Unflushed coco flowers

About half my plant stripped down the stock..... it's outdoors do its a fair amount of flower... it's barely hanging on and has only had a day of flushing. Branched might survive but since it's only hanging on by outer bark I don't see its up taking much of anything.... any ideas what I should do? Might throw it in the hash trash pile just worried it might come out in the finished product.... any idea would be appreciated.... thanks

Dry it, cure it, smoke it.

Was hitting it pretty hard before they broke low chance of black ash and harsh smoke with a good cure?

Depends on several things in my opinion, moisture content being one of them. Its not all about a flush. IMO.

If you wouldn't mind would you go into detail? It's a substantial amount of flower..... trying to salvage what I can.

Also are you in coco....? What's your typical flush length?

Amount/strength of nutrients during growth. Type of nutrients. Media for growth and root development. Water hardness. Maybe most importantly. Dry and cure. Yeah I didn't put flush for a reason. After 16 yrs I'm not convinced that it is always necessary. Perhaps it is a good thing to do, I'm not sure it matters. You don't see tobacco farmers flushing their leaves for cigars....and they always burn to gray ash. Nope, they just cure them forever. I know that is a battleground for many people and I'm not here to debate flushing or not. As I have practiced both flushing and not flushing. In your case though since you have a broken plant.....screw the first reasons and concentrate on the dry and cure. Time and the correct humidity and you'll be fine.

i grow in coco and do not flush. i've tried it both ways and can tell no difference in taste, smell, or color of ash. i think it starves the plant of what it needs to pack on that last burst of trichs

Ok thanks for your input do you drop your ppms near the end?

Depends on what I ride them at. For what is running now, yes I do for additional coloring.

i do cut them back, not really for taste, just seems pointless to feed them heavy 3 or 4 days before chop. the last week to ten days they may just get ph'ed water if they don't look like they need anything, or they may get a light dose of nutes

Right on thanks

Antman15 said:

Depends on what I ride them at. For what is running now, yes I do for additional coloring.

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Purple?




Headed to the backyard.... time for some work

Reds and purples.

Moisture content in the dried product is the main culprit in weed that burns with black ash. If it is not fully dry, it burns black. Plant matter combusts in two stages...the first stage it burns to char, the second stage it burns to white ash...it can only burn to ash if enough oxygen is present, too much moisture = not enough oxygen and your material will stay in the charred state.

Flush it till u see the plant degrading
Keep a close eye tho u never know how long it will last

Lara vanhousen said:

Was hitting it pretty hard before they broke low chance of black ash and harsh smoke with a good cure?

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i run coco/peet blend, and sometimes dont bother flushing and my product always has white ash, if you are not over-fertilizing a flush isnt necessary and a shortened flush shouldn't even be noticeable.

Yea I took some after a 4 day flush.... no differnece in ash. Just seemed like it took a few extra days curing to get the same smoothness for the unflushed.... I was running pretty strong nutes.

where did you get a picture of lou ferigno in a wig?

I cringe when I see people suggest that a flush doesn't matter. I know I've just opened up a big can of flame-on here but so be it...

I partially agree with Antman15, and partially disagree. I however identifying that he has years of experience. More than me so Im not pretending to know it all, but here is "my" opinion.

If you don't have a choice then absolutely cut, cure, medicate. But just because something burns grey doesn't mean that it is clean. That misinformation can be dangerous when interpreted by the wrong, less experienced growers. Again there's a thousand variables so don't hang me right yet.. That's like saying that because you can't see mold spores on something that they aren't there and the product is safe. Product testing for some is about a pissing contest to see whose THC is higher. For some an intolerance to a pesticide, or an excess of a mineral could have a sever health impact.

Absolutely we have all smoked some shit that burns black and has to be re-lit. That also comes from some strains that have not been cured, that quite possibly aren't dry enough, is premature, or perhaps is a genetic disposition. I've talked to a few people who have experienced outdoor strains that even when finished on time, and cured, don't smoke worth a fuck. Most likely due to someone's experiments in breeding.

I had a full plot of outdoor organic kush that didn't quite finish because of the elevation and latitude we are at here. No chems. No additives. Just straight up compost, and a few organic time released ferts. Again nothing is "100% Organic" but as close as we could get. Anywho, the shit was dried and wouldn't burn worth a fuck. Threw 10+ pounds of it into rubbermaids and voila, with each 2-3 days the shit got better. Infact so much so that after 3 weeks that shit had ash like a cig.

I have also smoked shit that was growing in Promix that burned amazing. Looked great, tasted great, yet had zero flush. These clowns were also banging off PPM's above 1500 up to the very end. Don't try to tell me that because it burned good that the weed was safe.

There is a balance as well. Do I believe in a 2 week flush? not really. But again, it depends on the medium, method, and nutrients. if your only out there feeding them once a week then chances are they are consuming a large portion of the nutes in their system so no need for a huge flush compared to someone whose feeding quad digit PPM's EOD.

opinions are like assholes so they say... I'm no different.

dude, did you have a point? flushing isn't going to remove pesticides on the outside of a plant. it also isn't going to remove any minerals the plant has absorbed. period. the science to support that is on the web, if you insist i'll spend the 30 minutes to post a few links. if people were under or overfeeding a plant that can definitely effect the way it tastes and burns, but no matter how much you flush an overfed plant, you're not going to take any of the excess materials out of that plant. not the way it works, never has been, never will be.
you say you had a crop that wouldn't finish, so you cured it...what does that have to do with flushing?
weed that burns black hasn't been dried and cured properly.
its not a good idea to overfeed...but you can't "fix" is with flushing...all you get is a plant thats been overfed its whole life except for the last two weeks when it could have actually used it