US policy is 'not to defend Canada' in any N Korea attack

ttystikk · Sep 19, 2017

Grandpapy said:
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I'm not sure where IBM's over Japan fall into play. But they weren't airborne last year. just sayin.

It looks like NK is afraid of Tillerson getting their offshore oil via petro china or roseneft.
Wasn't he instrumental in the sale of "Naval Oil Reserve"?

PetroChina is this week unloading the first Chinese purchase of crude oil from U.S. strategic petroleum reserves at a port in eastern China, according to shipping data and two industry sources.

I feel much safer, now that Putin's in the white house too.

I don't know where or how you keep coming up with these fascinatingly timely and relevant tidbits of data, but I sincerely hope you keep doing it!

st0wandgrow · Sep 19, 2017

jonsnow399 said:
The North didn't have the tech last year. Putins in the White House? Good I feel safer too,now there's no chance of war with Russia! lol

Chomsky makes a fair point...

How can we piss and moan about Russia interfering in our election when we have been doing this very same thing for decades?

Pot meet kettle

Justin-case · Sep 19, 2017

st0wandgrow said:
Chomsky makes a fair point...

How can we piss and moan about Russia interfering in our election when we have been doing this very same thing for decades?

Pot meet kettle

This went beyond meddling, more of an attempted coup\act of war, bl0wavote.
What dictators did we install, and then expect something diplomatically return?

st0wandgrow · Sep 19, 2017

Justin-case said:
This went beyond meddling, more of an attempted coup\act of war, bl0wavote.
What dictators did we install, and then expect something diplomatically return?

This is clearly over your head Justin. Do some research. We've fucked with more elections, and militarily over thrown more governments than the rest of the world combined.

Russia, Ukraine, Iraq, Iran, Libya...the list goes on.

I don't like that Russia interfered in our election either. Maybe we should stop doing the same if we want to have any sort of moral high ground to stand on and wag our finger from.

Give your head a good shake Justin.

Justin-case · Sep 19, 2017

@schuylaar , bl0wavote thinks you should stop whining about rigged elections.

Silly little girl thought she'd have a voice in the new left, hahahha!

st0wandgrow · Sep 19, 2017

Justin-case said:
I've read about the eighty instances where we helped candidates around the world, but that still doesn't answer my question, asshole. What democracy have we installed an authoritarian and expected something in return, or installed our own puppet to attack a democracy? Total false equivalentcy. Remember when all the Bernie babies whined about an unfair primary( hehehe)?

What does that matter? You're trying to frame this to suit your feeble argument. You sound like Dick Cheney ffs!

What we've done has been worse.

Yeah, we totally didn't install the Shah in Iran. Nope. We didn't bomb the shit out of Iraq to overthrow their leader either. Nope. We didn't kill hundreds of thousands of innocent people there either. We're totally not arming radical jihadists right now trying to overthrow Assad. We're totally not propping up a brutal, corrupt government in Saudi Arabia in exchange for their oil either. Nah, couldn't be.

Again, give that melon of yours a good shake and see if it helps...

:dunce:

Justin-case · Sep 19, 2017

st0wandgrow said:
What does that matter? You're trying to frame this to suit your feeble argument. You sound like Dick Cheney ffs!

What we've done has been worse.

Yeah, we totally didn't install the Shah in Iran. Nope. We didn't bomb the shit out of Iraq to overthrow their leader either. Nope. We didn't kill hundreds of thousands of innocent people there either. We're totally not arming radical jihadists right now trying to overthrow Assad. We're totally not propping up a brutal, corrupt government in Saudi Arabia in exchange for their oil either. Nah, couldn't be.

Again, give that melon of yours a good shake and see if it helps...

Funny, how you new progressives have the hardest time answering the simplest questions, pada made my ignore list last night for the same reason. Just like dogger says, "like a dog returning to its own vomit". You're third party mentality has allowed the last two war mongering Republican presidents, ya dumb jock.

Justin-case · Sep 19, 2017

st0wandgrow said:
What does that matter? You're trying to frame this to suit your feeble argument. You sound like Dick Cheney ffs!

