Water, the big elephant in the room..

Banana444 said:

Forget what we as semi concious growers use on our gardens. Its the unknowing majority. I guess hydro growers might dump a lot of waste water down the drain or in thier neighbors yard but look at the amount of lawn fertilizers and chemicals used to control every type of bug and weed. And they are cheap and thousands of pounds of these chemicals are dumped directly onto what runs into our lakes and streams. What do you think causes algae blooms that destroys underwater ecosystems. What can you do?

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i would discard around 50-75 liters of waste res water in a 3 month (12 week) period at an EC of 1.5 to 2.0
at the end of each crop to grow between 45-55 oz

peace

Skunkdoc I use the same method of topping off in between. It saves on nutes, time, labor, and water, and like you said the plants always look nice.

Thundercat said:

Skunkdoc I use the same method of topping off in between. It saves on nutes, time, labor, and water, and like you said the plants always look nice.

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i have been doing it this way almost since i started, for the first few runs i stuck to
what the bottle of nutes at the time recommended (canna) which was changes every 2 weeks
i thought if i didn't change the nutes the plants would suffer
at the time i was growing on a large scale with plants in screens with many individual 50 liter reservoirs
so they all had to be pumped out individually which become too much effort so i decided to leave
2 of the reservoirs they grew as well as the others i changed every 2 weeks
so after this i did not bother with any res changes its a waste of time effort food water and money lol

peace

You've convinced me to stop changing my res every week. I'll extend it to a month and see how it works.

Red1966 said:

You've convinced me to stop changing my res every week. I'll extend it to a month and see how it works.

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i would not recommend this for folk who do not have regular stable domestic tap water
which will always be PH 7.2 and EC 0.2 or whatever you're used to

also if you are using home made nutes or nutes that do not contain ph buffers
and deliver the macros as chelates
most of the well known foods are like this anyway canna vitalink etc

im not saying it will not work with more unstable water supplies or home made foods
just i have never tested this, and if i was growing under these conditions i would change the res myself
until i could see it was ok not to change it

good luck

Yeah I've got decent tap water that I use, and am currently using GH flora nova, but have used other products with this technique over the last 4 years. I'm running a 45 gallon res and typically top off with about 5 gallons of water every 3 days. About every other time I do this I notice the ppm of the res has dropped and I mix nutes in with the top off. Usually that means they get some nice fresh nutes about once a week.

U guys are wack, seriously
Go to another section and start a thread about your wack hydro chemical shitty weed and how to save water.
This here is the organic section, leave.

I swear u guys are trolls, its like if you purposely go to the organics and led section just too talk shit. You have no place in the organics nor led section if you aint doing it.

This thread is done, its been hijacked by wack hydro chemy growers

foreverflyhi said:

U guys are wack, seriously
Go to another section and start a thread about your wack hydro chemical shitty weed and how to save water.
This here is the organic section, leave.

I swear u guys are trolls, its like if you purposely go to the organics and led section just too talk shit. You have no place in the organics nor led section if you aint doing it.

This thread is done, its been hijacked by wack hydro chemy growers

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I think this above post is ridiculous
if you are unable to take on aboard the views of others without showing-off like a baby you really do have a weak personality

its nice to talk to other growers who share similar methods i do not think i have spoken to Thundercat before
its coincidence/irony that we should speak on a organic thread

i am happy to leave you with your bitterness

peace

You need to smoke some weed and calm down forever. This thread has nothing to do with organics whether it was posted in that "sub-forum" or not. It was posted on RIU for RIU members to read and comment on. I didn't see anyone bashing organic growing, or saying that hydro growing is better or anything of the sort. Sooo you need to take a chill pill, and go back to discussing the same thing the thread is about saving water!

Now if you actually just started this thread to bash and bad mouth hydro growing as using to much water and nutes, and being wasteful and bad for the environment then you need to grow up. If that is indeed why you started it, then I think its only fair that some experienced hydro growers add their 2 cents on the subject so that misconceptions and lies don't get spread.

I think that organics are great, and someday I may have an organic garden, however for now I choose to keep the dirt outside rather then in my basement. But that isn't what THIS THREAD is about is it. Its about saving water.

Heres a big one guys, stop growing and watering your pretty green lawn. Sure lawns are nice, but I would NEVER consider using clean drinkable water to water a lawn. what a waste.

