem for what it is;

Start with mandatory reversible contraception for all eight graders. Allow reversal, only after mandatory monetary and reasoning thresholds are met. For example, 30K in a escrow account, two years in a job paying a minimum of 80K and successful completion of a logic course to start. If the bastards go on the dole put their citizenship on hold; after 8 eights months of no production, swap them for non US citizens willing to work. Of course all new comers have to be willing to go through with state authorized contraception.

Point is, don’t let stupid poor people reproduce.
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Zeig Heil!!!!
 
Rob Roy

Rob Roy

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ChesusRice said:
Whole shit load of welfare mooches
So what is the solution?
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A solution to a problem is usually not a good one if employing the "solution" creates another set of problems.

That is the way of forced "charity".

The solution is for charity to be charity, by choice, and not forced redistribution.
 
Rob Roy

Rob Roy

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god1 said:
Recognize the problem for what it is;

Start with mandatory reversible contraception for all eight graders. Allow reversal, only after mandatory monetary and reasoning thresholds are met. For example, 30K in a escrow account, two years in a job paying a minimum of 80K and successful completion of a logic course to start. If the bastards go on the dole put their citizenship on hold; after 8 eights months of no production, swap them for non US citizens willing to work. Of course all new comers have to be willing to go through with state authorized contraception.

Point is, don’t let stupid poor people reproduce.
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You sound rather authoritarian and unwilling to let people be responsible for themselves and their actions or inactions.

You also forgot to say they should face a fine for not brushing their teeth.
 
texasjack

texasjack

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Any program like welfare is going to have leaches. You can't throw the baby out with the bathwater because little kids will be the victims. I'd rather have well fed poor kids than less moochers.

H.M. Murdoch said:
When I got my first job just right out of college, I met a very nice lady who was a few years older than me. She was an excellent engineer, but her first career choice had been social work. When she was young, her mission in life, she felt, was to help poor people. And she envisioned social work as a way to do that. So she got a degree in social work, and went to work in that field; in the welfare department of a state-run program. Her job was to hand out welfare checks and to try and help people find work so they could get off welfare. She took her job seriously. And her social work career lasted a grand total of just six months.

Yes, just six months.

Because all while she was working hard trying to set up her “clients” with job opportunities, the great majority of them had the attitude of “just gimme my damn check bitch”. Most of them didn’t want work. They just wanted free money from the taxpayers.

So after six months of that, she had had enough. She quit her job, went back to college, and got an engineering degree.

This from a kind, generous, good-hearted lady who genuinely wanted to dedicate her life to helping poor people get off welfare and back to work.

I would be very surprised if the group of people she encountered differed significantly from the norm across the USA.

It's been 10 years since this all happened, and maybe things are different today. But I seriously doubt it.

IMHO, the welfare program in the USA is a terrible failure. While some people genuinely deserve short-term help (and some long-term), welfare programs all too often tempt people to relax and collect their "damn check" every month.

I’m telling a true story that I hope will resonate with reasonable people. I’m not trying to start a flame war. And as such, this will be my only post in this thread. Good evening.
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