Unconventional Organics

cannakis

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Is your tester calibrated properly?

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yes it is... i believe... it didnt have a calibration method besides how you trst it each time it kind of calibrates it... i will look one more time but im pretty sure its right....

oh wait that was for the liquid tester... Yes i Did calibrate it.

i was thinking it was my soil tester... but that one is right too because i tested my first batch of soil and itsaid about10+... this electric tester says the soil is 9.9.

but yes my liquid tester is calibrated.
 

Nullis

Moderator
Very odd that rain water would be so alkaline... unless your roof is like made of limestone or something (I suppose that is possible). Depending on how you are collecting the water, what it flows over before being collected (roofing materials).

Rain water straight form the sky tends to be slightly acidic, if not due to smog than due to CO2 dissolving in the water (forming carbonic acid).
 

cannakis

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Very odd that rain water would be so alkaline... unless your roof is like made of limestone or something (I suppose that is possible). Depending on how you are collecting the water, what it flows over before being collected (roofing materials).

Rain water straight form the sky tends to be slightly acidic, if not due to smog than due to CO2 dissolving in the water (forming carbonic acid).
yeah i collect it by putting five gallon buckets under the drip line on my house, no gutters. it does sit out fir a while...
 

DonTesla

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WORD TO THOSE LOOKING TO SAVE SOME $$$

CloneX verses Straight Aloe Vera

Enough said.... Clone on left CloneX produced, clones on right Aloe Vera straight from the plant!
Same size clones, same soil base, light, water, temp and humidity. Even the shorter Aloe Clones to the right have more branch nodes compared to the cloneX on the left.
I had several cloneX clones this one was best of them all yet lagging behind the Aloe clones.
Not to mention all the Aloe Vera clones were topped days ago and I am still waiting on this clonex to develop more branch nodes so I can top her.

You can see easily the growth number of branch nodes, clearly no need to over pay for CloneX when you can grow your own Aloe Vera as a rooting gel.

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A close view CloneX on Left Aloe Vera on right

DankSwag
Seeing is believing. I will never again use CloneX if I have Aloe Vera on hand!
Yo Dank,
Sweet comparison!
When did you put those babies into their cup and when you apply the aloe? I got a clone in aerated RO with 3 short roots she's the first to root, I was gonna dip it in a bit of myco-frass water before putting her in some soil but aloe is all natural, too, you gotta love it.
 

DANKSWAG

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Yo Dank,
Sweet comparison!
When did you put those babies into their cup and when you apply the aloe? I got a clone in aerated RO with 3 short roots she's the first to root, I was gonna dip it in a bit of myco-frass water before putting her in some soil but aloe is all natural, too, you gotta love it.
The clones were all processed at same time, I need reference link to post so I can examine and check dates on pics.

Ya never looked backed to using clonex, I've done everything with Aloe expect in my cloner with the mini jets...which I should of looking back but at the time it was to get a natural feel for what the jets would do for rooting the clones.

I just keep growing my Aloe and using the gel and liquid from it works like no other and is all you need to get them off to a good start in a organic worm compost preferably with organic worm compost blend. I add some nice beneficials in microbes and such when transplanting.

DankSwag


****************UPDATE**********************
NO DOME MIST NATURE'S H20
These appear to be 14 days or longer possibly
into rooting... my reason for this my last post 12-18-13
and I'd expect to see this again if I reproduced.
Anyone with some clonex to spare?
 
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Scroga

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Do you cover them with a dome of some sort when. Using the Aloe in soil? Great info mate

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Dave's Not Here

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I have a huge Aloe plant that I've been toting around for almost 10 years now, this thing is getting a trunk like a tree and has numerous pups sprouting off of it, there's hardly even any soil left in the container it has been so abused but it's thriving. I throw it outside in the summer and it goes in a mostly dark basement the rest of the year.

Aloe from what I've read stimulates the plant's immune system and contains numerous micro-nutrients. I've recently been irregularly watering the soil with a teaspoon or so per gallon squeezed out of a piece of leaf and mixed into the water. I haven't seen any magical results but nothing negative either. I haven't tried it on any cuttings.

Here's a great video about how using a kelp foliar spray a week before taking cuttings helps them root faster as well and that kelp in general is great for promoting rooting in clones.


I've used my magical piss on my veggie garden before with fantastic results, I've had some plants that I probably over-fertilized with it growing like some of the videos you see on YouTube of the massive plants. I'm talking 4ft onions and monster tomato plants. I didn't use it on my garden last year and could really notice the difference and haven't found a suitable replacement for it yet. Also the urine seems to help keep the bugs away or make the plants more bug resistant, I had a lot more pest issues last year.

