vegetable glycerin tincture for tank system e-cig?
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WarMachine
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Great threat! Can't wait for more updates so I can try this on my Vaporall pen(G Pen Knock Off I believe)! I really like using it but I noticed it just burns (no pun, OK some pun) right threw the wax/hash/oil. I also have a Medstick which is more discreet. Keep up the good work!
Grow Goddess
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Thanks for pointing out the ego-t. I just purchased some of their accessories. Can't beat the prices I found. It is really cool that they have new batteries with variable voltage. Can't wait to get my new variable voltage battery. I am going to crank up the volts. I think it is the extra little kick I need for my vape set up.
That lead me to finding some other pen type vaporizers. They are not stealthy, but they look like the King Kong in pen vapes! I think I will be trying one of those bad boys out in the near future. http://highdesertvapes.com/products/DID-Clone-Rebuildable-Atomizer.html The video shown on this page link, I got to have one of those!! Poking around on this website, they have some really cool stuff and their prices are reasonable too!.
Grow Goddess
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I apologize for the hijacking, but this is something I would like to share.
I couldn't help it. I just keep spending money on this stuff. I have a good excuse though. I am doing it for our community
for the greater good.
After blowing some money and ordering some standard 510 batteries that do have adjustable voltage, well, that just was not enough after having seen a King Kong looking vaporizer. So I picked one out and this one is huge! You can check the resistance of whatever device you choose to vape from right on the unit. Then you can adjust your volts and wattage to what will work best for the vaping device you attach.
As soon as I get it and try it out, I will surely report back.
I spent the entire day researching. There are far more products out there available for e-ciggs than for mj. It seems to be worthwhile to make the cannabis oil work in an e-cigg vaporizer. There are so many different attachments for me to try. Like dual coil elements. Can't wait!
[video=youtube;n7DnXw0MqTs]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n7DnXw0MqTs[/video]
I couldn't help it. I just keep spending money on this stuff. I have a good excuse though. I am doing it for our community
for the greater good. After blowing some money and ordering some standard 510 batteries that do have adjustable voltage, well, that just was not enough after having seen a King Kong looking vaporizer. So I picked one out and this one is huge! You can check the resistance of whatever device you choose to vape from right on the unit. Then you can adjust your volts and wattage to what will work best for the vaping device you attach.
As soon as I get it and try it out, I will surely report back.
I spent the entire day researching. There are far more products out there available for e-ciggs than for mj. It seems to be worthwhile to make the cannabis oil work in an e-cigg vaporizer. There are so many different attachments for me to try. Like dual coil elements. Can't wait!
[video=youtube;n7DnXw0MqTs]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n7DnXw0MqTs[/video]
Kanivers
Active Member
I don't know why anyone in their right mind would want to vape RSO. RSO is really just for consumption not smoking or vaping. Its super green and full of bitter chlorophyl. Btw check out the cooking with cannibis section in the forum. There is a whole post about this called cooking an e cig recipe. Adding alcohol to VG does not turn it into PG by the way. They are two completely different substances. One is the byproduct of petroleum (PG) the other is organic. They are both alcohol sugars and humectants. VG is thicker and more viscous. PG is less. PG is a better solute then VG so it's easier and faster to infuse it. VG gives a smoother hit with more vaper but less flavor. PG gives more throat hit but more flavor. That's why e gigs are usually PG because it gives a harsher hit and better flavor which is what smokers are looking for. People usually blend the two to get the best of both worlds. VG also gums up the wick/ tank systems quicker so people cut it with PG. I hope this helps people make a better decision.
Skoad
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I have multiple ecig mods. Egos are nice starter batteries but dont provide the power I wanted. Ive been vaping for years now. My favorite mod is the Provari by far. Its costly but definitely the most reliable and durable mod Ive got. Most mods wont survive being dropped on concrete multiple times but my Provari barely has a scratch after a dozen or so concrete drops.
If I can ever find a good step by step guide for making THC ejuice with only an 1/8th ill give it a go. Cant really afford to waste much more than that for something I may not get to work. If I can get it to work though, ive got dozens of ecig tanks I can test it on.
- Also, if anyone wants to try out the ecig mod posted above (iTaste SVD) you can get it cheapest at FastTechdotCom, but will take a good 7-14 days to get it(I ordered an SVD from there along with several other mods).