What we've done has been worse.

Yeah, we totally didn't install the Shah in Iran. Nope. We didn't bomb the shit out of Iraq to overthrow their leader either. Nope. We didn't kill hundreds of thousands of innocent people there either. We're totally not arming radical jihadists right now trying to overthrow Assad. We're totally not propping up a brutal, corrupt government in Saudi Arabia in exchange for their oil either. Nah, couldn't be.

Again, give that melon of yours a good shake and see if it helps...

Ps: you sound like Timothy McVeigh.

st0wandgrow · Sep 19, 2017

Justin-case said:
Funny, how you new progressives have the hardest time answering the simplest questions, pada made my ignore list last night for the same reason. Just like dogger says, "like a dog returning to its own vomit". You're third party mentality has allowed the last two war mongering Republican presidents, ya dumb jock.

Read up Justin. You just may realize how utterly misinformed you are...

https://www.google.com/amp/m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_57983b85e4b02d5d5ed382bd/amp

Justin-case · Sep 19, 2017

st0wandgrow said:
Read up Justin. You just may realize how utterly misinformed you are...

https://www.google.com/amp/m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_57983b85e4b02d5d5ed382bd/amp

I get it. The new left thinks we shouldn't denounce anything if we were guilty of it in the past.

st0wandgrow · Sep 19, 2017

Justin-case said:
Ps: you sound like Timothy McVeigh.

Because I look at the facts, and don't have blind patriotism? Seriously, you sound like the dumb-dumb redneck conservatives that used to proclaim "if you don't support the war, you don't support the troops"!

Did you say that too Justin?

Murica!

:dunce:

st0wandgrow · Sep 19, 2017

Justin-case said:
I get it. The new left thinks we shouldn't denounce anything if we were guilty of it in the past.

You don't get anything dumb-dumb. Not an original thought in that pea brain of yours.

Of course we should denounce foreign countries meddling in our election. We should probably stop doing the same damn thing if we want to be taken seriously though.

You disagree with that?

PCXV · Sep 19, 2017

goldberg71b said:
And it can be dismantled easily with the next liberal idiot that gets elected to the White House. That's really why liberals prefer it and conservatives want a wall. It can't be removed by the next lib! If the liberals followed and enforced the laws I could agree with this statement. But since liberals prefer selective law enforce we can't count on that type of system being maintained and enforced. Sorry but trusting liberals to follow laws after obama just isn't happening. So no matter the cost it's well spent money. Thank your idol obama for destroying the faith we have in liberals following laws if you don't like the cost. You liberals don't care how we feel when conservatives are illegally targeted by our government. So believe me I don't care how much the cost of a wall bothers any of you.

Once again if obama didn't divide the country, destroy our trust, target groups with the IRS, push unconstitutional healthcare that wasn't a TAX until he figured out its the only way to make it constitutional during Supreme Court case or sign unconstitutional executive orders making daca status maybe we would have trust. But your boy destroyed it! So focus your anger with Obama for destroy trust and division.

Fucking retard. Check Obama's deportation stats and net Mexican/Latin American immigration to the US during his presidency. Or did Fox/Breitbart omit that just like they omit anything that discredits their narrative?

whitebb2727 · Sep 19, 2017

goldberg71b said:
And it can be dismantled easily with the next liberal idiot that gets elected to the White House. That's really why liberals prefer it and conservatives want a wall. It can't be removed by the next lib! If the liberals followed and enforced the laws I could agree with this statement. But since liberals prefer selective law enforce we can't count on that type of system being maintained and enforced. Sorry but trusting liberals to follow laws after obama just isn't happening. So no matter the cost it's well spent money. Thank your idol obama for destroying the faith we have in liberals following laws if you don't like the cost. You liberals don't care how we feel when conservatives are illegally targeted by our government. So believe me I don't care how much the cost of a wall bothers any of you.

Once again if obama didn't divide the country, destroy our trust, target groups with the IRS, push unconstitutional healthcare that wasn't a TAX until he figured out its the only way to make it constitutional during Supreme Court case or sign unconstitutional executive orders making daca status maybe we would have trust. But your boy destroyed it! So focus your anger with Obama for destroy trust and division.

