OldSoul777
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it happens. I have one now that is growing 4 fan leafs from each node.
Uncle Ben's Topping Technique to Get 2 or 4 Main Colas
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Sativied
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Nice.... tricot and whorled phyllotaxy and slender leaflets... I'm jelly.
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OldSoul777
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4 from same node
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Sativied
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Nice, looking very healthy too.
I prefer the tri whorled (main trait I breed for), ideal for topping. Topping after 2 tri nodes creates 6 nicely spaced non-overlapping branches/bud sites/colas. Each successive node is turned 60degrees as is already apparent in @bellcore's tri.
I've grown a lot of whorled phyllotaxy plants over the past year+ and done a lot of research into it (journaled at a more serious forum) and can actually induce the whorling in some of my crosses/lines (all based on a frosty quad male) by topping it or simply bending the main stem a la LST. The trait is as result of a mutated gene that causes a different auxin <-> cytokinin balance and auxin concentrations. Mine however don't start out as a tricot but as normal dicots and then start whorling around the 4th node or even later.
Tricots, those that start out with 3 cotyledons / seed leaves, are not always plants with inheritable whorled phyllotaxy but an inevitable result of being a tricot. This is described by Hofmeister’s rule: an empirical heuristic derived from the observation that new leaf primordia are formed in the largest space between the existing flanks of the older primordia. That's also why that second node of a tri is rotated exactly 60 degrees, and why on a regular decussate each successive node is rotated 90 degrees.
The new primordia, leaves in this case, start at a position where most auxins are accumulated and concentrated, or better said, least are used.
A. alternating (mature cannabis)B. regular opposite decussate
C. (tri) Whorled phyllotaxy (in case of cannabis, other species it's tricussate)
D. Spiral (similar to whorled but alternating, i.e. not all nodes on same level, mature whorled becomes spiral)
Point is, when you top, you heavily influence the same hormone balance and you can get abnormal node placement without actually have a mutant.
"Using a combined pharmacological and genetics approach we demonstrated that regular spacing of organs is controlled by auxin and its transporter PIN1 (Reinhardt 2000, 2003)."
http://www.botany.unibe.ch/deve/research/projects/reinhardt.htm
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OldSoul777
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Thanks for the info! Good stuff! This one didnt start like that but started happening around the third node and seems to only be happening on the adjacent node. Just found out today its a girl! It is just showing preflowers . I guess I will clone it in case its any good. Its nirvana free seeds that came with an order. they grow like crap compared to what you pay for. I will prob get rid of most and put some better clones in their spot.
propertyoftheUS
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So was I right to top it at the quad leaf node? Like I said its the first I've seen of this. The strain is the greatest closet strain ever. Tightest node spacing I've ever seen with absolutely no stretch. My avatar is this strain flowered from clone.
propertyoftheUS
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So was I right to top it at the quad leaf node? Like I said its the first I've seen of this. The strain is the greatest closet strain ever. Tightest node spacing I've ever seen with absolutely no stretch. My avatar is this strain flowered from clone.
Uncle Ben
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Do you mean you have one that has 3 leaves per leafset on its petiole growing from a node?
Uncle Ben
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That's not my method but you can top however you want. Just expect a different response.
bellcore
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Three 'branches' per node...starting from the three seed leaves.
Hello , If this is answered I appologize for not reading all the pages.Last time I topped Uncle Ben's method(wich is the best for me) , instead of 4 coalas, i got 2 or three, and the 4th coalas, was a branch very small...wich didnt develop, My question is: If i get in VEG 3 good coalas and 1 small, can I cut the small coalas ? or just leave it...Thank you
Gratefulgrowin93
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used this method before and tried fim and topping later on, and staking but nothing but this mainlining and scrog seem to give me truly bigger yield better aiflow and light distribution and cleaning lower part of plant where popcorn would form or PM would thrive if I spray ,water too often or overcrowd my little 4 x 4 tent. Love your method Uncle Ben! Much love and respect my brother! 
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