If I can ever find a good step by step guide for making THC ejuice with only an 1/8th ill give it a go. Cant really afford to waste much more than that for something I may not get to work. If I can get it to work though, ive got dozens of ecig tanks I can test it on.
- Also, if anyone wants to try out the ecig mod posted above (iTaste SVD) you can get it cheapest at FastTechdotCom, but will take a good 7-14 days to get it(I ordered an SVD from there along with several other mods).
Guzias1
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hey growgoddess! your info has been excellent, thank you!
nowww. its been about a month. whats the the latest and greatest? thanks!
motorcity57
New Member
I am going to try and make some THC juice for my e-cig, I've been on the e-cig about 4 years now, I already mix my own nic juice. I only vape menthol, so I get my own menthol crystals, I use 50/50, VG, PG. I get the strongest unflavored nic juice on the market. it is 10% nicotine, I also add some tobacco flavor, reminds me of a Newport, my old brand. maybe this post will get me some tips for my brew, looks to have gone dead for awhile. great place to find vendors for vape mods or anything else vape try the e-cig forum http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/, I get most my stuff from myfreedomsmokes.
Guzias1
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SOOOOOOOOO, i am still interested here :]
i've come down to this off grow goddess:
20-30% PG with the rest being RSO (concentrated oil)
[h=3]fill up my 510 cartomizer, puff away..
ok.. ordered some parts, i reallyyy want to do this! i feel this is the new sneak-a-toke, i likeee the idea of adding flavors/aromas..
Propylene Glycol a colorless, viscous, hygroscopic liquid, C 3 H 8 O, used chiefly as a lubricant, as an antifreeze, as a heat transfer fluid, and as a solvent for fats, oils,
waxes, and resins.[/h]
seems like vegetable glycerin dont cut it..
i've come down to this off grow goddess:
20-30% PG with the rest being RSO (concentrated oil)
[h=3]fill up my 510 cartomizer, puff away..
ok.. ordered some parts, i reallyyy want to do this! i feel this is the new sneak-a-toke, i likeee the idea of adding flavors/aromas..
Propylene Glycol a colorless, viscous, hygroscopic liquid, C 3 H 8 O, used chiefly as a lubricant, as an antifreeze, as a heat transfer fluid, and as a solvent for fats, oils,
waxes, and resins.[/h]
seems like vegetable glycerin dont cut it..
Fadedawg
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Here is the MSDS for vegetable glycerin and propylene glycol. Note the inhalation :
Section 11: Toxicological Information Vegetable glycerrin
Routes of Entry: Absorbed through skin. Eye contact.
Toxicity to Animals:
WARNING: THE LC50 VALUES HEREUNDER ARE ESTIMATED ON THE BASIS OF A 4-HOUR EXPOSURE. Acute oral toxicity (LD50): 4090 mg/kg [Mouse]. Acute dermal toxicity (LD50): 10000 mg/kg [Rabbit]. Acute toxicity of the mist (LC50):>570 mg/m3 1 hours [Rat].
Chronic Effects on Humans: May cause damage to the following organs: kidneys.
Other Toxic Effects on Humans: Slightly hazardous in case of skin contact (irritant), of ingestion, of inhalation.
Special Remarks on Toxicity to Animals:
TDL (rat) - Route: Oral; Dose: 100 mg/kg 1 day prior to mating. TDL (human) - Route: Oral; Dose: 1428 mg/kg
Special Remarks on Chronic Effects on Humans:
Glycerin is transferred across the plancenta in small amounts. May cause adverse reproductive effects based on animal
data (Paternal Effects (Rat): Spermatogenesis (including genetic material, sperm morphology, motility, and count), Testes,
epididymis, sperm duct). May affect genetic material.
Special Remarks on other Toxic Effects on Humans:
Acute Potential Health Effects: Low hazard for normal industrial handling or normal workplace conditions. Skin: May cause skin irritation. May be absorbed through skin
Eyes: May cause eye irritation with stinging, redness, burning sensation, and tearing, but no eye injury. Ingestion: Low hazard. Low toxicity except with very large doses. When large doses are
ingested, it can cause gastrointestinal tract irritation with thirst (dehydration), nausea or vomiting diarrhea. It may also affect behavior/central nervous system/nervous system (central nervous system depression, general anesthetic, headache, dizziness, confusion, insomnia, toxic psychosis, muscle weakness, paralysisconvulsions), urinary system/kidneys(renal failure,p. 5 hemoglobinuria), cardiovascular system (cardiac arrhythmias), liver. It may also cause elevated blood sugar.
