Uncle Ben's Topping Technique to Get 2 or 4 Main Colas

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hemphopper

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Since reading Uncle Bens thead a long time ago. I have never looked back. Me recommends this!
The technique that started this thread works. Attaching an image of 3 plants in a 3X3 tent that were topped just above node 2. Picture is 3 weeks into 12 hr photoperiod. 5 gallon smart pots, Roots original soil and General Organics nutrients, 6ooW HPS. - first time I tried those juices and I am impressed.
 

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MuckyDucky

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I've never looked back either. This is a photo of 3 different varieties growing in a 2x4' tent taken around 10/12. The 2 mostly indicas each had 4 strong stemmed beautiful colas and the one that was more sativa shot up 4 long thin colas with a bunch of smaller secondary colas. Trimming was a breeze with the indica doms and I ended up with some high quality stuff.
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The one of the left had all the small colas. The one on the right had one cola accidently broken off.
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I was addressing your off the wall comment about leaving plants natural....trying to make a point which included my precious time of digging up photos of the topping process.

Don't know about your life but my focus is mostly on other plant material. Cannabis is at the bottom of the list at this point in my life. Been there, done that kinda of thing and am moving on to much more challenging hobbies.
Whats your new hobby?
 

primedevine

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Would this technique work well for me Uncle Ben? I am growing in a small grow cabinet (3 foot tall) with led and T5 lighting.
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hemphopper

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Regarding grafting, which it sounds like is part of UB's current horticultural adventures, I remember somewhere reading about somebody grafting hops scions on to cannabis plants or vice versa and trying to get hops plants to produce THC and thus be some kind of stealth grow. I'm old but I do remember reading about that somewhere - is it even possible??
 

Big Perm

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Regarding grafting, which it sounds like is part of UB's current horticultural adventures, I remember somewhere reading about somebody grafting hops scions on to cannabis plants or vice versa and trying to get hops plants to produce THC and thus be some kind of stealth grow. I'm old but I do remember reading about that somewhere - is it even possible??
It is possible to graft a plant onto another plant. However, the grafted plant will not take on any of the characteristics of the plant it is attached to. For example, an orange tree grafted to an apple tree will not produce a new kind of apple/orange hybrid, it will simply produce apples and oranges.

Edit: Just to clarify. The apple/orange tree scenario will not produce a mix of the fruit all over the tree. The part of the tree that is the apple tree will produce apples, the grafted orange branch will produce oranges. The grafted orange branch becomes a parasite on the apple tree, and continues to grow from nutrients & water it gets from the apple tree. If there was any confusion.
 
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Uncle Ben

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It is possible to graft a plant onto another plant. However, the grafted plant will not take on any of the characteristics of the plant it is attached to. For example, an orange tree grafted to an apple tree will not produce a new kind of apple/orange hybrid, it will simply produce apples and oranges.

Edit: Just to clarify. The apple/orange tree scenario will not produce a mix of the fruit all over the tree. The part of the tree that is the apple tree will produce apples, the grafted orange branch will produce oranges. The grafted orange branch becomes a parasite on the apple tree, and continues to grow from nutrients & water it gets from the apple tree. If there was any confusion.
Speaking of apples and oranges, apples and citrus is not compatible since they are in different families. Heck, I tried for 2 years to get 6 different avocado varieties, scions, to take to a complex hybrid and never did succeed. Finally gave up and cut the SOB back to the rootstock for grafting this spring. Sometimes a match just aint gonna happen.

We had a discussion of grafting cannabis on hops. Search option is your friend. :) You graft perennials, not annuals.
 

Big Perm

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Speaking of apples and oranges, apples and citrus is not compatible since they are in different families. Heck, I tried for 2 years to get 6 different avocado varieties, scions, to take to a complex hybrid and never did succeed. Finally gave up and cut the SOB back to the rootstock for grafting this spring. Sometimes a match just aint gonna happen.

We had a discussion of grafting cannabis on hops. Search option is your friend. :) You graft perennials, not annuals.
Good catch, lol. I overlooked it, and should have used an orange/ lemon example.
 

nickelz419

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how well would cutting above first nodes having two colas grow for a week or two then top them getting four?.................................could one just choose any two nodes and trim the rest off and have the same ho moan distribution?
 
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nickelz419

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You can top as many times as you want. You need to understand the output though.
i know you can top as many times. im trying to find out if your tek. is tweaked like i said above would have the same outcome. since im guessing you have done both i would like to know what happened so i can go ahead and try that or just follow you exactly. i am between 1-2 weeks in with 11 seeds.
 

Uncle Ben

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i know you can top as many times. im trying to find out if your tek. is tweaked like i said above would have the same outcome. since im guessing you have done both i would like to know what happened so i can go ahead and try that or just follow you exactly. i am between 1-2 weeks in with 11 seeds.
What exactly are your trying to accomplish?

If you top above the first node and then top above the first node on that output then you might get your 4 colas. And then again you might not.

If you want 4 main colas then top above the 2nd node and be done with it.
 

nickelz419

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What exactly are your trying to accomplish?

If you top above the first node and then top above the first node on that output then you might get your 4 colas. And then again you might not.

If you want 4 main colas then top above the 2nd node and be done with it.
cool... thank you. I have a couple more concerns. to my understanding you veg for about 4-5 weeks under 600 hps the whole way. wasnt sure if you didnt mention or i didnt remember what size pots you use and also how many do you fit under the 600 and what sq. ft. is that? im trying to follow what you do. last questions! probably. thanks again. awsome thread. i even like your smart ass remarks.... i just got done with an experiment of 12-12 from seed vert grow and wasnt too happy with the results... although im sure its cause i had too many plants and couldnt hit the ACTs and what not down pat. also started a second batch like a month after the initial wich made everything even more complicated. so now i just want to deal with less plants so i can take better care of them.
 
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