ChesusRice
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Maybe with a second job and that extra 25 bucks a day this employee can get a education
USA move closer to equality in wages
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ttystikk
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Maybe our country can subsidize more universities- and fewer prisons and fighter planes so everyone can make the investment in their education. They, their employers, the nation and the economy would benefit, making the practice a no brainer.
But because Bernie said it, it must be socialist. Can't have that!
Lucky Luke
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Cause no other country has free education, free healthcare and a low prison population...........*.cough cough*..Australia and nearly every 1st world country..
But then their min wage is livable..just..but livable....
MrRoboto
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Nowhere have you addressed the choices people make.
Are you trying to tell me there are masses of driven individuals stuck in minimum wage positions?
You act like all hourly employees are minimum wage.
I stand by my statement that minimum wage is entry level. Highschool kids and fuck ups. Neither of which should get in the way of my dollar menu.
Are you trying to tell me there are masses of driven individuals stuck in minimum wage positions?
You act like all hourly employees are minimum wage.
I stand by my statement that minimum wage is entry level. Highschool kids and fuck ups. Neither of which should get in the way of my dollar menu.
Lucky Luke
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Im not sure whom your addressing but yes to the first and some are happy doing unskilled jobs- good for them they need to get done.
no i didnt to the third
and yes and no its not to the fourth.
why would it to the last one..it hasnt anywhere else in the world We have a dollar menu in Australia where the kid behind the counter earns around $12 (under 18 yrs old) an hr. Over 18 then their on around $15 plus penalty rates ( time and 1/2 on Saturday and double time on Sunday for example). We are having the penalty rates argument here ATM and Sunday rates may and should go on the Saturday rates IMO.
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ttystikk
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You watch too much Faux Spews and you obviously detest doing your homework, even when it's as simple as using Google. You've failed to account for most people working for minimum or even less. Even in your industry; 'wait staff'.
You're stuck in a narrow, selfish, meanspirited state of mind. I pity you.
IF YOU HIRE SOMEONE, PAY THEM A LIVING WAGE.
Why is it so hard for you to accept that as the only reasonable course of action? Are ya just too selfish?
Padawanbater2
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Raising the minimum wage will benefit millions of Americans not making the minimum now
Look up the underemployment numbers for people with college degrees
The bottom line is that if you work full time, you should be paid a living wage. If you think that's unacceptable, you need to clearly explain why. Some of the biggest corporations in America pay their employees a wage low enough that requires them to utilize social welfare programs that come out of taxpayers pockets. Why should American taxpayers be subsidizing the labor of giant corporations because they don't want to pay their own employees a living wage?
Padawanbater2
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Not to mention more than 50% of Americans make less than $30,000 per year. A $15.00 minimum wage comes out to about $31,000 per year. That's more than 160 million people. Meanwhile, 1 family, the Walton family, owns more wealth than 50% of Americans.
ChesusRice
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I'm a cnc machinist.
Wages Have stagnated for 10 years or are going down.
Want to call me a fuck up?
Lucky Luke
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No..people who dont want a livable hrly rate are pro welfare..cause people on the current rates have to be on it.
MrRoboto
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You make nowhere near minimum wage.
ttystikk
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They'll PAY TAXES on those wages, so how is that a burden?
Dude, turn off Swill O'Reilly and try to learn something.
ttystikk
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How would you know?
Padawanbater2
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So it's OK for a multinational corporation to pay their employees essentially slave wages because I'm "pro-welfare" and "it's just a small amount of the tax burden" anyway..
So you have an obvious double standard for who you consider to be "welfare queens". You're only against it when poor people get it, but when rich people get tax breaks or government handouts paid for by taxpayers, then that's OK..
This is why your side is losing this argument and the wages will rise whether you like it or not. People see right through the glaring hypocrisy in your position, they see the massive amounts of wealth and income inequality (not seen since the Great Depression), and they're tired of begging for scraps.
StonyLaRoux
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I looked at the whole picture. 2nd job empty. SS payouts are made so long as gross pay is below a certain level. May not be the case, but If you ever had to Hire someone ( a management position), you might look at this, as it was presented, to see life style, work habits, so on.
How long has he been there? The financials would make sense if he was there for less than 6 months (minimum amount of time before investing in training or consideration for promotions.)
I don't care who you vote for so long as you don't work for me. I don't care what Bernie says, I don't care what Hilary promises or blames, I don't care what Trump does because I will protect what I have. I will also make sure I take care of those around me.
Want to make the nation better? Get rid of McD's and don't treat it like a career. Its a layover job or a first job. A career in fast food, not the Owner of one or the manager, is a shit life. Plain and simple. Some people get stuck because they get comfortable. Others are just incompetent. Some don't care either way so long as they have TV, PS/XBOX, Porn, or beer. I like those things too but they are rewards for a hard days work.
How about an internship that leads to a company paying for education. I'm paying my own way right now because I didn't pay
enough attention in high school. I will have names for all the jobs I performed through our my CAREER and can tell an employer all about it. Or, now, I have the experience, education, and capability to open and run my own business.
Not trying to bash on the guy but his picture and financials warrant concern as he looks to be an adult and made the decision to associate his image with that information. Bad choice as the internet saves everything (assuming he is a real person not just a model)
Lets not invest in Shit enterprises and not blame ourselves. Service industry is just that, and industry to serve those with disposable income. Our service jobs are ones that the people marketed to are just unwilling or too lazy to perform themselves.
We are already suckling the teat because if I don't do it someone else will. Day laborers have their own union; nobody gets on the truck for less than $120 a day less take a beating by the others. They do this so they won't undercut each other to the point of working for $50 a day. So far a bunch of guys that don't speak English and probably not born in this country have been able to find jobs that pay more than McD's and will go farther in the next year because they have less than the guy pictured or what "grandma and grandpa".
If you can read this, thank a teacher.
If its in English, thank a soldier.
Das Boot
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ttystikk
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...while doing all the work.
America will not tolerate an aristocratic class for long. Share the wealth or the rich will swing from trees.
MrRoboto
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Do you?
ChesusRice
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It's starting to get that way.
ttystikk
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Now you're just babbling nonsense.
Pay a living wage or do the job yourself. Stop trying to screw the less fortunate into it for next to nothing, then call them stupid for doing it.