Uncle Ben's Topping Technique to Get 2 or 4 Main Colas

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elkamino

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If you want your nobes to grow side by side, ALWAYS top at an ODD nobe. If you top on even then your nobes will grow like a ladder. one at a time.
I prefer to have them side by side. Some people would rather have the stack to make a longer bud. Although in my opion i would rather have the fater one then the thinner one. thin does dry faster lol
The title is getting colas and topping. I did not read in anyone's thread about the number of the nobe and if its odd or even.
I am a mainline/super cropper and more and that is 101. You want to stagger your colas you top on even and virsersa.
Just after reading 75% of this whole fucking thread lol no one said it. You can design it in so many ways by this rule of thumb.

So dont hate lol just trying to help peoplebongsmilie
Node, not nobe.
 

tom slick

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UB I am brand new to this party and working on my first grow. I read the first 35 pages and realized 2 things.
1. all questions are answered in the first 3 pages
2. this thread has been going strong since 2009!!!
I have to thank you because I have been saved from a nightmare of other training attempts that were way to involved for a fat fingered nube such as myself. this is a KISS method that is perfect for a dude like me. right after this post I am heading to my closet to top my lil personal garden.

My question is what do I do with the tops i cut off? are they thc empty and trash or should they be saved and added to trimmings to create other buzz worthy products (canna butter or hash etc)


Thanx
 

a senile fungus

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UB I am brand new to this party and working on my first grow. I read the first 35 pages and realized 2 things.
1. all questions are answered in the first 3 pages
2. this thread has been going strong since 2009!!!
I have to thank you because I have been saved from a nightmare of other training attempts that were way to involved for a fat fingered nube such as myself. this is a KISS method that is perfect for a dude like me. right after this post I am heading to my closet to top my lil personal garden.

My question is what do I do with the tops i cut off? are they thc empty and trash or should they be saved and added to trimmings to create other buzz worthy products (canna butter or hash etc)


Thanx

Stick them in a cup of water, change water weekly, and after a couple weeks they'll start throwing out roots. Then plant your new plant in medium and repeat!

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tom slick

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Awesome thought!!! unfortunately I have no room or need for perpetual grow. it's for personal medical use so i only want to grow what i need, not gonna clone just yet. And already juggling enough balls just trying to make sure the ones I have are strong as a first time grower. Just didn't want to be wasteful. Thanx though
 

Sativied

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Yes, many photos have been lost. BTW<, send mail to rollie. Same guy.
Yeah... like all my albums and most pics in previous journal... Admin didn't add the albums add on after moving to xenforo.

I don't really care about those but don't get what so hard to edit in a few pics in the first post of a sticky, surely a global mod can edit those in.

@Uncle Ben, pretty sure I've seen you repost the original images, if you can point that one out, or repost, maybe we can simply report the post with a request to a global mod.


Just finished my first zero-canopy-control run. Doing a round of topping next, just for fun, not a real comparison or test. Added advantage is that I got 30+ plants around the same height and same number of branches again (despite not popping them all on the same day). Topped many plants before, but never so low and never with less than 8 branches.

This is roughly 16 hours after topping. Currently 6 branches (actually 8 in pic but chopped the bottom two), will bring it down to 4 probably, not sure how many plants I will flower yet. Probably 9 plants with 4 colas = 36, 6x6 colas fits nicely in a 4x4' space.
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Took a lot of before, during, and after pics, should have a complete set in about 10 weeks.
 

a senile fungus

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Here's a couple pics of plants topped for 4 tops.

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Another.

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Another.

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This one had a rough transplant a few days ago and the first set of leaves yellowed and shriveled so I cut that first set of leaves off.

They were all topped about 24 hours ago and are already noticeably responding.

Edit: not sure why the two repeat pics below???
 

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TheChemist77

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Here's a couple pics of plants topped for 4 tops.

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Another.

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Another.

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This one had a rough transplant a few days ago and the first set of leaves yellowed and shriveled so I cut that first set of leaves off.

They were all topped about 24 hours ago and are already noticeably responding.

Edit: not sure why the two repeat pics below???
how tall was she before the cut? how many nodes were there before? also how much veg time will u give her now(after cut) before flip? im thinking of doing this with a couple of my plants, but need to know after the cut how long she needs to recover befor the flip and end up around 2 and 1/2 or 3 feet tall.. my last batch i topped and lsted, didnt stretch much in flower and that was after a month of veg, almost 3 weeks after topped...i want to top, but also want them to stretch to about 3 feet.. running skunk1,criticalmass, and northern lights..
 