Ok. Same with a wall. If someone ignores to enforce the law they simply cross over or under the wall.

This isn't rocket science. The problem isn't a wall.

Take 9/11 for example. Most, if not all, those guys were here on legal visas.

The problem with people wanting to attack America is much deeper than a wall.

You wanting to deport kids going to college and being a productive part of our society is because they are different. It speaks volumes about your character.

I get it though. I'm a red neck. Probably one of the biggest hicks on this site.

You have to understand that the majority of people that come to this country are just like you and I. They just want a better life and to take care of their family.

The few that do want to attack us are not going to be stopped by a wall. We've gotten past the point where a simple wall works.

schuylaar · Sep 19, 2017

whitebb2727 said:
Ok. Same with a wall. If someone ignores to enforce the law they simply cross over or under the wall.

This isn't rocket science. The problem isn't a wall.

Take 9/11 for example. Most, if not all, those guys were here on legal visas.

The problem with people wanting to attack America is much deeper than a wall.

You wanting to deport kids going to college and being a productive part of our society is because they are different. It speaks volumes about your character.

I get it though. I'm a red neck. Probably one of the biggest hicks on this site.

You have to understand that the majority of people that come to this country are just like you and I. They just want a better life and to take care of their family.

The few that do want to attack us are not going to be stopped by a wall. We've gotten past the point where a simple wall works.

tell this to trump^^^^^

I heard trump say today (again) that this is about not wanting low income migration and freedom caucus believes (hard liners) same. Pretty fucking judgmental if you ask me.

Were the Irish, Polish and everyone else who came here of wealth? I think not. Some came here with the clothing on their backs.

When the Drumpfs came over from Germany, were they wealthy or did they make their wealth here?

The Natives against the Irish..the fight is tribal in nature..deep within culture. This will never end so we need to learn how to deal with. Overly PC is not the solution either. Recognition of and enhancement within cultures will be part of the answer. Not to lump us all together but celebration of our differences. I can't be black, black can't be white, nor should we be.

whitebb2727 · Sep 19, 2017

schuylaar said:
tell this to trump^^^^^

I heard trump say today (again) that this is about not wanting low income migration and freedom caucus believes (hard liners) same. Pretty fucking judgmental if you ask me.

Were the Irish, Polish and everyone else who came here of wealth? I think not. Some came here with the clothing on their backs.

When the Drumpfs came over from Germany, were they wealthy or did they make their wealth here?

The Natives against the Irish..the fight is tribal in nature..deep within culture. This will never end so we need to learn how to deal with. Overly PC is not the solution either.

Immigrants built this country.

I thought that's what we stood for. The American dream.

I guess not.

whitebb2727 · Sep 19, 2017

When I speak out against a wall it comes from experience.

I had a top secret clearance in the military. I can't say what I did but I worked on very advanced radar systems. The type that would cook your organs if you walked in front of it while it was on. I mean cook you in seconds.

That type tech can be used to watch the border and track people.

Grandpapy · Sep 19, 2017

whitebb2727 said:
When I speak out against a wall it comes from experience.

I had a top secret clearance in the military. I can't say what I did but I worked on very advanced radar systems. The type that would cook your organs if you walked in front of it while it was on. I mean cook you in seconds.

That type tech can be used to watch the border and track people.

whitebb2727 · Sep 19, 2017

Grandpapy said:

That tech is based on the tech I worked on. I did some work at Moody AFB.

The tech I worked on is better than AWAX. It could watch big areas and direct troops, tanks, etc.

Very powerful systems.

They also make one that will make people crap themselves. Lol.

Abiqua · Sep 19, 2017

whitebb2727 said:
That tech is based on the tech I worked on. I did some work at Moody AFB.

The tech I worked on as better than AWAX. It could watch big areas and direct troops, tanks, etc.

Very powerful systems.

They also make one that will make people crap themselves. Lol.

Did you got to Gordon? I used to fix those.....

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