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Merlot

Merlot

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Hi peeps,

Today I started my first grow. 10x Sensi Skunk. I'm germinating them using the wet paper towel method. They'll be grown in a poly tunnel right next to my veg garden when they are ready.

I've a few questions!

Nutrients! I have access to unlimited horse shit as I have 3 horses. Ideally it needs to be composted I read, but will some newer manure be ok to use?? Couple months old at most. I generally give it to my neighbor who is a farmer hence no decent composted stuff.

I read on another forum about soaking alfalfa in water and using that as a nutrient substitute, any info on this?? I have a couple hundred kg in the feed room...

For growing medium, is shop bought compost with added vermiculite ok to grow with? I'm going to buy a soil PH kit and tester kit for potash etc

What kind of pot size am I looking at needing for a decent harvest per plant? Sensi seed reckons you can get up to 500g per plant from greenhouse/polytunnel grow but I'm taking that with a pinch of salt..

Indoor grow!!

I've 2 spare stables at 4m x 3m each, with a roof height of 8 feet . Would these be OK for an outdoor grow in winter?? Or too cold when lights are off?? I'm in south west France. Temps in deep winter drop to -5/6 at most normally. In autumn temps are mid to low 20's during the day, with temps beging to slump towards mid October in the teens and below. Summer temps are high 20s low 30s (centigrade) in the shade...40+ in direct sunlight.

I have attic space if the stables aren't suitable, but it's a fair size smaller (most of the attic has been converted into 2 extra bedrooms).
 
On The Hunt

On The Hunt

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Merlot said:
Hi peeps,

Today I started my first grow. 10x Sensi Skunk. I'm germinating them using the wet paper towel method. They'll be grown in a poly tunnel right next to my veg garden when they are ready.

I've a few questions!

Nutrients! I have access to unlimited horse shit as I have 3 horses. Ideally it needs to be composted I read, but will some newer manure be ok to use?? Couple months old at most. I generally give it to my neighbor who is a farmer hence no decent composted stuff.

I read on another forum about soaking alfalfa in water and using that as a nutrient substitute, any info on this?? I have a couple hundred kg in the feed room...

For growing medium, is shop bought compost with added vermiculite ok to grow with? I'm going to buy a soil PH kit and tester kit for potash etc

What kind of pot size am I looking at needing for a decent harvest per plant? Sensi seed reckons you can get up to 500g per plant from greenhouse/polytunnel grow but I'm taking that with a pinch of salt..

Indoor grow!!

I've 2 spare stables at 4m x 3m each, with a roof height of 8 feet . Would these be OK for an outdoor grow in winter?? Or too cold when lights are off?? I'm in south west France. Temps in deep winter drop to -5/6 at most normally. In autumn temps are mid to low 20's during the day, with temps beging to slump towards mid October in the teens and below. Summer temps are high 20s low 30s (centigrade) in the shade...40+ in direct sunlight.

I have attic space if the stables aren't suitable, but it's a fair size smaller (most of the attic has been converted into 2 extra bedrooms).
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Hi There Merlot,
Seems like you have a lot space to work with, first of all, which is great in a lot of ways. The quoted weights on breeders' seed specs are, in my limited past experience, very optimistic, or listing the "top end" of the spectrum, not an average. Or, to paraphrase others more informed than I, the numbers often tell you what's possible, when the right specimen is given it's own most ideal environment, from start to finish. It's a bit misleading, but easy to work with. I have not been one looking at achieving the highest yields, so if I get half or more of what's listed, I'm happy. Focused on getting it right first, then other considerations. As to the nutrient and soil questions, there are many, far more thorough resources than I to be found, but my experience and study have given me a few bits of understanding.
I could be entirely wrong about this, but:
~Any animal dung, etc should be composted.
~I have used alfalfa pellets soaked in water along with the addition of fish emulsion to make a 'tea', I used this on my organic vegetable garden with good results. It has to go through a process first, look it up online, I don't remember exactly. But I think raw materials need a bit of biological activity and processing to make them ideal for plant food. Emulate nature, and all that.
~Container size can be pretty important, but I've never grown outdoors. Inside, I've used sizes 1,2,3, and 5 gallon. The bigger the pot, the bigger the plant, in some ways. Of course, time is the other factor. Plants in five gallon buckets got big fast for my space, and I had to struggle to control them without killing them. Also, with a bigger container, I tended to have bigger yield, but needed more time for the plant to grow. I've seen pictures of outdoor plants that I would have mistaken for a tree, but thats a different story. Look around here a bit more, I'm certain you'll get the understanding you need to get started. Good Luck!
 
firsttrydro

firsttrydro

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Hey guys what's up doing my first dwc grow 12 plants in current culture under curent system with canna aqua nute vegging under 2k mh will flower under 4k hps keeping ph at 6.0 ppms at 960 (miss calculation on system volume added nutes for 90 gal when its really 76 ) ppms should be 650 according to canna could not drain and restart due to the need to order more nutes so my q. Is this how will this effect plants ? They were transplanted from fox farm soil with perfect white roots that smelled like fresh cut cucumbers and only one got real droopy but is back up tall now
 

