Using Molasses

Moldy

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This thread is wrong.

This is not what molasses does in soil at all. Plants do not take up sugars and trap them, where on earth did you get this from? Molasses feeds microbial life in your soil and the microbial life will then break down the crap in your soil and there poop is N P K and micro nutrients that your plant then absorbs. All the molasses does is feed the microbial life. The mis information on the internet is profound. This site will teach you about molasses.

http://www.thesoilguy.com/SG/Molasses
Yeah, I only use molasses when I make tea along with worm casting, kelp meal, fish emulsion, etc. to feed the microbes. When I did try molasses I locked out my nitrogen uptake and got harsh smoke.
 

kristoffolese

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Yeah, I only use molasses when I make tea along with worm casting, kelp meal, fish emulsion, etc. to feed the microbes. When I did try molasses I locked out my nitrogen uptake and got harsh smoke.
I am not convinced molasses was the culprit. Molasses has always HELPED stabilize & keep my ph in range... nute lockout occurs when ph is out of whack & molasses has always helped me prevent this, 21 years +, now.
 

kristoffolese

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I am not convinced molasses was the culprit. Molasses has always HELPED stabilize & keep my ph in range... nute lockout occurs when ph is out of whack & molasses has always helped me prevent this, 21 years +, now.
And I use molasses throughout - even in veg (at smaller, much smaller concentrations). Bigger the rootsystem, the more I give. Up until 2 weeks before harvest... any other molasses vets out there?
 
i used molasses for many years after reading the 3lb thread. you mention to get the no sulfur molasses but i've always read that sulfur (not too much) is needed for the plants. i don't recall any probs using plain old blackstrap.

why do you recommend getting the non sulfur stuff? i ordered some blackstrap this morning with sulfur. talk about timing. lol

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i caught up on the great sulfur/non-sulfur debate. pretty funny.

we always ask questions but often conclude that we kinda think we know but we really don't know. when more states lossen the laws (please lord, i don't ask much...) controlled studies will answer many mysteries. i remember when nobody was talking about looking at trichomes to determine when to harvest (maybe some nut on a tiny board). we always picked according to the percentage of hairs that were red. progress! :)

the 3little birds recommended the stuff with sulfur and that's good enough for me. i used the brer rabbit blackstrap with sulfur for about 10 years. there was no sulfur/no sulfur debate back then.

i love marijuana debates! such creative people. :)
Sulfured molasses is not ideal because it cuts down on oxygen to the plants roots, more oxygen to root zone is best.
 

Moldy

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I am not convinced molasses was the culprit. Molasses has always HELPED stabilize & keep my ph in range... nute lockout occurs when ph is out of whack & molasses has always helped me prevent this, 21 years +, now.
Yeah, maybe not. The lock out was probably happening before the molasses was added but not positive. Just stating possible causes, not sure as the variables in each person's grow are huge.
 

kristoffolese

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Sulfured molasses is not ideal because it cuts down on oxygen to the plants roots, more oxygen to root zone is best.
Non-sulfured molasses is easy to find, dont worry. Its kinda like iodized salt - dif than pure salt, but still super easy to find.
In reality, the molasses does nothing for your plants DIRECTLY. Plants dont eat the molasses, they dont break it down and eat the sugar - NONE of that. What it does, is it feeds the much needed microbes in the soil, so their populations continue to hold & increase, as we need them to grow as our plant's ROOTS grow. Just dont use it within 2 weeks of harvest. No more than 1tsp/gallon. I highly recommend using Mykos at sowing & transplant, too, in addition to whatever nute line you run. Its pointless to be buying & feeding all kinds of nutes, if the plant's roots cant actually ABSORB them, & uptake them into the plant's cells. This is what all the microbial life in the soil is for. To help your plants uptake the nutes that are present. Hope this helps someone :)
 
yes this is an old post...but i am new, and when i read things like "it works you can really taste the molasses" I begin do doubt the validity of some of these posts...WTF cmon man, if i put 2 buds grown properly you could tell me which one was given a sugar in the water??? I keep a jar of organics my rasta friend grows just to do a test with my herb when people start the organic debate. And guess what 71/100 had no fkn clue 29 guessed and if those 29 15 were right.
 

Stink Bug

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yes this is an old post...but i am new, and when i read things like "it works you can really taste the molasses" I begin do doubt the validity of some of these posts...WTF cmon man, if i put 2 buds grown properly you could tell me which one was given a sugar in the water??? I keep a jar of organics my rasta friend grows just to do a test with my herb when people start the organic debate. And guess what 71/100 had no fkn clue 29 guessed and if those 29 15 were right.
And those 15/29 that guessed right just got lucky. They had what a 50/50 chance of being right. You can enhance a plants naturals flavors and aromas with a proper diet and environment. But you cannot alter them with a so called bottled flavoring additive.
 
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