Weird wrinkling of leaves
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Bugeye
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I have a homemade 5 gallon vortex brewer and I use basic recipes that I tweak as needed. EWC and molasses based, a little rock dust and kelp meal in them, sometimes a little fish emulsion. You can't really over- apply a tea if it is made right but my soil is pretty healthy and just doesn't need much now.
jensenbeach1
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So the soil analysis will be able to tell me if it will last throughout? Even if theyre evaluating it under tomato guidelines? Do you just typically topfeed amend up until grow time so your soil is mixed well and ready?
jensenbeach1
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I just looked up the vortex brewer thing looks crazy haha. Beats any other traditional method?
Bugeye
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You want to do your amending a few months before you grow, ideally. Depends on what you are putting in, but many organic ingredients commonly used need to compost or cook before they are in the best form for your plant.
Bugeye
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It is pretty good for producing hyper-populations of micro-organisms because you are completely saturating the O2 levels in the water while keeping all of your ingredients suspended and moving. Not sure if you can see in the larger pic of my rig running just water, but it creates a little mini-tornado that sucks air all the way to the bottom and back around.
Bugeye
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The soil test will tell you if your nutrient levels are too high or too low and they usually recommend treatments to raise or lower levels as needed. I've just run enough of them so I know from my numbers that I'm running a bit hot and need to be careful feeding anything and may not need to.
JohnDoeTho
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If your trying to be inconspicuous about your pickiness say your trying to grow hot peppers. Some of those guys get as serious as us!
jensenbeach1
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You made your own? Thats the way to do it. Im gonna have to show my roommate that he loves DIY projects haha. So after using this you see more "head" or foam (bacteria) using this style? Sounds like you have a pretty simple way of growing just add water, hopefully I can be so lucky right now it seems to be the case.
jensenbeach1
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Thats a good tip, do they have the same requirements for nutrients as cannabis though? I think it was a giveaway when I explained it was a bulk purchased soil. She told me I'd need a tomato permit to acquire nutrients from them, looked into it doesnt seem worthwhile. Have to basically report everytime you purchase, why youre purchasing, need an "Applicator"(someone to spray it on), etc. So hoping to just pick her brain a bit and see where my soils are sitting. I got half from one supplier, was a shady character(craigslist) didnt like me asking questions and that was that lol. Hoping both are to par.
jensenbeach1
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Bugeye do you mess with any extra bacterias or anything or just hit them with some mycos on transplant?
Bugeye
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Teas are bacteria based and myco fungi is a fungus. Both work in synergy with the plant to deliver nutrients and water. Established myco fungi will extend your plants root reach by a large factor and give you a wider usable soil ph range. Those tea Brewers can increase bacteria levels from a few million per teaspoon to a few trillion per teaspoon in about 36 hours.
Bugeye
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I mainly run EWC teas and don't get nearly the foam that I did with compost in the mix. So I think foam level may depend on the recipe you use.
jensenbeach1
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I wonder why that is, did you stop using compost for a reason? I hear EWC are the more expensive option but are more well rounded in nutes
Bugeye
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I stopped using animal waste composts due to salt levels that were too high and causing some issues in my soil. So that's the only compost type I won't use for anything now.
I think the value of EWC is more about the bacteria it acts as a host for. But it seems to be nothing but good!
jensenbeach1
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Thanks for all the quick replies Bugeye, you get a chance to checkout my mini journal? https://www.rollitup.org/t/first-outdoor-grow-2017.942918/#post-13596748
jensenbeach1
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Any suggestions on any companys for EWC? Ever looked into doing your own warm farm? Also just curious ive been watering with ro adding slight cal mag but we are going to be using well water at about 450 ppm mostly sulfur i think by the smell lol. Anyways is there such a thing as hardening a plant to a type of water? Figured I could start using tap after letting it sit for 24 its around 200 give them chance to ignore the extra nothing in water
PetFlora
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Done wrong, it might
Bugeye
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I'm not running any worms at the moment, but have. If you purchase them, just go with the freshest you can find locally.
I've never heard of hardening for a change in water. Check your water report on the well to see what the mix is. 450 is high enough that I'd be a little nervous using it on a large crop without understanding it better or testing it on some plants first. Too much mineral content is just as bad as too little, but harder to deal with!
jensenbeach1
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Absolutely i sent water and both soils in for testing hoping to see results soon will post for everyone. My boss has used it for 4 years straight with no issies but he is a much carefree grower than I. Im sure he ignored some stresses and what have you because the plant was "growing" and "its a weed it will grow no matter what". Are his words lol. I hate that reasoning for people to grow, if your plant isnt truly happy you arent doing it right haha. And thanks I wasnt sure just a thought maybe someones seen a study before lol. I know the sulfur level is gonna be high its stinkkyy.