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firsttrydro said:
Hey guys what's up doing my first dwc grow 12 plants in current culture under curent system with canna aqua nute vegging under 2k mh will flower under 4k hps keeping ph at 6.0 ppms at 960 (miss calculation on system volume added nutes for 90 gal when its really 76 ) ppms should be 650 according to canna could not drain and restart due to the need to order more nutes so my q. Is this how will this effect plants ? They were transplanted from fox farm soil with perfect white roots that smelled like fresh cut cucumbers and only one got real droopy but is back up tall now
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Hi there firstry. That hydroponic stuff is Greek to me, there's a ton of more specialized threads that might help you find your answer, but couldn't you just remove some of the solution an add more pH adjusted water to reduce the ppm? I have no experience w anything hydro, but just a thought. Good luck!
 
Merlot

Merlot

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On The Hunt said:
Hi There Merlot,
Seems like you have a lot space to work with, first of all, which is great in a lot of ways. The quoted weights on breeders' seed specs are, in my limited past experience, very optimistic, or listing the "top end" of the spectrum, not an average. Or, to paraphrase others more informed than I, the numbers often tell you what's possible, when the right specimen is given it's own most ideal environment, from start to finish. It's a bit misleading, but easy to work with. I have not been one looking at achieving the highest yields, so if I get half or more of what's listed, I'm happy. Focused on getting it right first, then other considerations. As to the nutrient and soil questions, there are many, far more thorough resources than I to be found, but my experience and study have given me a few bits of understanding.
I could be entirely wrong about this, but:
~Any animal dung, etc should be composted.
~I have used alfalfa pellets soaked in water along with the addition of fish emulsion to make a 'tea', I used this on my organic vegetable garden with good results. It has to go through a process first, look it up online, I don't remember exactly. But I think raw materials need a bit of biological activity and processing to make them ideal for plant food. Emulate nature, and all that.
~Container size can be pretty important, but I've never grown outdoors. Inside, I've used sizes 1,2,3, and 5 gallon. The bigger the pot, the bigger the plant, in some ways. Of course, time is the other factor. Plants in five gallon buckets got big fast for my space, and I had to struggle to control them without killing them. Also, with a bigger container, I tended to have bigger yield, but needed more time for the plant to grow. I've seen pictures of outdoor plants that I would have mistaken for a tree, but thats a different story. Look around here a bit more, I'm certain you'll get the understanding you need to get started. Good Luck!
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Thanks for the reply!

I will certainly be wandering around the forums the next few weeks to get some more info. I've potted 9 seeds, 8 germinated, one didn't. I lost 1 seed when checking them the other night after a bit too much red wine...it his the floor never to be seen again.

Made my own propagator and stuck that next to a window....hope to see some green soon!!
 
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sol404

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hi there, nice to meet you ! imnewbie here, im on timeshare attorney business and studying animation, feel free to ask something :D
 
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bongripper86

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Hoog said:
I'm in U.S.A How long will it stay in veg state? It does not look like it is getting any bigger! I'm giving it 1 gallon of water every 3 days now and Miracle Grow every 6 days. Do I need to trim off anything or just leave it? Thanks for all the Help! Hoog.
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it will be in a veg state until the light cycle changes in the early will begin to show fall and then it willshow sex male or female and begin to flower id stay away from miracle grow also as it has a tendency to burn plants up go with an organic fert for best results or semi organic such as fox farms
 
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lonzo212

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Cylee said:
hello, new on here. i just posted a new thread on the newbie page if you care to see what i have done up until this point.
I am on week 4 of blooming 5 beautiful ladies. 2 confidential cheese, 1 critical jack, 1 pineapple express and 1 chocolope.
all blooming with a 600w hps in a 2x4 tent 5.5ft high.
a couple weeks into bloom ran into high ph problem, the soil was at 7.3 i jsut flushed with 6.2 and got the runoff down to 6.9 on some.. The buds are getting nice and frosty just the leaves are all fading to more yellowish probably due to high ph. feeding mostly organic save for 1 additive in early bloom. first time doing this but i work at a hydro shop haha.
all the feedback from customers really is awesome. throwing some techniques to the test.
plan to run full aptus next line though to have highest quality AND yield. woot woot.


look for my thread i just posted for list of nutrients and whatnot but im so excited and love the forum. ;D
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sir,,,full aptus???? quality n yield?? huh?
 
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ryder7788

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Hoog said:
I'm in U.S.A How long will it stay in veg state? It does not look like it is getting any bigger! I'm giving it 1 gallon of water every 3 days now and Miracle Grow every 6 days. Do I need to trim off anything or just leave it? Thanks for all the Help! Hoog.
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Don't use miracle grow
 
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