Virginia's harsh and confusing laws

Ifarted420

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What's up guys! I've been looking all over the Internet for cases of grow ops being busted in Virginia and how harsh the sentence is. Can't find very much info, and when I do who knows how accurate it is. Basically I wanted to keep growing but now that I'm getting a little older and actually over 18, I'm starting to think about my future and think twice about the whole thing. Virginia law says manufacturing cannabis for a reason other than personal use is punishable by up to 30 but not less than 5 years and a $10,000 fine. But what if its for "personal use" like it says in the law? Another website said you must be convicted with proof of intent to distribute. So if I keep no more than a couple of l's in my home, no scales, no baggies and basically tell them I grow weed strictly to help depression and nausea, that I love the art of growing and that's part of the medicinal value for me blah blah, father just passed away and am very depressed. Sob stories don't do well in court but. 18 years old, first offense, not selling just personal use. What do you think would be the case for me? Also if I were to go to prison for 5 years, how long would you assume that to be? Because I always see friends not serving near the amount of time they were supposed to. I have no problem paying bail. Thanks guys sorry for the rambling sentences it's very late, or early.
 

alwayslearning777

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dno how the laws are there, i got a few.buddys and it seems like 2/3rds is abouy what it is here of actual time vs sentance depends on the jail population tho

i would recomend getting involved with your comunity, donate your time helping out or.comunity service just because, it goes a long way when they think about putting you up, they got no problem putting away a kid whos growing for money, but someone who volenteers helping the comunity, doing what ever big brothers big sisters, habbitat for humanity , and you have other respected members of the comunity who will voutch for your contributions to society they think twice about tossin you in jail especialy if it doeant look like u were selling (no scales no bags so on )

just my opinion tho
 

bluntmassa1

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thats the best route
Damn straight I'm looking at a minimum of a 1-5 if I get caught can be much worse but last guy I heard about had a little bigger of a grow than me and that's what he got. I am going to be working on getting a medical card as well can't legally grow it but I might just be able to get a jury nullification with a card. Pretty much my plan if I get caught anyways as I should be able to get a card as is and know a few medical patients I give great deals to so they best show up in my defense.

But overall I am cautious as fuck I got a family.
 

boilingoil

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Virginia sucks. I got a ticket for having halo's on my headlights just passing through the state on the way to see my daughter in NC. I guess they are illegal their. At least they warn you of radar detectors being illegal with signage as you're entering the state but nothing for halo's or ground effects lighting.
 

Cabinet Cropper

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I would say move or hang it up. No offense, but you sound pretty well resigned to getting caught, which makes no sense to me. I am not trying to be a dick by any means, but you sound like you have pretty well accepted that you are going to get busted. If that is the casez why not just go somewhere where it will not mattet if you do? Washington DC comes to mind as you can still be near your family, but not go to jail for a little grow. Just my $.02. Stay safe!
 

ky man

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What's up guys! I've been looking all over the Internet for cases of grow ops being busted in Virginia and how harsh the sentence is. Can't find very much info, and when I do who knows how accurate it is. Basically I wanted to keep growing but now that I'm getting a little older and actually over 18, I'm starting to think about my future and think twice about the whole thing. Virginia law says manufacturing cannabis for a reason other than personal use is punishable by up to 30 but not less than 5 years and a $10,000 fine. But what if its for "personal use" like it says in the law? Another website said you must be convicted with proof of intent to distribute. So if I keep no more than a couple of l's in my home, no scales, no baggies and basically tell them I grow weed strictly to help depression and nausea, that I love the art of growing and that's part of the medicinal value for me blah blah, father just passed away and am very depressed. Sob stories don't do well in court but. 18 years old, first offense, not selling just personal use. What do you think would be the case for me? Also if I were to go to prison for 5 years, how long would you assume that to be? Because I always see friends not serving near the amount of time they were supposed to. I have no problem paying bail. Thanks guys sorry for the rambling sentences it's very late, or early.
Talk to a VERRY GOOD LAWER then you will know the truth about the law in that state..ky
 

A.K.A. Overgrowem

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I would say move or hang it up. No offense, but you sound pretty well resigned to getting caught, which makes no sense to me. I am not trying to be a dick by any means, but you sound like you have pretty well accepted that you are going to get busted. If that is the casez why not just go somewhere where it will not mattet if you do? Washington DC comes to mind as you can still be near your family, but not go to jail for a little grow. Just my $.02. Stay safe!
Just read the Legislative prop. for W. Virg.. 6 plants, per household. Must Buy a $500 tax stamp. Didn't say how long it was good for. Anyone know??? If good for a long time, then about as good a deal as you can expect for a leg. bill. If for 1 or 2 years then not so good.
 

cannakis

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and it never hurts to help others on a regular basis
Haha Amen!
I would say move or hang it up. No offense, but you sound pretty well resigned to getting caught, which makes no sense to me. I am not trying to be a dick by any means, but you sound like you have pretty well accepted that you are going to get busted. If that is the casez why not just go somewhere where it will not mattet if you do? Washington DC comes to mind as you can still be near your family, but not go to jail for a little grow. Just my $.02. Stay safe!
well stated.! You are speaking it into existence OP. Move to DC.
VA law is all about who you know and how much money you have.. My friend just got picked up for an outdoor grow last month. He's facing 2-3 years
How'd he get busted?
Just read the Legislative prop. for W. Virg.. 6 plants, per household. Must Buy a $500 tax stamp. Didn't say how long it was good for. Anyone know??? If good for a long time, then about as good a deal as you can expect for a leg. bill. If for 1 or 2 years then not so good.
thats when I'd make MONSTER TREES! Plant Count is completely
arbitrary.! All these Codes are arbitrary
 