Have you installed low flow toilets in your bathrooms yet, you can greatly reduce the amount of water you flush away like that. Dripping faucets were already mentioned as a huge issue. but how about turning the water off while you wash dishes and while your brushing your teeth. Both of these will save gallons a day. If you really want to get serious about saving water I've met people that get wet in the shower and then turn it off while they soap up, and turn it back on to rinse off. Again this saves gallons of water per day.

So rather then acting childish forever, why don't you try to have an honest conversation without the underlying context of how much you hate hydro.

FYI, my plants never have and never will taste like chems, and by making silly statements like that you really show your ignorance of biology and growing.


PS: its been a pleasure skunkdoc, feel free to swing by my thread your always welcome to shoot the shit there.

All i read from you guys is" i grow shitty chem weed". Ok cool got it. Are you guys gone yet?

Here ill help yall
https://www.rollitup.org/f/hydroponics-aeroponics.50/

Click there, ur kind awaits u

lol nope not gone, and you acting childish only makes me want to keep messing with you. You didn't address any of the statements I made trying to redirect the thread to the original topic. You simply deflected them with ignorance, and repeated your childish rederic about "shitty chem weed".

This behavior truely makes me believe that you started this whole thread with the goal of telling everyone how bad hydro growing is, and how much water hydro wastes. Rather then the idea of water conservation. Being that you live in CA, and are running out of water I would think you'd be more concerned with some actual ways to improve the situation, rather then just spending your time bad mouthing hydro so that you can feel like your weed is the best.

In other simpler words so you understand. You would be much better off reading what people have to say then pluging your ears like a 4 year old and saying "lalalala shitty chem weed lalalalala". You might actually learn something Peace TC

Thundercat said:

lol nope not gone, and you acting childish only makes me want to keep messing with you. You didn't address any of the statements I made trying to redirect the thread to the original topic. You simply deflected them with ignorance, and repeated your childish rederic about "shitty chem weed".

This behavior truely makes me believe that you started this whole thread with the goal of telling everyone how bad hydro growing is, and how much water hydro wastes. Rather then the idea of water conservation. Being that you live in CA, and are running out of water I would think you'd be more concerned with some actual ways to improve the situation, rather then just spending your time bad mouthing hydro so that you can feel like your weed is the best.

In other simpler words so you understand. You would be much better off reading what people have to say then pluging your ears like a 4 year old and saying "lalalala shitty chem weed lalalalala". You might actually learn something Peace TC

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First off, once agian, this is the organic section, sure you can state you opinion, but once agian, this is the organic section, i posted this thread here because we organic growers are very like minded.

I admit i fucked up by saying hydro is wack, knowing theres trolls like your self lurking around.

This thread got hijacked plain and simple.

Theres no need to state your hydro bull shit in here, you can however contribute by giving examples of how to save water, but not at The expense of chemicAls being dumped into our water system. So no hydro growing is not saving water but rather destroying it. With plenty of research to back it up.

Keep it up, and prove my point that this thread got hijacked.

"and you acting childish only makes me want to keep messing with you"
You admit youve been trolling and will keep trolling. So bring it on, trolls

9lbs hammer sativa pheno all organics week two water 3x a week, cover mulch, live companion crops to help save and conserve water

Lol you still never read my post I guess. I presented several great ways to save water as thats what the thread is about. I didn't come here to troll or to spread info about hydro. I came here and commented originally about the topic.

You can call me a troll all you want, however you don't know me, my reputation, or my activity on this board for the last 7 years. Am I having fun laughing at your immaturity and inability to absorb basic information. Yes I am, and will probably continue to do so.

I'm not sure why you keep repeating that this is the organics section over and over. Is this not RIU? Isn't this thread supposed to be about water conservation?

Here I'll quote myself so you don't have to go back and read my post about WATER CONSERVATION.
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I think that organics are great, and someday I may have an organic garden, however for now I choose to keep the dirt outside rather then in my basement. But that isn't what THIS THREAD is about is it. Its about saving water.

Heres a big one guys, stop growing and watering your pretty green lawn. Sure lawns are nice, but I would NEVER consider using clean drinkable water to water a lawn. what a waste.

