Vero 18s, 29s and a cabinet full of stanky goodness

BigYellowCob

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Day 39 pics. The flowers continue to grow and pack on weight. The SD has started to fade already even though it's got a month to go - it's a true hater plant, no matter what I do it hates it. I'm just going to let it go and see what happens. The Satori and Fire OG are doing great though. I'll be travelling for work for a few days this week, so hopefully the wife keeps everything alive while I'm gone.
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Below is a pic of some cuttings I'm rooting for my colloidal silver pollen chucking project coming up after this grow. I think I've finally got my cloning worked out - keeping the ph where it needs to be made all the difference. These are between 1 & 2 weeks old, and some have rooted. The ones near the top of the pic were in rough shape but rebounded back after I got the ph issue sorted.

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BigYellowCob

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I like your cab. Simple, clean, and green.

Getting an independent clone/veg setup is on my to-do list. For now my cab is a veg/flower cab. Soon I'm going to be making one of these to see how well they do. It's an automatic drip system for clones or seedlings.

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I picket up a set of Blumat drippers to use for my flowering plants, but have been to lazy to get it set up. It would be nice to have automated system to water smaller plants too. It's probably is easier for hydro plants - in soil I think the drippers might keep stuff too wet. Could get damping off with seedlings.
 

BigYellowCob

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Damn man looking frosty, they look super good! Looks like they're loving the veros!
Thanks, yours are coming along nicely too, aside from the ph issue, which I'm sure they will recover from and finish strong. The Veros are definitely doing well.
I think my Fire OG might be ready to chop in 2 weeks or so - the Satori prolly needs 3-4 weeks. Both are sticky and stinky. I've stopped caring about the SD - it's likely a write-off. I'll have to regrow SD some other time, and maybe grow it in coco or some other hydro so I have more control over the nutes, seeing how fussy that plant is.
 

nvhak49

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Yeah I made some tea a few weeks ago that was really low pH and I think that's what got them and my bigger grow too and one of my plants it to late into flower to recover but I still might get a good yield off it. I bought a new pH pen last week so I won't be having anymore pH issues, "knock on wood."
 

BigYellowCob

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I checked the Fire OG trich's under a 40x scope this afternoon, and was surprised to see that it was already about 80% cloudy, 10% clear and 10% amber. I haven't even hit the 8 week mark, and I think this strain is supposed to go 9-10 weeks. I'm guessing that the running the lights at 12/12 and using the far red at lights out may have helped speed up the maturation process.. Anyways, I just snipped off a smaller top bud that I'm going to let dry/cure over the holiday weekend, and will sample it Monday night. If I like where it's at, I'll probably chop the OG on Tues, which will be exactly 8 weeks. The buds are super frosty, as you can see by the pic below, and smell amazing.
I've also started making some colloidal silver for my seed project, and have 4 clones that will be ready to have a sex change starting next week to make some fem'd seeds for me. I'll document this and post it later on after I'm further along in the project.
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BigYellowCob

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I sampled the Fire OG bud this week, and the plant is definitely not ready yet. The high was really racy and heady (like a land-race sativa), and I'm looking for a more balanced slightly stony buzz, so I'm going to let it run the full 10 weeks. I was hoping for some cooler weather in Sept so my flowers could ripen in a cooler grow cabinet, but as usual mother nature gave me the finger and cranked up the thermostat with 100+ temps forecast for this whole week. Hope it doesn't affect the potency too much.
Also, I chopped the Sour Diesel after cutting open a sample bud and smelled like lawn clippings - no funk to it at all, and the plant looked like crap. I was basically sick of nursing an unhealthy plant that was producing shitty bud, so now the FOG and Satori have some extra room in the cabinet to finish up.
 

