Unconventional Organics

equatorial Farmer said:

My main soil fertilizer is warthog and giraffe shit. Mixed in with red soil. I use Neem oil for getting rid of bugs in the soil and have used apple cider vinegar diluted when dealing with a little mold at seedling stage, due to too much watering.

Click to expand...

WhatDoYouWantFromLife said:

My main soil fertilizer is warthog and giraffe shit. OMG I freaking love that.

Click to expand...

Midwest Weedist said:

I'm curious if anyone can see an issue with this, mixing lab serum with fulvic/humic acids before watering? I like to use fulvic and humic acids as well as lacto b., especially in my smaller planters. But I was curious if there could be any negative reactions between the lacto organisms and the ful/hum acids.

Click to expand...

Midwest Weedist said:

I'm curious if anyone can see an issue with this, mixing lab serum with fulvic/humic acids before watering? I like to use fulvic and humic acids as well as lacto b., especially in my smaller planters. But I was curious if there could be any negative reactions between the lacto organisms and the ful/hum acids.

Click to expand...

DonTesla said:

What ppm do you guys run your fulhum at?
And what size do you consider small containers..

Thanks
Just curious
DT

Click to expand...

Midwest Weedist said:

No idea on the ppm, I eyeball it at roughly half a teaspoon per gallon for mature plants or those that I've fed hum/ful acids to already in increasing amounts. I've used a full teaspoon per half gallon on plants that were bloomed in to small of a container for their veg (five gallon 3 month veg) and had no noticeable negative effects. Though healthy plants / very rich souls will yield odd mutations of fed too much too often ime.
A small planter for me is under 10, with 10g being on the brim of too small. I can pull a lot of weight from a ten gallon with a three month veg and still have a soil that's still able to support the needs of my plant with no premature yellow / leaf drop. But I feed a lot of aloe, coco water, and humic acids and topdress a lot of Grokashi so my experience could possibly be not the typical one.

Click to expand...

DonTesla said:

3 month veg in a 5 gal, wow!
That's like the BlackForrest we ran.
Do you prefer to veg that long?
Instead of more cycles?

And no worries I've jus been wondering about it
I'm not rocking my 450L no till beds quite yet and just wanted to baby these 7 gallon beauties that I went ahead with

Also what's your coco and aloe game like..

Is salicylic acid in live aloe good or bad, I wonder.. and is 200x aloe better despite the live plant being more "natural"

Appreciate your inputs, man

Click to expand...

CrocodileStunter said:

So a couple days ago i topped my veg room and then made a tea out of the leaves and stems. let it sit for 3 days and would give it a good shake everyday. opened it up and it smelled sooo damn bad like i swear i could taste the rottenness. but anyway i was like fuck it and fed it to the plants. yesterday when i checked them they were all perked up and the leaves were pointing up to the light. So i call it a success. cannibalize them mofos haha. but that smell though fish emulsion smells great in comparison. i swear i can still taste that smell hahaha so gross............ i did it because i always top to late and didn't want the fertilizer to go to waste plus i figured it would be soluable since it was already broke down into a useful form. who knows I aint a plant scientist.

Click to expand...

Midwest Weedist said:

Depends on a few variables, mostly my schedule outside the garden. If it was ideal I would be in much larger planters with that long of a veg time. Makes it easier to handle strains that are hungry or finicky about root space. Honestly there's always a slight bit of early yellowing in my five gallons with that long of a veg but I've only seen it affect yield if I'm negligible about watering, dry periods will straight wreck a blooming plant in that small of a planter.

When it comes to aloe I prefer it live just because there are compounds that immediately start to degrade. There may be a beneficial reason to using the dried version in some applications, but I'm not aware of any. I usually keep my aloe and coco ratios at 1:1, in regards to how much of each per gallon.. Depends on how tired I am, how much coconut water I have, and how big my plants are lol. Usually I'll drain two young coconuts which yield anywhere from a half cup to two cups depending on age, blend it up with roughly equal amounts of aloe, then depending on how much I have I'll dilute it at anywhere from a quarter cup of 1:1 coco/aloe per gallon of water all the way up to 1:1 ratio of water: aloe/coco. But that heavy of a feeding is more so wasteful than anything. I only do it that heavy when I have a small amount of soil mass to water and the houseplants aren't thirsty. Nothing has ever shown stress from how heavy I use either, never. Not even when I watered my seedlings with pure aloe/coco and humic acid.

Click to expand...

DonTesla said:

Thanks for the awesome reply!
Where do you buy your coconuts from though, amigo??
Cheers
DT

Click to expand...

Midwest Weedist said:

Depends on a few variables, mostly my schedule outside the garden. If it was ideal I would be in much larger planters with that long of a veg time. Makes it easier to handle strains that are hungry or finicky about root space. Honestly there's always a slight bit of early yellowing in my five gallons with that long of a veg but I've only seen it affect yield if I'm negligible about watering, dry periods will straight wreck a blooming plant in that small of a planter.

When it comes to aloe I prefer it live just because there are compounds that immediately start to degrade. There may be a beneficial reason to using the dried version in some applications, but I'm not aware of any. I usually keep my aloe and coco ratios at 1:1, in regards to how much of each per gallon.. Depends on how tired I am, how much coconut water I have, and how big my plants are lol. Usually I'll drain two young coconuts which yield anywhere from a half cup to two cups depending on age, blend it up with roughly equal amounts of aloe, then depending on how much I have I'll dilute it at anywhere from a quarter cup of 1:1 coco/aloe per gallon of water all the way up to 1:1 ratio of water: aloe/coco. But that heavy of a feeding is more so wasteful than anything. I only do it that heavy when I have a small amount of soil mass to water and the houseplants aren't thirsty. Nothing has ever shown stress from how heavy I use either, never. Not even when I watered my seedlings with pure aloe/coco and humic acid.

Click to expand...

DonTesla said:

Thanks for the awesome reply!
Where do you buy your coconuts from though, amigo??
Cheers
DT

Click to expand...

DonBrennon said:

Big up Gill & Pat, the following plant had a root drench of 2L filtered water, 2 tsp fermented fruit juice, 1 tsp cal/phos, 1 tsp fermented clover SST all made using their technique's. Not a single bottled product was used. They've not seen fulvic, silica, seaweed extract, aloe or coconut water for over 2 weeks and I've never seen a plant pray like that before, some of the leaves are almost vertical lol
View attachment 3621489 View attachment 3621491 View attachment 3621492 View attachment 3621494

Click to expand...

DonBrennon said:

Big up Gill & Pat, the following plant had a root drench of 2L filtered water, 2 tsp fermented fruit juice, 1 tsp cal/phos, 1 tsp fermented clover SST all made using their technique's. Not a single bottled product was used. They've not seen fulvic, silica, seaweed extract, aloe or coconut water for over 2 weeks and I've never seen a plant pray like that before, some of the leaves are almost vertical lol
View attachment 3621489 View attachment 3621491 View attachment 3621492 View attachment 3621494

Click to expand...

DonTesla said:

Shit son,
nice work! @DonBrennon

What's the fermented fruit juice... Got a link to recipe??

Click to expand...