Inhalation: Due to low vapor pressure, inhalation of the vapors at room temperature is unlikely. Inhalation of mist may cause respiratory tract irritation.
Chronic Potential Health Effects:
Ingestion: Prolonged or repeated ingestion may affect the blood(hemolysis, changes in white blood cell count), endocrine system (changes in adrenal weight), respiratory system, and may cause kidney
injury.
Section 11: Toxicological Information for Propylene glycol
Routes of Entry: Absorbed through skin. Eye contact.
Toxicity to Animals:
Acute oral toxicity (LD50): 18500 mg/kg [Rabbit]. Acute dermal toxicity (LD50): 20800 mg/kg [Rabbit].
Chronic Effects on Humans: May cause damage to the following organs: central nervous system (CNS).
Other Toxic Effects on Humans:
Hazardous in case of ingestion. Slightly hazardous in case of skin contact (irritant, permeator), of inhalation.
Special Remarks on Toxicity to Animals: Not available.
Special Remarks on Chronic Effects on Humans:
May affect genetic material (mutagenic). May cause adverse reproductive effects and birth defects (teratogenic) based on
animal test data.
Special Remarks on other Toxic Effects on Humans:
Acute Potential Health Effects:
Skin: May cause mild skin irritation. It may be absorbed through the skin and cause systemic
effects similar to those of ingestion.
Eyes: May cause mild eye irritation with some immediate, transitory stinging, lacrimation, blepharospasm, and mild transient conjunctival hyperemia. There is no residual discomfort or injury once it is washed
away.
Inhalation: May cause respiratory tract irritation.
Ingestion: It may cause gastrointestinal tract irritation. It may affect behavior/central nervous system(CNS depression, general anesthetic, convulsions, seizures, somnolence, stupor, muscle contraction or spasticity, coma), brain (changes in surface EEG), metabolism, blood (intravascular hemolysis, white blood cells - decreased neutrophil function), respiration (respiratory stimulation, chronic pulmonary edema, cyanosis), cardiovascular system(hypotension, bradycardia, arrhythmias, cardiac arrest), endocrine system (hypoglycemia), urinary system (kidneys), and liver. Chronic Potential Health Effects: Skin: Prolonged or repeated skin contact may cause allergic contact dermatitis.
Ingestion: Prolonged or repeated ingestion may cause hyperglycemia and may affect behavior/CNS (symptoms similar to that
of acute ingestion).
Inhalation: Prolonged or repeated inhalation may affect behavior/CNS (with symptoms similar to ingestion),
and spleen
Guzias1
Well-Known Member
sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo.
this is terrible news fd! why the hell are soooooooooo many people smoking these e-cigs packed with this?
i wonder if they show warning labels about this on their products.
fd, why why whyyyy do you get me down with this info! thank you though...
what do you suggest is better to create a juice to fill these e-cigs with?
thanks again!
this is terrible news fd! why the hell are soooooooooo many people smoking these e-cigs packed with this?
i wonder if they show warning labels about this on their products.
fd, why why whyyyy do you get me down with this info! thank you though...
what do you suggest is better to create a juice to fill these e-cigs with?
thanks again!
Found this thread through Google and made an account just now - i have recently bought the eGo C Twist (510) and have been smoking the VG oils with nicotine so I can cut back on smoking tobacco. I bought a second cartridge for other purposes because I would really love to vape cannabis oil or shatter with my pen. In your opinion, which is the best 510 cart for use with either cannabis oil or shatter or both? Also, how do you fill shatter into the tank? Do you mix it with anything? Sorry for the noobie questions lol just very curious and extremely interested in being able to vape cannabis oil on the go (and if I do not have to mix PG or VG with cannabis oil then even better!)
Fadedawg
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I get the shatter on a wire and heat the wire until it drops off into the cart.
Grow Goddess
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You are right, when it comes to low quality or long soaked in the solvent.
RSO can be used for more than just eating when made correctly. Did you not see the picture I posted? Green?
Here, let me post another picture for you. Looks very vaporizable to me. Just a simple frozen extract, no extra filtering. The solvent used is 99% isopropyl alcohol. For me, what I don't understand is why someone would prefer to smoke joints over vaporizing quality oil.