Uncle Ben

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how tall was she before the cut? how many nodes were there before? also how much veg time will u give her now(after cut) before flip? im thinking of doing this with a couple of my plants, but need to know after the cut how long she needs to recover befor the flip and end up around 2 and 1/2 or 3 feet tall.. my last batch i topped and lsted, didnt stretch much in flower and that was after a month of veg, almost 3 weeks after topped...i want to top, but also want them to stretch to about 3 feet.. running skunk1,criticalmass, and northern lights..
No one can answer that, it's your call, your garden. When they get to a certain size and profile you'll know what to do.
 

a senile fungus

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how tall was she before the cut? how many nodes were there before? also how much veg time will u give her now(after cut) before flip?
They ranged from 4 to 8 inches tall before the cut, maybe 4 or 5 individual, opposing nodes, plus the growing tip. I shaved off a couple nodes and put them in water to root them.

Now they will be vegged till they grow big enough to top and take more clones, then they'll probably be put outside when the weather turns.



im thinking of doing this with a couple of my plants, but need to know after the cut how long she needs to recover befor the flip and end up around 2 and 1/2 or 3 feet tall.. my last batch i topped and lsted, didnt stretch much in flower and that was after a month of veg, almost 3 weeks after topped...i want to top, but also want them to stretch to about 3 feet.. running skunk1,criticalmass, and northern lights..
As Uncle Ben said, no one can really tell you when to flip and how long to veg for. Those are things you get a feel for once you've witnessed the full life cycle of the plant a couple of times.

This kind of topping, for 2 or 4 tops, is kind of extreme, IMO, and should be done early, unless you know what you're doing etc The kind of topping where you just snip the growing tips (apical meristems) can really be done whenever. As I said, you'll get a feel for the response you'll witness once you've done it a few times.

So I topped these when they were small and those secondary branches were just starting to show. Now they'll grow nice and symmetrical.

This choice of where/when to top is nice because its done early and one cut and over with.

It sounds like you'll want to veg to around 20" with the critical mass then flip it, I dunno bout the other strains. The more topping and LST, the less stretch. All depending on technique/genetics of course. See that's the thing, it's hard to say one way or the other because the circumstances vary so much.

I'll post pics in a couple days so you can see the difference.

So will Sativied I'm sure.
 

propertyoftheUS

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UB, have you ever tried your thumb at growing indoor or outdoor papaver somniferums? Just wanted to pick your brain a bit about temps, RH, fert strength, lighting schedules....
Thx for any info brotha!
 

Sativied

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Untopped (couple of days younger too)
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Topped
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That last one is probably a male, picked a taller one on purpose as it shows the difference better. I got about 30 more topped at slightly varying age (won't be flowering them all, about half is male and some won't make the selection).

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a senile fungus

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Here's a couple pics of plants topped for 4 tops.

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Another.

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Another.

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This one had a rough transplant a few days ago and the first set of leaves yellowed and shriveled so I cut that first set of leaves off.

They were all topped about 24 hours ago and are already noticeably responding.

Edit: not sure why the two repeat pics below???
Can't remember or be bothered to figure out which is which. Here they are lol.

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All looking great since the topping. 4 new mains growing symmetrically just like I wanted!
 

propertyoftheUS

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Untopped (couple of days younger too)
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Topped
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That last one is probably a male, picked a taller one on purpose as it shows the difference better. I got about 30 more topped at slightly varying age (won't be flowering them all, about half is male and some won't make the selection).

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What kind of light to do you have those babies basking in? Really uniform canopy!!! Kudos bro
 

Sativied

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What kind of light to do you have those babies basking in? Really uniform canopy!!! Kudos bro
Philips 400w HPI-T Plus, which is an MH indeed, and has an output similar to the phillips elite agro 315w cmh bulbs. The 315w is actually a little better. And thanks, quite happy with the uniformity so far. Should be able to remove a few males soon to give them some space during transition.
 

papajohn

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UB can you recommend a A.I that is safe for spraying on edibles to control leaf cutting ants they are defoliating my fruit trees.i normally use fipronil bait with good results,however rainfall is imminent in my area right now.
 
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