justugh

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What's up guys! I've been looking all over the Internet for cases of grow ops being busted in Virginia and how harsh the sentence is. Can't find very much info, and when I do who knows how accurate it is. Basically I wanted to keep growing but now that I'm getting a little older and actually over 18, I'm starting to think about my future and think twice about the whole thing. Virginia law says manufacturing cannabis for a reason other than personal use is punishable by up to 30 but not less than 5 years and a $10,000 fine. But what if its for "personal use" like it says in the law? Another website said you must be convicted with proof of intent to distribute. So if I keep no more than a couple of l's in my home, no scales, no baggies and basically tell them I grow weed strictly to help depression and nausea, that I love the art of growing and that's part of the medicinal value for me blah blah, father just passed away and am very depressed. Sob stories don't do well in court but. 18 years old, first offense, not selling just personal use. What do you think would be the case for me? Also if I were to go to prison for 5 years, how long would you assume that to be? Because I always see friends not serving near the amount of time they were supposed to. I have no problem paying bail. Thanks guys sorry for the rambling sentences it's very late, or early.

i have dealt with VA and a few friends ........on weed they are cock suckers they think of it like coke/meth

your a grow op .........based on the size of the op here is what is going to happen
1 u are going to take 15k and get a lawyer on retainer and leave 10k for him to use to post bail for your release
this is just to make life easier later ......once the lawyer is on retainer u still must talk in hypothetical until u get busted ......so any ? u ask him say in theroy what
2 tune the grow to what he said .......medical use and supplying for it can be a excuse and defense but the number of plants must be small

if u are running a money maker
1 get the lawyer as above
2 insulation of u and the money and the weed is a must u need to find cut off men willing to stand in court and say yah it was me (but this requires a large amount of cash to take care of him and family while doing time)
3 u are going to need away to clean the money and show a form of income without it being drug money (anything paid with drug money can be seized and taken ....up to u to prove it was not drug money) .......i like silver trade .(double check the spending limit before triggering a federal review of transaction ) then u buy silver coins and bars from several different places for half that limit stock it up and then resale it back once the price has gone up to cover the transaction fees so u get money back (u can wait longer for higher return) ...........but silver coins and bars are not smelly like cash (drug dogs can hit on high amounts of cash as it has traces of drugs on them ) ......worst case u bury it some place off your land hidden encase get busted they can not seize it

bitch moves
1 the cops are going to try to flip u ........they always are looking for the higher up ......just know if u rat it gets around .......snitches get stitches if not ditch
A) u can take the deal and dick them around ......gets u from 12 to 18 months more before the case is called up .....can not use speedy trail to dismiss case as u agreed CI stuff

working the system
1 u take the hit u go in and work the system
2 good time .......like 10 days a month u can earn once u are classified and placed into gen pop
3 the ROTC program .......it is like boot camp in jail doing the program for 9 10 months gets u out .......but u need good time and no combative on arrest/charge/time in jail
4 other programs (church school doctors jobs) what ever some of them have good time added on with them some do not .......but they all look good to release board
5 keep head down do not start shit but do not take shit ........learn who is who before u do anything (always a rotation in classification u will meet ppl that have been in gen pop ask them what is what before u get to your block........they will tell u what is going on for a trade of some food item )
6 your going to get asked where are your papers with in a few hours of getting to your block .......give them up otherwise someone will go tho your shit looking for them .......they want to see the charge u are in there for .........making sure not a kiddie fucker or anything does not belong on the block ........after that put them away u done the dance until u move to a new block
7 work on your chess and spades game .......they do not play when it comes to that

counter measures
1 set the grow up to burn ..........rig up a sprinkler system with denature alc ........this one only kicks on when u want it too.......set up blocks between u and the cops given u 20 secs to hit the button release the fuel and spark it .......burn everything down so only charge with that getting less time then growing
2 same thing using a propain system .........u rig it up to the walls shooting jets .....if u go this far u can flame proof the walls ceiling and floor
3 set the grow op off site away from where u are ........only going to it when u know it needs work ......rig up a remote viewing system and alarm( they sell ones that will call numbers u program into not a biz or cops) .....this gives u a jump to get out of the area before the warrants go over the system
4 anything u order for soil augments and feeds need to be placed in 1 trash bag with only that stuff u take it and dump it in a big dumpster day before it gets cleaned out (fast food place 20 miles away from grow site)
5 trim leaves and bho/iso leaves.........all this gets dried out crushed up and mixed back into the soil u have cooking (no soil then it gets mixed all crushed up into compost pile in someone else yard at 2 am)
6 stalks stems branches .........burn them (leaves smell stalks do not)
7 your house hold trash is just that it gets nothing to do with weed in at all ......your grow op trash is just that no house hold trash at all no papers no addresses nothing but what was stated before ......mixing the 2 is a death blow as it links u in the court system
8 your trash once it is placed outside on curb to be collected it is free ....they do not need a warrant to go take it and look tho it ......rem this be anal about this if any ? get a tarp break it open and double check
9 when can always pay with cash .......when no choice a 1 time use prepaied card (use the money on it then throw away get a new one never recharge it ) ........to get these u use mom and pops stores with shitty video camrea system (tapes recycle every 24h 72h or 30 days) buy the card wait 30 days use the card no way to trace back to u(federal limit ......was 4000 so no more then 3999 on any one card at any given time.....i heard them talking of lowering it to 1500 check )

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prime raiding times are from about 1 am to 7 am ........they are shooting for ppl to be in deep rem sleep so it takes them few secs to wake up and react giving them the tactical advanage

benn raided before in teen years and i messed around with a ex swat officer ..well she was still on the force when i met her (quit becuase the other officers were dirty and worried she would get left out to die as she was not dirty)......she was a VA swat
 
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