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Vertical in small tent possible?

Discussion in 'Vertical Growing' started by Sir72, Oct 6, 2017.

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    Sir72

    Sir72 Well-Known Member

    i was wondering if a vertical grow was possible in a 32"x32"x63" grow tent? Any opinions?
     
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    verticalgrow

    verticalgrow Well-Known Member

    bare bulb HPS = 36" minimum + 1" plant grow space
     
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    Sir72

    Sir72 Well-Known Member

    So that's a no, kinda figured it was cutting it close. Gonna rock topping and lst like planned, thanks.
     
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    predd

    predd Well-Known Member

    I kill it with a barebulb 315cmh vert in a 36x20x60 tent.....
     
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    Sir72

    Sir72 Well-Known Member

    So why couldn't I in a 32x32x63? What kind of yield do you get? I would be using a 600 hps.
     
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    predd

    predd Well-Known Member

    well I'm sure the 315 put's out less heat and is supposed to be close to a equivelent of a 600 hps...probably your best option...I pull about 10-12 zips outta that tent. You can do a 400 just fine in there, just cool the bulb with a fan and get good air extraction.
     

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    Stealthstyle

    Stealthstyle Well-Known Member

    It will be easy to fry plants unless tied back to a trellis or sog on the walls. for a 600watter i recomened 60cm to the bulb.
     
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    verticalgrow

    verticalgrow Well-Known Member

    Maybe a cooltube might work but its gunna restrict plant airflow to much imho
     
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    predd

    predd Well-Known Member

    Yeah I don't think he could pull a 600 off in that size tent, even if they don't hermie I would imagine quite a bit of bleaching....I say spend the extra money and get the 315 cmh...
     
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    MichiganMedGrower

    MichiganMedGrower Well-Known Member

    That size tent is perfect for an overhead 315 LEC Grow.

    Fill the canopy and you could grow a pound with the right genetics and some practice.
     
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    stxfarmer

    stxfarmer Member

    Total newbie here but if I had a 4'x4'x7' with 100% LED panels would that work. Thinking 1 or 2 plants in a vert grow
     
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    MichiganMedGrower

    MichiganMedGrower Well-Known Member

    Flat panels could be more effectively mountain above and on the walls as side lighting. You could bulk up plants with huge buds like that.
     
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    stxfarmer

    stxfarmer Member

    Tks, that is where I am heading for my first grow May be too ambitious but willing to invest in the panels and give it the college try
     
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    coreywebster

    coreywebster Well-Known Member

    If you want to go vert I would imagine HID would be a better option in a tent. Depends on your reasoning for wanting to use LED and what type of panels you were planning. 4x4 tent wants some good wattage regardless of light type.
     
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    stxfarmer

    stxfarmer Member

    Wouldn't any type of vertical grow have to have multiple sources of LED or HID? Doesn't the light footprint have to follow the plant as it grows upward? Thus you have to create a vertical light source as the plant grows
     
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    coreywebster

    coreywebster Well-Known Member

    Well a vertically hung HID such as a 315cmh or 600hps or any bulb radiates light in a 360 degree pattern where as LEDs don't. So there is more benefit to be had from a bare bulb, since you have 4 tent walls and can grow up all sides. To do the same with LED you would need 4 panels to have the same benefit as a bare HID bulb set up. With a vert in a small space the idea would be to maximise square footage of canopy. You can have shelves of plants 2 or 3 tears high or grow plants tall and against the walls. End result is a much bigger canopy of buds than horizontal set up.

    There are many types of vertical set ups, this one is aimed at small tent set ups. Bigger ones and your hanging multiple lights with rings of plants to gain lower bud size. There's folk who do use LEDs for vert, but were talking large walls of weed, not little tents.

    Again, it depends on why you want to use LEDs? There has to be some logic to the choice (that's a genuine question)
     
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    MichiganMedGrower

    MichiganMedGrower Well-Known Member

    There isn't really always more square feet in a vertical. The depth of the canopy of buds in a flat Grow needs to be considered.

    If the trellis is close to the wall say a few inches. The buds will be 1 layer attached to it. And you will likely have 3 sides in a tent. I have seen one Grow with a 4th movable trellis that rolls out of the way to work. But most cages are 3 sides.

    My garden has way less surface area but the buds are 2' thick in the canopy. More space than most vert trellis systems are considering a flat Grow has. Consider the levels or layers of buds 2' deep compared to the flat shallow trellis of the vert walls.
     
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    3GT

    3GT Well-Known Member

    Admittedly I'm very much a noob but I can see potential running a combo of Hid/Led in a tent. HID up top and strip lighting all around and you could have a 4'+ deep canopy with weight all the way down. That's more 3D than a vertical trellis
     
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    MichiganMedGrower

    MichiganMedGrower Well-Known Member


    Use some uv+ t-5 fluorescents instead of led strips and you will have uva and uvb to increase terpenes and thc content.

    And with the extra blue light in the t-5's added to the hps above you could have the perfect spectrum for plant health and vigor.
     
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    3GT

    3GT Well-Known Member

    I don't know if t5's would work quite as well compared to led strips? Can always change the HID out for a 10k mh towards the end for the UV?

    My idea of growing vert in a small tent would be 1 plant vegged for 8-12 weeks, topped 2x, 315w cmh above, 400w of led strips (bridgelux or Samsung) on the sides and 200w of 2200k redmeat luxeon cobs up top? 3100k cmh could do with more reds and IMO that combo would work very well

    Edit; here is my actually fully sick plant so excuse that, 315w cmh + 250w bridgelux EB strips
     

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