BigYellowCob

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Day 59: A few pics I took yesterday of the 2 remaining ladies - getting some purple on the Satori, which is kinda cool. The FOG will probably get cut in 8-9 days, but the Satori might need a little longer, as she seemed to take a bit longer to start flowering (maybe because of the high temps), and will probably take longer to finish too. At least we have some cooler weather on the way next week, I'm happy about that.
EDIT: I got a little worried after reviewing the Satori bud pic below - on the right side it looks like a nanner in the pic. I just checked the buds, and there are no nanners found. The Satori pushes out some really fat pistols that are bent back on themselves, and the way the flash caught one of them made it look like a nanner.

DOUBLE EDIT, lol: After looking at the pic again, I checked the correct bud this time, and it actually was a small nanner on that 1 bud, but it didn't seem to have any pollen in it, and I can't find anymore like it on the plant. Maybe the 90+ degree cabinet temps this week stressed the plant into throwing a sterile nanner. It's far enough into the grow where i'm not worried about it - I'm going to keep growing it for at least another week, but I'll keep a close eye on her.

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BigYellowCob

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Other than being super stretchy and floppy, the Fire OG has been a really easy plant to grow. It's not fussy at all, just drop her in some soil and she explodes. The buds are not that large, but are fairly dense and there's a lot of them. The stems are really thin though, so it needs support. Today I tied up a few of the buds that were flopping towards the ground. There's tons of resin everywhere on the plant, every time I touch it I stink of lemon Pine Sol.
The Satori is easy to grow too. It's a sativa dom plant, but grows more like an indica, with thick stems and fat colas. It's only bad trait is the buds can be pretty leafy, but the leaves have quite a bit of resin on them and I plan to freeze all the trimmings and make hash with it.
 

BigYellowCob

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Well, my grow came to a finish a few days early. Tonight I was inspecting the buds before lights out, and found some mold/bud rot on one of the Satori colas. Fortunately it was isolated to the 1 cola in the back corner of the cabinet that doesn't get much air flow, the rest of the buds were fine, but I decided to chop a few days early at day 65. I lost about 1/2 of the one cola with the mold - anything that looked anything like it might have mold was tossed out. There was no sign of mold or rot on the smaller Fire OG buds, but since she was pretty much finished, she got the axe tonight as well. I gave all the buds a quick trim, and they are now hanging the garage with a fan on low blowing at them with conditions cool and 50% RH. I'm guessing after my losses I'll end up with around 3oz from both plants, which is plenty for me and the old lady. I'll post the final weight once they dry. It was far from a perfect grow in a hot and less than ideal grow environment, but I achieved what I wanted which was a few zips of bud.

I'll need to work on ventilation in the cabinet for future grows - I think my main problem is the fans shut off at night, and the RH can get too high in the cabinet. I need to run an always on power source to the cabinet so I can run the small exhaust fan 24/7.
I'm also changing my plans for my seed run, which I'll be doing next. I was going to try to reverse sex on 5 different strains, and pollinate 5 other clones to get seeds from each strain. Unfortunately, three of the clones that I thought had rooted are not rooted. On top of that, it looks like I will be travelling again for work over the next month, and it's too much bullshit to manage 5 different strains. Instead I'm going to dumb it down and reverse only a Satori female and have it pollinate the 5 strains in my flower cabinet by letting the pollen fly so mother nature can do her work. So in the end I'll get some more Satori seeds (my fav strain) along with Satori crossed with OG Kush, Blue Dream, GG4, and Sour D. Sorry @nvhak49 , I won't be able to share GG4 or Blue Dream beans with you, unless you want to try them crossed with Satori.
Here's a few pics I took before the chop tonight.

Fukkin mold in the one bud:
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Satori just before the chop
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Trimmed bud hung up to dry - Satori is in the basket, the Fire OG is hanging from the sides
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nvhak49

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Damn man that's a bummer about the bud rot. I was just checking the rh on my main grow and it's pretty high so I turned up my exhaust fan up that runs 24/7. Oh no worries about the gg4 seeds you seem busy and I am too. I told two of my buddies to keep there ears and eyes open about a cutting of it. Maybe once your not as busy you can pollenate and grow some seeds of it but don't worry man. Looks like a good grow tho other than the mold. I've gotta check my main grow now just incase.
 