Edit: These are the techniques I use to get my oil to come out like this.
https://www.rollitup.org/blogs/blog30912-how-i-make-rso-concentrated.html
Grow Goddess
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I am so sick and tired and worn out from defending the truth and valid information!
The propylene glycol you reference is used in anti freeze. The Propylene Glycol I speak of, well, most of us are consuming it every day, whether you know it or not. The propylene glycol I speak of is Propylene Glycol USP medical/food grade. It is used in all kinds of food processing and medicines. I liter of pop contains more propylene glycol USP than what I use in my vaporizer weekly or monthly depending upon how much I use my vape. If you are so worried about it, you should be campaigning against the food and beverage industries.
It is used as a main ingredient in e-cigarette oils. It is safer than aspirin. I only purchase my mixing products from e-cigarette oil companies. I make sure that it is Propylene Glycol USP. Sometimes it is also labeled as kosher.
Here is a link to where you can get all of the proper tools. (my apologies for where this information is stored). I will be vaporizing oil for the rest of my life and ingesting RSO as well. http://michiganmedicalmarijuana.org/blog/532/entry-1026-my-experience-with-portable-vaporizers-pen-vaporizers-for-concentrated-cannabis-oil-and-e-cigarette-oil/#commentsStart
I assure you of this, smoking joints is far more dangerous for your body than vaporizing the oil I make and use.
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Peace and God bless. RSO is the way to go!
People have replied back to me using my methods in vaping, they tried quizo hash and BHO. They said it worked great. When I get a chance, I will do the quizo hash test myself. It may prove to be more enjoyable than my current RSO mixture.
Grow Goddess
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Yes, it is terrible. It is terrible that people will provide false information that over 11,000 have currently read.
How do you guys feel? Just think, you are discouraging people from doing things safer and healthier. I call this anti-progress. I have invested thousands of dollars and hundreds of hours into this. I wonder how much time was really put into the false information that was posted? thirty seconds? I would feel awful for attempting to debunk quality information.
Why the e-cigarettes don't put warning labels on them? They do! The warning is not about the PG USP or VG. Anyway, are you suggesting for people to take toxic pills from the pharmas to quit smoking? Keep in mind, those are known to cause serious side effects. Is that what you would consider to be safe? Or do you recommend to people to continue smoking radiated toxic crap tobacco? E-Cigarettes are probably the safest way for many to quit smoking. I am sure e-cigarettes have saved many lives. It is possible due to the false information, someone chose to not go with e-cigarettes and has possibly died.
Again, you are right, this is very disturbing and it bothers me.
qwizoking
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Lol a quick wash using frozen iso doesn't sound anything like rso.....I believe that's known as qwiso.........just saying
But I guess you can call it or any other hash rso if you wish
Looks pretty good though btw
How did you keep it so runny though It looks like straight goo..
But I guess you can call it or any other hash rso if you wish
Looks pretty good though btw
How did you keep it so runny though It looks like straight goo..
Grow Goddess
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Back to defending the truth. It has become endless. The arrogance and ignorance is just overwhelming. You obviously did not read the information in my link. Did some fairy explain the process to you after I do the frozen extraction? That is the ignorance I am speaking of. You just assume and calculate in your own head as to how I finish my process. Then laugh about it? It is not funny to me.
Qwiso hash is not decarbed. RSO is decarbed. Let me post the link again. This is how I make RSO. Well, at least that is my old style. I don't know if you all could handle my new process with pictures. https://www.rollitup.org/blogs/blog30912-how-i-make-rso-concentrated.html
One piece from my journal entry link "After all of the solvent has been filtered, I move to the rice cooker and follow Rick's directions from there."
Are you saying that qwiso hash is cooked down in a rice cooker? I don't think so.... If you would have taken the time and looked beyond my pictures in the previous post, you would have seen the link to my entire process. Yes, I did add the link in my edit, but that was placed well before your post against me.
How do I make the oil look the way it does? There are three technical answers to that question. That is a good question I must say. Two of the answers are very important and very medicinal. I fear to supply the answers here on this thread. I don't want to leave good quality information to have somebody falsely go against it then leave more bad information for 11,000 other people to read. I guess you could just say, experience.....
I apologize that I just don't have the patience to deal with these types of BS. I am feeling very irritated and am just not in the mood to play games. I can usually handle things with tact and compassion.
I guess I just have nothing more to add to this thread. I will have to stick to my blogs and journals for a while. Open forums have become very frustrating for me.