Have you installed low flow toilets in your bathrooms yet, you can greatly reduce the amount of water you flush away like that. Dripping faucets were already mentioned as a huge issue. but how about turning the water off while you wash dishes and while your brushing your teeth. Both of these will save gallons a day. If you really want to get serious about saving water I've met people that get wet in the shower and then turn it off while they soap up, and turn it back on to rinse off. Again this saves gallons of water per day.

So rather then acting childish forever, why don't you try to have an honest conversation without the underlying context of how much you hate hydro."

You said yourself that you shouldn't have attacked hydro, then in the very next sentence begin attacking hydro again. You can't even keep yourself on topic, yet you are complaining about others contributing valuable information to a thread about water conservation. Then you randomly start posting pictures for no apparent reason..... Nice job there OP, your doing a really good job helping people save water and the environment.

Thundercat said:

Lol you still never read my post I guess. I presented several great ways to save water as thats what the thread is about. I didn't come here to troll or to spread info about hydro. I came here and commented originally about the topic.

You can call me a troll all you want, however you don't know me, my reputation, or my activity on this board for the last 7 years. Am I having fun laughing at your immaturity and inability to absorb basic information. Yes I am, and will probably continue to do so.

I'm not sure why you keep repeating that this is the organics section over and over. Is this not RIU? Isn't this thread supposed to be about water conservation?

Here I'll quote myself so you don't have to go back and read my post about WATER CONSERVATION.
"
I think that organics are great, and someday I may have an organic garden, however for now I choose to keep the dirt outside rather then in my basement. But that isn't what THIS THREAD is about is it. Its about saving water.

Heres a big one guys, stop growing and watering your pretty green lawn. Sure lawns are nice, but I would NEVER consider using clean drinkable water to water a lawn. what a waste.

Have you installed low flow toilets in your bathrooms yet, you can greatly reduce the amount of water you flush away like that. Dripping faucets were already mentioned as a huge issue. but how about turning the water off while you wash dishes and while your brushing your teeth. Both of these will save gallons a day. If you really want to get serious about saving water I've met people that get wet in the shower and then turn it off while they soap up, and turn it back on to rinse off. Again this saves gallons of water per day.

So rather then acting childish forever, why don't you try to have an honest conversation without the underlying context of how much you hate hydro."

You said yourself that you shouldn't have attacked hydro, then in the very next sentence begin attacking hydro again. You can't even keep yourself on topic, yet you are complaining about others contributing valuable information to a thread about water conservation. Then you randomly start posting pictures for no apparent reason..... Nice job there OP, your doing a really good job helping people save water and the environment.

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Cool

Water is not a hydro or organic issue, its a global issue. We should all be doing our part to conserve water.

Looks nice and frosty Flyhi! Mulch is obviously something I highly recommend, and I agree, I think it's a great way to conserve water and help your microbe life.

This here is my 4x4x5 under 420w of diy COBs z4 personal stash grow. The leds produce very very little heat which is a huge plus on conserving water! I know leds is a taboo subject, but cant complain on quality, dense nugs and 1gpw!

Xxx og (indica)
Wifi
Quantom kush
Bubba kush
Week 1-2 flower

Have them in 10g bunch together with no airflow in bottom or between the pots ; theory is they wont dry up as fast;; and any run off will get sucked back up the fabric pots. Water 2x a week.
Cant see in pic but i have a variety of culinary herbs for cooking, and barley grass for rabbits (cover crops) new soil batch

DonPetro said:

Water is not a hydro or organic issue, its a global issue. We should all be doing our part to conserve water.

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Def agree,
I started this thread in hopes that we as cannabis growers can resolve the issue of wasting water, or for the gorrilla growers to think hard on what water they will be tapping, and especially dumping contaminated water. Thats why i feel its like the elephant in the room, our plants are soo special to us that we over do it, and not think about the consequences.

DonPetro said:

Water is not a hydro or organic issue, its a global issue. We should all be doing our part to conserve water.

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So true!

Another great option to help is using water crystals in your soil when you mix it. This might not appeal to the organic growers, but I don't really know if they would hurt the organic environment. When I was growing soil I followed the suggestion to do this by a seasoned grower, and I only had to water my 7 gallon grow bags once a week with about 1.5 gallons of water. I got a tiny bit of run off that landed in a catch pan and got re-absorbed. The water crystals will hold extra water until the soil dries some, and then release it back into the root mass.