Most of my organic experience is based in outdoor veggie gardening and composting whatever I have on hand which is mainly leaves and grass clippings. What I do is every fall collect all the leaves with my bagging mower, which shreds them up a little and make a large fenced in pile of leaves with some grass and some leftover vegetable matter from the garden. Then I throw a few gallons of urine on the pile, wet it down and throw a tarp over it. (I've also thrown some yeast and sugar water on the pile before too and all sorts of kitchen scraps.) I went out and turned it for the first time on Christmas day and the center of it was smoking it was so hot... it was about 40 degrees outside. Come spring it will be full of earthworms breaking down the leaves and a lot more broken down, which lately I've been using it about halfway broken down in the spring to fill the bottom of new raised beds.

I also brew up some teas in a 5 gallon bucket in the garage once in awhile, mainly with compost from the bottom of the pile and usually a little yeast and sugar water, let it brew for 24 hours and then water the plants with it.

I sometimes use some wood ash and half burnt twigs and sticks from burning branches and brush and work it into the soil.

I get a few containers of coffee grounds here and there and work them into the soil but probably not enough to make a difference. I have numerous large gardens in a large backyard.

This year I mainly plan on incorporating some kelp foliar feeding into my veggie garden, it might be almost as good as urine but I think they would probably be best used together.

I've noticed that outside plants more than anything seem to prefer a nice raised bed over being planted in the ground, even if it's just six inches higher than the ground they love it a lot more. Even if you just mound up the topsoil into a platform that's 6 inches higher than the soil around it they do a lot better.

Does anyone have a cheap source of Azomite? I'd like to start incorporating this also.

My first post, hi everybody!
 

DANKSWAG

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Do you cover them with a dome of some sort when. Using the Aloe in soil? Great info mate

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Actually I used red sole cup with clear solo cup lid as dome with slits for air.
But I misted daily with rain water

DankSwag
 
I'm going to be using roses, green leafy stuff, leafs and stems from past grow, sea shells, coffee grounds, egg shells, sea weed, Epsom salt, pot ash, molasses, urine, and rain water and also fish tank water :)
 

DANKSWAG

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Used plastic clear solo dome, misted daily with rain water.
Suggest taking all pieces of Aloe left after trimming away skin
to produce clear Aloe gel strips to be used in transplanting and
place in water with clone cuttings letting them soak in while
preparing soil container to transplant too. Then take a clone
out and insert bottom of stem lengthwise into the Aloe gel strip.
Seat cutting into soil with a hole created prior place stem with aloe
strip into soil cover, lightly water if soil needs. Mist leaves cover.

The original post with pics appear to be at 14 days or longer possibly
into rooting... my reference for this was my post prior on 12-18-13
and I'd expect to see this again if I reproduced.


DankSwag
 
Maybe not as bizarre but I'm switching my soil grow bow to sog and I plan to still use jobes organics which is chicken meal poop bones blood and feathers and it really smells like it But 2 of the plants look flawless on it the others are at least healthy
 
aloe vera juice????

apple cider vinegar???

anybody use these? and how much should you use???
I used to ph down with braggs unfiltered acv... No good kills microbes... Creates root rot... Use citric acid aka dehydrated lemon juice...not lemons tho i also dont like raw sugars gives me root aphids every time, scary shit reset time... Citric acid is very passive on the microbes
 
How much should I piss in my plants. Should I piss directly into the pots or should I pee into a cup and then mix it with water. I am thinking about the second route because I have trouble stopping midstream so measuring word be tough. What
Fuckin gross yo id never smoke your "weed"
 

grimdro

Member
best 2way to make a soil takes a 6ear or more rot timme ,use a l@arge container that has a lid to block rain no drainhole as that lets out the juices and invites hungry tree roots . fill ut with a basic black dirt add leafs all kitchen scraps egg shells veg trash bones(brwak um first or grind um to make gaint's bread flour also lors of seafood mainly crab crushed up bury any thing u add at least a foot and pack dirt opt fasten it shut wit bungies (airjoles impor5ant or it will explode, to keep out furries add 2 packs oof worms they do the dirty work the key is time . also crab in general makes great fert tho if its nor ur family biz like me id use the scraps. ive used whole spider crab(trash crab) to fert a farm field well at parents house u crush it rot it plug nose wrll lol and sue in topsoil before a rain for out door plants . if you give the stuff time to rot itll be black gold cept dirt not oil,, tho give it a bullion years itll oul up micely time is key. dony
t use this as a base i recomend mix it halff and half witj
h that peat moss,vercumite,perlite mix its at dollar stores
 
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