BigYellowCob

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If possible I'll try to get a cut off the GG and BD before I start the seed run, so I can make some seeds with them later. I would like to have strain specific seeds from those two to hold onto if I can work it out somehow.
I was surprised by the mold, since Northern CA is pretty dry this time of year (wildfires all around me). RH in the air is usually 30 to 40% or 20% during hot weather. I'm sure it was lack of ventilation at night that caused the mold. Oh well, it was a learning experience.
My garage smells freaking awesome this morning, with the bud hanging out to dry. I told the wife last night that it smells so good in the garage that I was thinking about sleeping out there last night. She wasn't very amused by my joke.
 

nvhak49

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The rh goes up pretty high with light off it does in both my grows but it behave exhaust fans going on even at night too to help prevent with mold. Just set up your exhaust fan so it stays on at night too and you should be ok.
 

BigYellowCob

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I picked up one of these LED light strips at Home Depot last weekend for my winter indoor lettuce and spinach garden. We grew lettuce outdoors last winter, but had to deal with slugs, aphids, birds, and every other damn creature that wanted to eat the lettuce for us, so this year I'm growing some indoors in coco. We'll see how it does - so far the seedlings look happy. I think it will be enough light for lettuce. I'm trying to clone a Thai basil cutting from my outdoor garden, if that roots I'll add it to the indoor garden and supplement it with a screw in LED bulb.
The light strip specs are 3700 lumen using 38 watts at 4100k, and it's 4 feet long. Not exactly ground breaking efficiency, but it's very light weight and pre-built and seems to run pretty cool. I think it would make a good light to hang over some clones or to veg some mother plants. It's priced at $50, which is probably overpriced for what you get, but it's cheaper than most of the LED strip lights that the big box stores offer. I was going to build a light, but laziness won out over efficiency this round.

http://www.homedepot.com/p/Feit-Electric-4-ft-LED-Utility-Shop-Light-73990/205110548

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Hi BigYellowCob, nice buds. What is your temp increase in your flower room when you turn on the lights?
 

BigYellowCob

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Hi BigYellowCob, nice buds. What is your temp increase in your flower room when you turn on the lights?
I haven't done an exact measurement, but the temp increase is pretty minimal. The way I have the cooling set up, the exhaust fan on the top of the cabinet blows outwards, pulling air across the top of the heatsink, so most of the heat from the heatsink gets pulled straight out of the cabinet. I grow in a garage with no AC or heat, so I'm really more at the mercy of mother nature as far as temps go. I did notice one thing during my last grow - having plants in the cabinet drastically reduces the grow space temps. The plants absorb some of the light energy to use for photosynthesis, and also transpire moisture which acts like a swamp cooler effect, so my grow space might be 10-15 degrees cooler than the garage temps even with the lights on full at 135 watts. Without plants in the cabinet, the temps will rise above garage temps with the lights on.
 

BigYellowCob

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After about 48 hours drying in the garage with RH ranging between 25 and 50%, the bud is pretty much dry. It's in the jar, and the hygrometers are at around 61% for both strains. The final weights are about 61 grams for the Fire OG, and 57 grams of Satori after mold losses. That's about 118 grams total, and I used on average about 125 watts to flower the plants (I ran the lights at 100 watts the 1st week and last 2 weeks of the grow, so the average is 125 overall). So even with about ~10g loss due to mold, and 1 lost plant due to the fact the plant was being a bitch and didn't want to grow properly, I still almost got 1g/watt. If the Sour Diesel wasn't a bitch had produced around 2oz, same as the FOG and Satori, I'd have been at around 1.4 g/watt.

Really though, I don't give a shit about yield, I just want a fair amount of quality bud to smoke, and to not blow up my electric bill in the process. The Vero 29's @ 45% efficiency did the job for me.
Next up is the seed run, but I'm waiting on some clones to veg a little more. Once that project is up and running I'll post updates here again.
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